Scott Family Farms 2023 releases . . .

[ojd]

There plenty of room for other people in this game , I been in it for over 20 years.

I seen guys like you talk $1 a seed start up seed co's because thinking they can sell to normal people at $1 a seed and make any money , and ZERO survive.

Only way to make money like that is bulk , 100,000 seeds at 50 cent is what you will get if yours incredible and that can work for surw, otherwise 20-30 cent is the going rate


Regular or Feminized , same price for bulk

 

[Golden Tree]

From selling your seeds ? , yeah I bet you do

And begging for sales , I don't think so , I'm 1 of the only seedbanks who supply's all seeds myself, no distributor so yes I need to stay active for sure.


Where your seed sales we can look at ? , with all your wisdom ?
Man I do very well for a 1 man band , who else does what I do , breeding, every single seed with my own 2 hands , and marketed to the world with my own 2 hands.

Connoisseur genetics is known by everyone, I've been followed by the biggest seed companies in the game , all with my own 2 hands , and no cheque book or lapdances needed to give like 99% in this game

I was waiting for the ol OJD rant!

 

[Golden Tree]

I was waiting for the ol OJD rant!

Legend

 

[ojd]

I was waiting for the ol OJD rant!

I see you maha friend, explains it , does he offer seeds for $1 , no , because no company does apart from some hobby, and hobby you should be giving them for free like I did for years

 

[Golden Tree]

Man you talk alot of breeze , shows you know nothing about the seed game at all.

Nothing at all

 

[ojd]

Nothing at all

Show us your $1 seed sales then ?

Or anyone of your boys who sell for $1 , ZERO sell for $1

Practice watch you preach , I'm sure people want your $1 seeds

 

[Dime]

You can either tap the mainstream market or sell to the niche market if your product can justify it,just like buying a ford vs buying a lexus. Making it legal made it almost worthless,same with product.

 

[ojd]

You can either tap the mainstream market or sell to the niche market if your product can justify it,just like buying a ford vs buying a lexus. Making it legal made it almost worthless,same with product.

I do both

Normal packs to customers and 10k seeds and up wholesale.

Anyway this reeferman thread , head to @Golden Tree for any $1 seed purchases

 

[MrKushman247]

For sure the seeds from that drop are untested...I Grew out 3 packs of pink 2.0 from that failed drop. Worst seeds I ever bought. Zero gas , zero pink kush phenos... all of it was fruity hay In the end...conplete with herms , auto flowering and weak tiny king phenos ... was a complete waste of time..

plus all the problems for delivery..the 1st send never got sent period. I had to bitch for 3 weeks straight to get them to send it out. Literally had 3 people add themselves to my email inquiries. His daughter who is really clueless and rude, Charles himself and Dan who they blamed everything on. I sent my money to Dan he got it immediately thru etransfer.
It was quite an ordeal dealing with these self entitled jack asses. Once they get your money they act like they are doing you a favor sending out the damm seeds you paid for.... never again I tell ya.

Looking at the prices on that site you would be insane to pay those prices.

I'd never order another seed from Charles ever again. Was trying to support the guy. ftom delivery to growing them out, it was a super headache. Big mistake

End of the day, don't trust seed guys that come out of the blue trying to drop seeds then disappear for another few years til the heat dies down. especially with his bad reputation which I'd have to say is completely earned. Keep your money and go somewhere else where they appreciate you

 

[Dime]

I support anyone trying to make a living,seed prices are what the customer will pay..If you can make a larger profit margin that's great,you will spend it and contribute to the economy,it's a free market. My take is most offerings out there are just reshuffled and renamed strains that lead back to what was available and ends up diluted. Ornamentals with catchy names seems to be what the market likes.. Most people are loyal to their wallets. Even if it sucks if they get it cheap enough or better yet near free,they consider it a good trade off. I don't judge until I have purchased a product . I've smoked mainstream weed and it's almost always the same,no staying power and nothing distiguishes it. Preservation is imperative.If you go to overgrow people are frothing to give seeds away just for the thankyou or posting a pic,that's just how it is.

 

[ojd]

I support anyone trying to make a living,seed prices are what the customer will pay..If you can make a larger profit margin that's great,you will spend it and contribute to the economy,it's a free market. My take is most offerings out there are just reshuffled and renamed strains that lead back to what was available and ends up diluted. Ornamentals with catchy names seems to be what the market likes.. Most people are loyal to their wallets. Even if it sucks if they get it cheap enough or better yet near free,they consider it a good trade off. I don't judge until I have purchased a product . I've smoked mainstream weed and it's almost always the same,no staying power and nothing distiguishes it. Preservation is imperative.If you go to overgrow people are frothing to give seeds away just for the thankyou or posting a pic,that's just how it is.

Most of the large companies in Europe/USA all buy of the same mass producers that's why alot Is the same these days.


