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Good thread. I'm trying to germ some Hindu Kush now. 3/3 haven't come up. I'm thinking it could be the soil I'm using, so I'm getting a new batch of lightweight potting mix today. I get 100% with Nirvana. I'll report back after I give it a shot with fresh soil. BTW, I got these through the Doc earlier this year. I also have a pack of Jamaican Pearl personally purchased in Amsterdam last year. I'll get on those next after I see how it goes with the Kush.
i bought their Shiva Skunk a couple of years ago-all 15 of them germed with 8 being strong, vigourous females. Don't know about recent changes of ownership but we've not had any negative feedback at the growshop where i help out
I was talking to a guy who works in the seed business over in Holland and he told me most people would be surprised if they knew how uncontrolled most places are and the so called stability issue. My sensi N.L. were complete crap. But I have nothing to prove that they were actually sensi seeds. Unless you are buying directly from them then there is no way to prove it's there seeds. Something tells me there are counterfeit seeds out there.
Wonder of wonders; one of my three Hindu Kush seeds has popped and has quite the tap root already. 33% germ rate so far. Maybe the other ones will pop now. Looks like they need a good week to germ!
Just recieved their afghan #1, haven't ordered off them in a good while-never had any grief with 'em. But now you farmers have got me a wee bit concerned.
I wasn't planning on starting these beans until next year, but I may start them a little earlier and see what I find- I'll let you all know
I got their NL and outa 15 only 3/4 germed. Always heard good things about 'em but i'll stick with other seed companies that I haven't had germ probs with and if notified they'll do something about it. When I notified SS they told me I wasn't suppose to be growing in the US so I was S.O.L.
Just a reflection on the germ rate issue... When a seed refuses to germinate, do not ask yourself what the fuck is wrong with the seed, ask yourself what you can do to help it germ. Just because you've used a proven germination method before doesn't mean you will always have success with it. A good grower will adapt his technique to the situation given. Poor germination can be because of many things, such as levels of hormones inside the seeds, age and health of the motherplant, etc. A fresh seed often have a softer seed pod and germ easy, but will be less resistant to tough handling. In nature, seeds often have to live through frost and fire, so they need a sturdy pod. An older seed will have a tougher seed pod, the hormones within will change and set themselves on deep sleep mode. It will need more time to germ. In this time and age when everything needs to be fast and easy, unexperienced growers often give up on a seed that hasn't germed within a two week period, concidering it bad or dead. But know that an old Cannabis seed can take up to five weeks to germinate, perhaps even longer. I learned it the hard way many years ago, when I found that some seeds I had given up on weeks before had actually germed (that's why I never use the paper towel method for germing, but cotton wads. Cotton retains the moisture better, has better porosity and airing qualities than paper and therefore does not attract fungi as easily).
Low germination rate could mean damaged or old seed, but was it badly handled by the breeder or the mail service, and did the breeder put out old seeds or was it the seed bank that sat on them for too long?
If you think about it, a breeder that dishes out low-priced seeds will sell more and have a better turnover. The seeds will be fresh and germ easy.
A breeder that sells his genetics dearly will sell less, seeds have a bigger chance to lie around for a while. They will be stored, and in general stored cold, which will - as I said - have an effect on the germination time.
In the end, what preferable? Good genetics with low germination rate, or bad genetics with high germination rate?
I'm not giving you the answer, just something to think about.
I've noticed big differences at times and this could help explain the situations.
on another note..
I think reefermanseeds makes some good stuff IMO but had a shitty time with Cherry Bomb.. sure enough when I asked for a refund it was admitted that a whole batch was bad. The refund was offered but I needed to order more to send the new ones with. In the end I would buy again... but haven't from them because they wasted my time and money. If they would of just re sent the real deal they would be a richer operation by thousands.
I guess I feel we all should become better and understand what to do with tough to germ seeds..
but if the premier seed bank of the world has expensive strains that don't sell as fast, shouldn't they also consider things that lesser banks wouldn't. Like born on dates like beer.. on there uber pimp packaging that they updated. or numbering of batches like serious seeds. Maybe the new packaging is to help stop counterfeits of their seed? Has anyone had trouble with a newly packaged sensi seed pack?
I think rosy has a great point but I think if you are paying 150 bucks for 15 seeds. They should be fresh , prepared and then stored to sell in a way that keeps there seeds ready to sprout right now. my .02
Just germed three packs of new sensi packaging:Black Domina 30%;hash plant 0%, G13XHASHPLANT 100%.On another note, Rez SDIBL 100%, Big Budda Cheese 100%, Serious White Russian 100%, DJ Short Blueberry 100%.I still have yet to germ Sensi's Super Skunk.The aforementioned Sensi seeds wre given two weeks if needed, none popped after 6 days, all the others Rez et all were in the ground in less than 36 hrs.All seeds were purchased and germed in the last 30 days.Who knows but I've a few seedlings to take care of, tonight Ace's Bangi Haze goes in......Winter is the time for me..PEACE!!!!MUCHA LUCHA!!!!
I've heard quite a bit about these kind of responses; also responses like "we don't want your fucking $75!"... right now I'm just not willing to take this type of risk!
2/3 Hindu Kushes sprouted now. Rosy, you were right, the seed hull was extremely hard. I squeezed off one size and I found a nice, healthy tap root trying to get out. Looks like it takes 7-10 days for these Hindu Kushes to get started.
I'll give the next batch more time before I start digging around in the pots. Lost one of the three seeds somewhere in the peat. I might have had 100% germination! I'm pretty sure these seeds are just plain old. I checked my records and I got 'em at Seedboo last year. I've had em for a year. I wonder how long Sensi and the Boutique had 'em before I got 'em?
Anyone else got any input? I planted two more seeds from the Hindu Kush. If I get two plants out of the 2 seeds, then I'll consider the germination rate to be 100%.
A while back I asked about Hashplant and got strong recomendations towards Sensi - and several glowing reports of Mr Nice. (G13 X Hashplant)
Not one ill word - so now I'm waiting and hoping for delivery - doing what good expectant parents do - reading up - -and ,, awwwww crap.
$280 + + fpr 2 packs of beans.
I need to see some serious pop-age going on.
I learned my lessons with half asses wana be breeders early on. - customers need to be able to rely on the representations of breeders and suppliers. Top dollar genitics should damn well perform as such.
I will adjust my methods accordingly - maaybe touch the seed shells to some sandpaper and wait some extra time. I'll check back with a report in a couple weeks. Beans are due in next week.
I checked stock with Gypsie, befor I sent payment, - He was out of Mr. Nice - it has been restocked now. I'm guessing the Hashplant is,,,,, aged?
zero percent germ rate with white label sensi star out of pack of ten!! same technique I had 100 percent germ rate with paradise sensi star 10 pack. I germed both packs same time same way. Figure that out...