mountain_goat
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well put!
i dont mind spending $150 bucks for a pack if its something i really really want.....then clone city baby!!!
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Seed Prices Out of control?
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well put!
i dont mind spending $150 bucks for a pack if its something i really really want.....then clone city baby!!!
SKAGITMAGIC
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I've given this thread some serious thought, about 10 minutes,and here's my personal take on the price of seeds, I bought in 2008 10 seeds from planet wax, (sweet little babe with fans leaves for pasties on there home page).Anyway 10 white widow seeds for a hundred american and they threw in 5 Mazar Freebies,I'm now still growing from this seed stock, and i've put away 50 seeds from 3 different grows,thats 150, I only pollinate 1 branch off of the best looking girl.I also clone them, Now i'm doing the same thing with a BLZ x super silver Haze. I'm just a hobbiest, I fish also, I've spent Thousands of dollars on this hobby, boats motors etc. I've only got a couple of grand invested in all my MJ stuff put together. i call my smoke fishermans helper, anyway i'm starting to ramble, so my point is,Look to yourself instead of the breeders, with a little gardning smarts, you only have to do it once in a while, its a small investment if you actually cultivate it rather than just grow it. According to my sister-in-law, its alot cheaper than her pub tab, she told me cocktails were 5 bucks a piece, more someplaces,
it just takes reaserch to come up with a viable pack of seeds.
first all the plants that are all the rage began as somones bagseed at one point so you too can find some majic beans and begin stabilizing them and come up with some killer herb this sight has everything you need to know. it takes time so make sure you enjoy what your doing otherwise dont bother like karma says hes still trying to make a living off of it.
and if you desire to buy a pack then their are good choices and bad ones out there ,you can pay 100+ for serious seeds afghani or 25 for gypsys and get comparable products just shop around and use some due dilligence. dont forget the free pack you receive with your order by the good graces of this community.
first all the plants that are all the rage began as somones bagseed at one point so you too can find some majic beans and begin stabilizing them and come up with some killer herb this sight has everything you need to know. it takes time so make sure you enjoy what your doing otherwise dont bother like karma says hes still trying to make a living off of it.
and if you desire to buy a pack then their are good choices and bad ones out there ,you can pay 100+ for serious seeds afghani or 25 for gypsys and get comparable products just shop around and use some due dilligence. dont forget the free pack you receive with your order by the good graces of this community.
you got to pay to play
spunion
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I realize the actual breeding process is more complicated, but once they have a strain they like established, don't the breeders literally just grow males (outdoor) to get their seeds?
And what is with the only getting $50 out of $100? Ya'll are getting ripped off hard by the boo and bay if that is the case, HARD.
And what is with the only getting $50 out of $100? Ya'll are getting ripped off hard by the boo and bay if that is the case, HARD.
when you provide bulk product to a retailer you do so at a wholesale price. the retailer then marks them up to the retail price for the consumer. basic sales and marketing.
basic business stuff
All you cats defending the breeders and all the laborous work involved would shit if ya saw where they breed!!Fuck,over 3/4 of the seed sellers here are breeding in rooms and closets!!!Less space or work than half us growers have!!
Cut the nonsense,its ALL about money!!Like everything else in the world!!!
Cut the nonsense,its ALL about money!!Like everything else in the world!!!
Boy a lot of folk seem to want to bag the breeders for the high prices , ,but take a look at karma genetics post , to see where 50% of the seed price goes ...
I dont see anyone mention much about that ,, so where does the other 50% go ,, come on guys do a little maths ...
I dont see anyone mention much about that ,, so where does the other 50% go ,, come on guys do a little maths ...
For me, being unable to work because of my medical condition, seed prices are way too high to buy them. Let's calculate, government aid check is 600€, rent for my room is 500€, that leaves 100€ for food and everything else per month. There's absolutely no way to buy any quality medical strain seeds.
People are not bitching about the insane prices of some kinds of alcohol. Shit,cigarette prices are nasty these days yet people pay...STILL! Good genetics take time to create and the breeder that does such should be rewarded and line his pockets shall he see fit. Those bitching about high seed prices....get a job. If you have a job get a better one. Not only is growing/breeding costly..its stressful. Like supermanlives stated..you gotta pay to play
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but you need to understand that world is much bigger place than usa, cannada and holland, there are people in various countries that need the best high they can get, desperately, devastated by life, poverty, sickness, scared, brain washed, ... who will never encounter that high which they desire and need, many reasons some don't know of its existence, some cannot buy it anywhere, some tried it and lost it forever, some cannot grow it nor buy it, some are sick and some are mentally troubled and poor, some are seeking the light.
