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Shale gas!

piramidon

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It's official, folks, they came out public with the fracking in RO, only with the cosmetised side of the story:
http://www.capital.ro/detalii-artic...-din-romania-din-ultimii-sase-ani-161710.html
When they presented the news, they said "a reserve of dried gas" which means, they "informed" the people about everything. Plus drawing attention towards extraction rights instead of the danger of fracking.
So, good bye Black Sea and it's all ecosystem, they'll be fucked by Exxon and OMV with the complicity of our "beloved" politicians.
It looks like it's going to be a sea operation afther all, 170km from shore... pretty tough to get there for protesters...
l.e.
Rectification: the drilling operation started since the end of 2011... so we're really fucked!
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Potrivit OMV, Sonda Domino -1 a întâlnit o acumulare de gaze naturale de 70,7 metri, estimările preliminare evaluând acumularea la 42 până la 84 miliarde metri cubi. Lucrările de foraj au demarat la finele lui 2011 şi urmează să se finalizeze.
 

_Ina_

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDZg1mtGIsI
тhis is another film about what they did in America last 20 years with this shit! the people have no any rights on their own land. i think i wont be different here in BG or in Romania. I,m sory about bulgarian subs under but the film is called Split estate if u want to see it or show it to your friends. I,m just showing the beginning of the movie but i think u must see it all. Our politics still lie about what they gonna do,still trying to serve chevron and the other mother fuckers but at least we have that moratorium for now. i think it is time to protest in Romania before they do it,before they get the equipment. U can do something like we made it here. Why they hurry up so much?because everyone soon will understand what they doing allover the world. dont let them in your country or at least make them wait a few years. We are scared about our water too so we will help with everything we can...but we cant stop it in other country....just inform your friends,see what u can do. there is many groups in Facebook too,romanian,bulgarian...We have russian firm too and they didn get their drill rigs away after the moratorium. so it is not about gasprom,or american companies. it is against this killing method fracking and we dont care who will use it,even bulgarian firm. now u will see many lies on TV,just like here:)be ready:)
 

The Revolution

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After the fracture, the water is flowed back to the surface (thats my job), most is accounted for, excluding sand that acts as a propant. You dont want to pull the sand out of the formation allowing it to close up..the frac water is trucked to a waste water treatment facility. I dont know how they do things out there in. bulgaria, but it would be impossible for a fluid to affect your drinking water after it's been pumped 6,000+ feet down ahole. I'm sure there are instances when waste water isn't treated properly, but it's nothing compared to what was going on years ago when the norm was to just pump it down the side of the mountain, or into streams. Like I said before, therr are regulations in place now too keep this from happening

They can use more than 700 toxic substances mixed with so many water that we cant imagine,pump this thing with big pressure down and the true is that nobody can say where are they going,nobody can say what is going to happen,this method cant be controlled and it is proof but nobody listen. then when the pumped fluid goes back(more than 40 000 cubic metters toxic water coming down and back after every fracking. What they do with this toxic substance. they about to get it and save it somewhere. where? every time when they frack this is repeating and repeating. where all that toxic shit is going?! i,m not good with english and thats why i hardly reccomand dont listen your goverment when they say the companies control what they doing,see Gasland and offcourse Crude-the real price of oil. that movie by the way is all about Chevron and what they did to the rain forests. i f u see those movies u will understand what they try do do here:( there will be no water in this areas,u can see that there is no plants were they drilling after one or two years,there is no animals there,nothing. and someone telling me :"it is fine,Chevron is clean companie!everything will be just fine" no,it will be the same as everywhere!
 

_Ina_

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Regulations:) OK why don,t u see this movie from the link first? The people who made this method still cant regulate it in their own country and their own citizens are fucked with cancer but nooo,they wont do the same in Romania.U cant regulate where 40000 tons of WASTED water will go. And u cant pump it all back to the surface,30,40 %chemicals are staing and nobody know where they will go. See very carefully what u call"a waste water treatment facility"haha This is huge pool with toxic water next to the drill rig and this thing cant be safe for humans,no way. Every drill rig has it. tell me where will go 4000 tons of water(for example) for every 1 frack procedure after they use it once? This is for every one frack and the fracks will be thousands. how cant u understand that they dont give a fuck about u and Romania, or Equador, or Bulgaria?! They will get that gas and u wont have even water to drink. As u can see from all those movies u can find in internet(but u didnt watch them of course) they doing the same shit worldwide. Pls just see this one about America where the fracking is born. And still believe that someone will regulate something:(
 

The Revolution

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Ina, the pool of water that sits next to the drilling rig, is not the waste water treatment plant. The water is actually trucked to a location and goes thru a series of treatments to remove the harmful chemicals. I work in the field, so dont tell me to go watch a movie. I know exactly what is going on out there. I dont need to watch some movie, and follow fear mongers to know whats happening. I wont argue with you as I dont know what goes on in bulgaria but only in the USA.
 

_Ina_

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ОК u work in the field,thats why i dont believe u:) Very safe,huh?:)OK just dont come to Europe with your "safe" technology. I have one friend from Pensilvaniq,she told me that the state and the national parks and forest are ruined. But i wont believe her anymore,i,ll believe u haha
 

_Ina_

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http://www.dokumentalni.com/?p=1619 This is about germany,if u can translate from german it will be good to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw1d7zp2vB8
this is how the drill rigs look from the ear. may be it is fake,i dont know;)but i,m sure i dont want to see that here, where we grow our food like i said before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxO8lfWerU0
And this is about Poland. the same allover the world. i saw the same movies about Canada and Australia. I hope i wont see about Bulgaria or Romania soon.
 

_Ina_

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yeah,it is great for us here too:)Great protests u made there! the medias just cant count:) always say"hundreds" instead of "thousands",always say 2000 when they are more than 5:) here i didnt see anything on the news of course:) now the people gonna be more and more on every protest and lets see what your government will do.
 

_Ina_

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Hey,tell me,is it true that Chevron give up there?! If it is great job!!!!! but watch out for the other hyenas:)this summer i,m gonna go to Vama Veche with my family because i always go near the border in Shabla. When i hurt they will search shale gas there it was bad news for my vacation to:)off course this is not the reason to be activist haha but tell me can i go there,what is gonna happen now in Romania? Here we still have some mother....rs who are trying to take down the MORRATORIUM,we are still not safe:(So many hyenas everywhere!
 

exploziv

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as usually, it's just politics:

Chevron’s decision to cease the exploitation of shale gas has an indirect political consequence, as 2012 is an election year in Romania. The company's actions will save the ruling coalition politicians from having to justify their positions, as the ministers who signed the agreement with Chevron are from all parties which form the ruling coalition.

so let's see if this holds till after the elections. and thanks Bulgaria for trying to inform our government about those dangers!
 

_Ina_

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Haha,our government didn,t try to inform us or Romania:)Of course it is just politics but what i care about is to stop that fracking. Here we have that new danger-fracking commission!:( This is commission made mostly from lobbyists and its point is may be to allow the fracking again,we still don,t know:/now there is news they found many gas in Black sea near your border. they saying it is conventional but who knows....May be you hurt that too?So we must keep watch our mother fuckers carefully!:)I suppose yours are the same bitches...
 
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