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Seed depot closing

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Peacefrog

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First off, I would like to thank the mods for letting this thread persist. It has been very enlightening.

I was drawn to TSD by the presence of Eskobar and BOG and that they took credit cards. I didn't know anything about JB's history with this site. I did get a sketchy vibe sometimes (especially after they lost credit card processing) but I always got what I ordered. They did screw up 3 out of 4 orders (which they did make right but still) as opposed to no issues with the handful of other seed banks I have ordered from. When JB announced that he was going to be out of touch for a while because of surgery it did have the feel of a guy getting ready to disappear.

I think the Esko strains I ordered were legit because of the packaging. I have some serious doubts about some Pisces strains I ordered that came in little baggies with handwritten labels on paper inside the bag. The BOG strains I ordered came in the same type of baggies but they at least had printed labels.

I do feel for the breeders that got screwed over by this guy but I can't help think that most of them helped perpetuate the lies by not speaking up. It was a tough spot for them to be in - I do get that. I've been strung along by sociopaths that owed me money before unfortunately.

Another strange thing that hasn't been mentioned is that at one point in the last few months JB started a thread on the TSD forums talking about moving his business to the USA because of the changing legal climate here and how tough it was getting to do business in Europe. He was trying to rally support for the cause but the vast majority of people told him he was crazy and after a while the thread just disappeared. I remember thinking that he should be worried about even traveling to the US because the feds had to be at least aware of his business. And then not long after that Gypsy got detained. With hindsight I would guess that this move to the US was just setting up his next con but maybe after he saw what happened to Gypsy he didn't even want to try.

After all this crazy business among the various seed banks I am quite happy to have a rather substantial seed collection in my possession already and it is going to be a long while if ever before I ever dabble in the market again.

Anyway that's my experience with TSD and I can't say anybody is better for reading this but I was in a sharing mood.
 

CannaVenture

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I didnt see this coming either. Im not gonna say how much im owed but we arent talking about just a few grand. Sucks but Ive cut my losses. I sincerely Hope customers were taking better care of than the vendors. Usually its the customers that get the raw end of the deal. Maybe its different this time. Hope so.
 

CannaVenture

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.... And to add to it. Honestly, from a vendor point of view, TSD isnt the only "forum bank" that operates in that way... IC is easily the most professionally run forum bank. By far....not even a close second.
 

Scottish Research

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No DISPUTE here! The guy is a CON MAN!

I was just making a personal observation based on my observation of TSD.

I do my research you know?

Anyways, if I knew what you know to be true then of course I could not have made the observation that I did.

Respect,

R.Fortune
 

siftedunity

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I went on there rarely but I remember seeing some of those 6 seed packs of feminized banana kush going for over $300 a pop recently. He was probably making a grand minimum off 20 seeds.
 
@peacefrog my Pisces seeds from there came in a Baggie with a sticker on it but it wasn't handwritten, it was a logo and the strain name, I ordered them in May so I'm worried about them now as well
 

Harry Gypsna

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RetroGrow

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I never even heard of the Seed Depot until this thread. I don't know why folks go to those other sites, which are crap compared to this one. Apparently lot's of seedy characters in the seed business.....:biggrin:
 

Peacefrog

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@peacefrog my Pisces seeds from there came in a Baggie with a sticker on it but it wasn't handwritten, it was a logo and the strain name, I ordered them in May so I'm worried about them now as well

Yeah I got some Pisces SSH Afghan freebies that were labeled like what you describe but the ones I am talking were on an order I placed in November that was delayed for a month because they didn't have stock of the CGS strains I had ordered and JB wasn't around to order more. They had already processed my credit card and I was getting a bad vibe so I just told the support dude to send me whatever was in stock. That shipment showed up in my mailbox finally in late December. I consider myself marginally lucky to have the closure of receiving the order. The Pisces strains are supposed to be fems and I popped one of each in spite of my suspicions. For all I know the support guy did his job and filled the order from a bulk supply and just didn't know how to run the label printer so he wrote out the labels. JB was long gone at that point and he was probably already giving up on that next paycheck. I'll know in a few weeks if I at least got some chicks out of the deal - they all did sprout. If the fems have balls then I'll know I was had.

Man I feel dirty just telling the rest of that story. I knew that last order was maybe rolling the dice one too many times but once they had my money I just wanted to make sure I got something out of it. Such is the world we live in ...
 
I'm hoping that the Uberdawgs I got from there are real deal since I ordered them so long ago before this all came to the light, I figure he probably would sell the real stock but then when it runs out, fill it with whatever he had around
 

Steele Savage

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---Quote (Originally by Steele)---Just following
up... Hadn't heard
back from you, regarding last to
pm's 2 or so weeks ago... Have you
shipped out yet? Hoping that
signature confirmation was added.*

Thanks,
Steele
---End Quote---Hi Steele,

I hope you are doing well and
enjoying your weekend. I just
wanted to check in and see if the
package has arrived.

To be honest, I am a bit nervous
with this option as we have 'lost'
packages like this in the past. I
would like to ask if we can
investigate other payment methods
for future transactions. Do you
have a bank account I can wire to
that is not connected to you
personally?

Another option would be for you to
open a Pay Pal account and then
simply email me a Pay Pal invoice
which I can then pay. Do you have
Pay Pal?

- John
***************


* Edited for security reasons.


Vengence is the Lords.... Unfortunately for J'b' not everyone is walking with Christ....
Steele
 

coxnox

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I never even heard of the Seed Depot until this thread. I don't know why folks go to those other sites, which are crap compared to this one. Apparently lot's of seedy characters in the seed business.....:biggrin:

how do you know if you never buy to them ? :biggrin: funny comment !!

this place is like everywhere else, they have there problem too... how much money ordering taked by postman or other peoples last year ??
 

Hold Your Fire

Finding my way back home
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I never even heard of the Seed Depot until this thread. I don't know why folks go to those other sites, which are crap compared to this one. Apparently lot's of seedy characters in the seed business.....:biggrin:

Not everyone is comfortable sending cash or a blank m.o. through a corrupt mail system, and hoping, for the best.
 

ECG_207

New member
damn shame about tsd it was nice seeing older ic members there.

Steele Nice to see you back over to these parts.

NEG
 
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