I once knew one poor troubled mind, who loved cannabis with all his might, every day to be alive he needed to get high, but all he had was bad indica delight. He had many wounds in his head and needed healing or he would die. But when he would have grass he smoked her like his last, in need to get high he rolled fat joints and lighted them one by one. And he couldn't get high, cause stoned he was. One mysterious night wanting to get high he got so much stoned that he died.
cost of the seeds should be related to the economical power of growers country and him personal
seeds should be free for people in pain and terminal diseases
I once knew one poor troubled mind, who loved cannabis with all his might, every day to be alive he needed to get high, but all he had was bad indica delight. He had many wounds in his head and needed healing or he would die. But when he would have grass he smoked her like his last, in need to get high he rolled fat joints and lighted them one by one. And he couldn't get high, cause stoned he was. One mysterious night wanting to get high he got so much stoned that he died.
cost of the seeds should be related to the economical power of growers country and him personal
seeds should be free for people in pain and terminal diseases
im pretty sure the right letter to the right breeder would see you not have to pay for your seed , i havent seen a single breeder that wouldnt support the sick .. as long as its genuine , youll find none have a problem helping you out man ...
spunion
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100% markup definitely isn't standard, but I realize they aren't Wal-Mart either. It seems like seed sites could be ran by a few people operating in a home office, doesn't seem fair they would make more than the people doing actual work...and its the consumers who pay.
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people are confusing the seed distribution game with other normal businesses such as wal-mart, food retailers, etc. there is one MAJOR difference between other businesses and the lucrative seed business: LEGALITY.
i personally feel that seed prices are too high because of the CULTURE and legality surrounding marijuana - most seed resellers make GOOD money, bet that. like i said, i highly doubt GN or Dr. C or other distributors are living in a studio apartment wondering where their next meal is going to come from.
breeders know that many people sell weed they grow, so they take advantage of it. it's about the money, not the cause like Rojo said...it's a difficult situation due to rising prices of everything but at the same time $250 for 10 seeds is fucking retarded. what happens if 5 don't even germinate under ideal conditions? you're fucked. i've seen distributors have gallon ziplock bags just stuffed with cannabis seeds for ONE strain and they distribute dozens of them....
it's all a touchy situation but i feel that due to the way the economy is going and how the currencies around the world are failing, breeders and distributors should be slashing prices - 25, 50% off. it would stimulate sales, encourage more people to grow and allow those with limited funding/those who don't sell on the black market to obtain elite strains for a reasonable price.
i personally feel that seed prices are too high because of the CULTURE and legality surrounding marijuana - most seed resellers make GOOD money, bet that. like i said, i highly doubt GN or Dr. C or other distributors are living in a studio apartment wondering where their next meal is going to come from.
breeders know that many people sell weed they grow, so they take advantage of it. it's about the money, not the cause like Rojo said...it's a difficult situation due to rising prices of everything but at the same time $250 for 10 seeds is fucking retarded. what happens if 5 don't even germinate under ideal conditions? you're fucked. i've seen distributors have gallon ziplock bags just stuffed with cannabis seeds for ONE strain and they distribute dozens of them....
it's all a touchy situation but i feel that due to the way the economy is going and how the currencies around the world are failing, breeders and distributors should be slashing prices - 25, 50% off. it would stimulate sales, encourage more people to grow and allow those with limited funding/those who don't sell on the black market to obtain elite strains for a reasonable price.
it is illegal so why pay so much for seed, we have to pay through the nose, take a risk and maybe get away with it. were is the logic in high prices, if anything it should cheap to make the risk less...
anyways don't support the hype market,
I will pay for AK47 or Kali Mist, since they have awards up the ying yang
but paying for two names that are crossed, with zero awards... think about it
only way to get reasonable prices is to educate the public that they are simply BUYING HYPE
anyways don't support the hype market,
I will pay for AK47 or Kali Mist, since they have awards up the ying yang
but paying for two names that are crossed, with zero awards... think about it
only way to get reasonable prices is to educate the public that they are simply BUYING HYPE
Karma's 50%+/- is a best case scenario I assure you. About 30 cents on the dollar is extremely common, more like 20 after misc expences.
Then what does an education in my field cost, one that would bring you to an acceptable level? A kazzilian hours at best. Then how many decades did you hump up and down the hill and around the planet chasing cannabinoid profiles etc?
I don't think anybody really expects you guys to pay for all that, I surely don't, but get off your asses and do it all, then get back to me about inputs.
Gets fairly tiring to see some of you guys accidentally seeding your crop and thinking this somehow gives you a handle on the cost of breeding.
Then what does an education in my field cost, one that would bring you to an acceptable level? A kazzilian hours at best. Then how many decades did you hump up and down the hill and around the planet chasing cannabinoid profiles etc?
I don't think anybody really expects you guys to pay for all that, I surely don't, but get off your asses and do it all, then get back to me about inputs.
Gets fairly tiring to see some of you guys accidentally seeding your crop and thinking this somehow gives you a handle on the cost of breeding.
WOW if i could get paid to do all that I would do it for cheap
I have never seen a breeder go out of business they retire with cash... lol
I will pay for awards, the rest is hype
I really get tired when breeders act like they are broke, tell us your gross number last year and we have an open debate, otherwise it's bs to say this or that...
I have never seen a breeder go out of business they retire with cash... lol
I will pay for awards, the rest is hype
I really get tired when breeders act like they are broke, tell us your gross number last year and we have an open debate, otherwise it's bs to say this or that...
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