Again about getting free seeds from members etc , yes that's great and how we all started, giving out free seeds for years, but after years then it becomes a business instead of your spare tent and you have to charge money , thats how any business starts and has to evolve to.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

I don't get the hard on some guys here are having for OJD..... he's good people and always availlable and approachable by growers.
Everything I have grown so far from the connoisseur label has been excellent , some of it down right killer.
I get people having things to say about high priced seeds but 100 bucks a pack is not "high priced" by any stretch of the imagination.
I see many have taken to instagram and other platforms to sell for much cheaper and if that business model is truly working for you, that is great but it certainly is not the norm.
I do see lots of newer breeders at seed banks starting to price things in line with Bodhi (45 a pack down from 70) but a lot of the time thier stuff sits there while other known breeders are still doing very well selling at 100+ a pack. Bodhi's stuff sells due to reputation and the low price but even if his stuff was still 70 a pack my guess is sales would not suffer.
So it seems a pointless effort to be slagging a guy because he won't sell seeds for 20 bucks a pack.

 

[MidwestCannaman]

So yes $50 is reasonable but remember when we sell to a seedbank they take 50% of money and $25 is not acceptable.

Also you can't undercut the seedbanks that sell your seeds or they won't stock your seeds so we have to sell for same price they offer.

So $100 a pack = $50 for seedmaker and $50 for seedbank.

Seedmakers have Rent cost , electricity, tax , supply's etc and less than $50 doesn't cover unless we selling 1,000's packs like the big boys

Holy shit, do seedbanks really bump prices 50% right off the bat? It seems to me that buying and str8 cutting out the middleman would be much better for the breeder and the grower. No disrespect meant at all and im sorry if im stepping on anyones toes. It makes much more sense to me now why so many different "breeders" are selling directly to the public from their own websites. Otherwise breeders just lose 50% of all profits right off of the top... Thats even after the breeders that put in time, effort, work, and dedication. I'd love to see more lines getting worked to stability than run the hype strain of the month....

 

[Tynehead Tom]

Holy shit, do seedbanks really bump prices 50% right off the bat? It seems to me that buying and str8 cutting out the middleman would be much better for the breeder and the grower. No disrespect meant at all and im sorry if im stepping on anyones toes. It makes much more sense to me now why so many different "breeders" are selling directly to the public from their own websites. Otherwise breeders just lose 50% of all profits right off of the top... Thats even after the breeders that put in time, effort, work, and dedication. I'd love to see more lines getting worked to stability than run the hype strain of the month....

50% has been the average, globally, for some time..... perhaps as long as I can remember.
As a breeder, I'm fine with it and here's why.
They handle advertising, storage, and shipping.
Some of us are terrible at the customer service end when we try and be our own retailer simply because we have little time to be doing all that when we need our heads in the garden more than the average grower.
Yes , i could build a website, try and find a point of sale system, figure out the logistics of shipping and purchase all that packaging...... or I can outsource that to a trusted seedbank for fair compensation.
It is obviously a situation that is widely accepted in the industry by breeders so I don't think it's anything to get uptight about.
Cannabis and Cannabis seeds are not legal commodities in most countries and Seedbanks give a breeder a buffer in that regard..... some security that is not had trying to retail your own product in the illicit market.

 

[ojd]

Yeah to me I'm totally cool and understand the 50% and that's most businesses, not just cannabis, they got to make money to.

Like @Tynehead Tom says they handle everything and it's much easier etc , plus other things there wide range of customers, including new clients that see your new stock and never heard of or seen you strains before.

I only mention the 50% seedbanks take when people talk about $1 seeds and that's what they should sell for , go for it , nobody stopping you.

 

[right]

The reeferman strains I grew were excellent. It has been some time though

 

[oldmaninbc]

It was Reefermans early seed lines I enjoyed growing. So much so, I only grew his strains.
Then he started his trips to foreign countries and things seemed to change. He came out with new strains and I put in one of my biggest orders with him, that's where it all went to hell. I ordered a number of strains but when my order arrived it was mostly substitutes. I dislike substitutes immensely. I still have seeds from my last reeferman order. I can't say for sure but maybe around 2009. I said then I would never buy from him again and I will stay with that.

You might get the idea I hold grudges, not really.

 

[right]

I grew out bohdi satva. Cambodian x cindy99.
A cherry bomb that tasted like cherry had red pistols and was a full blown sativa. All good.
I smoked Willie Nelson grown in Nor-Cal that was excellent.

 

[little-soldier]

seed prices should be more in the range of a dime for a seed. I grew hundreds of seeds and the rare super tasty ones are almost non existent. its one in a few hundreds for me. But then again im super picky and rather not smoke if its not going to be a long lasting explosion of flavors in my mouth. I couldn't care less about the high. Anyone who smoked cherry pie knows what i mean by explosion of flavor that coats your mouth like almost nothing else. Too much watered down flavors out there.

 

[Dime]

seed prices should be more in the range of a dime for a seed. I grew hundreds of seeds and the rare super tasty ones are almost non existent. its one in a few hundreds for me. But then again im super picky and rather not smoke if its not going to be a long lasting explosion of flavors in my mouth. I couldn't care less about the high. Anyone who smoked cherry pie knows what i mean by explosion of flavor that coats your mouth like almost nothing else. Too much watered down flavors out there.

It's interesting what people prefer. I am the opposite, I don't care about flavor or bag appeal and only the high.