sounds like something that would be good to use in combination with other strains
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BlackStar1240w
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Meh...to be honest, I'd use it for pain relief, and stick to the other stuff for "enhancement" lol.
The best option would probably be to cook with it. That way you can take a large dose for pain relief in the morning, and then use other strains for what you need.
the cbd thing is kinda confusing to me... Cause in my experience, the most pain relieving strain (chronic back pain) has been the Chem D. But ive seen lab reports stating the chem d only has .5% cbd. Anyone have any other results from chem d? only one ive found is from 'straingenuis' website. Which reported it at 18% thc... But i know ive seen another report giving it 22% thc, but dont know what the cbd reading was.
Lets hope that harlequin x destroyer cross tunes up something special
Lets hope that harlequin x destroyer cross tunes up something special
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I think terpene has like 3 of the H x destroyer growing as we speak I think
LED growers, i had a pal that vegged under LED then flowered under HPS and I noticed the vegging plants under LED were noticeably darker green than what he was achieving under T5s or MH. Do you guys find that to be true and is there someone making LED lamps with a price point that is a little more in reach? Would love to know the size of your vegging area and how many watts of LED you need to do it, just curious, thanks for the input
BL
BL
these are offered as a decent price considering the wattage.
http://www.blackstarled.com/90bl3wch.html
http://www.blackstarled.com/90bl3wch.html
BlackStar1240w
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Agreed on the blackstar(obviously). My first grow has been awesome.
Im contemplating getting an additional 400wHPS just to see what the difference in yield would be by adding it in, or using it in substitution of one of the 500w LEDs
Im contemplating getting an additional 400wHPS just to see what the difference in yield would be by adding it in, or using it in substitution of one of the 500w LEDs
fwiw i've pulled 10zips from a 400w hps, not sure how those led's yeild for you but a single 400w was enough to supply the head between harvests and only cost like $25 a month to run in socal
HPS > LED
Tell ya honestly Smoke, high CBD strains are disappointing to those looking for a good time. The "high" is entirely from the bridge of your nose down. I say "high" because its more pain relief coupled with a light OG body buzz. Pain, nausea, muscle soreness, muscle cramps, feminine cramps, etc - if you're experiencing pain, Harlequin is just what your particular doctor recommended. I was a total non believer in CBD pain relief - I was very wrong, its instant. Come home from a hard day of back breaking labor and the pain is nearly non existent after exhale.
Harlequin is mostly sativa, which is good for those who are looking for pain relief as well as the ability to get something done, but its not racy in the least.
I don't know Harlequin's parentage, but I would assume its an afghani of some sort, or it at least has some in there. The final smell is roses/maroon which then cures out into dark chocolate - more chocolate than my chocolope was.
What I am going for with the Holy Grail (harlequin x destroyer) is harlequin's pain knockdown with destroyer's high. I think that the two together would make for a really positive, energetic sativa which grows like crazy (meao thai influence) and is CBD potent.
As for vegging under led, I don't see any difference other than they grow more aggressively than they will under CFLs. Now that 3w blackstars are down to basically $1 per watt, it doesn't make sense to run anything else. Zero heat, ability to practically set them on top of the plants - just awesome for scrogging.
The popcorn lower branches of the Poison skunk are so black licorice-lime?-skunky that they leave a residue of licoriceish in your throat/lungs after smoking... almost like smoking menthols. Crazy energetic, nearly racy, definitely going to let this one amber a bit before I cut it.
BlackStar1240w
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I've never grown with HPS, and I am pretty sure you've never grown with a legit LED. Most of the LEDs out there are not 3w LEDs and that does make a diff.
I think HPS has its benefits, as does LED. To say one is better than the other flat out is just not correct.
I'm all for Holy Grails & have been interested in CBD rich strains for awhile. Question comes to mind though...have you tried smoking a joint that was a mix of Harlequin & another high THC strain.
I think thats what ST was getting at-
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I would just say that hps have a more time tested solid background for producing good yeilds of good herb, not that the led's aren't capable of producing...im just not an innovator, i like knowing what im getting into, and i thank you for going out on a limb and spending all the time & $ to give us all more of an idea of what the led's are capable of.
smart cars will get ya from a to b....but id rather cruise in my jeep, it's got a solid background of being reliable and coming through in even the toughest situations...feel me?
BlackStar1240w
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Feel you completely.
That's why I wanna put a HPS in there as well to compare
That's why I wanna put a HPS in there as well to compare
Harlequin came back with high CBD content because it was grown outdoors...same strain grown indoors barely put out 2% CBD....
UV and CBD = High CBD content
I have used LEDS and have many friends that have tested them out.... if your into minimal penetration they are great.... they are chill for scrogs I suppose...but in all honesty ...a 400 HPS blows and LED set up out the water... this is a fact... i just finished buidling an 18K grow room for myself ..so your not talking to a rookie grower.... LEDS are cool for hobby growers... for serious growers they play zero role in anything
UV and CBD = High CBD content
I have used LEDS and have many friends that have tested them out.... if your into minimal penetration they are great.... they are chill for scrogs I suppose...but in all honesty ...a 400 HPS blows and LED set up out the water... this is a fact... i just finished buidling an 18K grow room for myself ..so your not talking to a rookie grower.... LEDS are cool for hobby growers... for serious growers they play zero role in anything
the outdoor indoor thing makes a lot of sense to me... Some of the most potent stones ive had have been from outdoor herb
This is interesting to me. I've been told that CFLs put out tons of UV at close distances, to the point where various European groups have been running tests on their safety at various distances. 1240's LEDs came with stickers on them warning about the UV level output.
I have been wondering about HPS UV production. I know metal halide is supposedly loaded with UV, but does HPS fall short in UV and that's the reasoning behind the low CBD levels from indoor? The flower sample I grabbed at Harborside was tested at 9.5% and the smoke from my Harlequin clone was definitely just as CBD potent.
Is there a measurement or chart that shows UV output based on light source? A UV lumen output of sorts. I would be interested in seeing just how much of a difference there is, and then compare that to the great outdoors.
SmokeTrees,
CDB rates don't 'always' have to be too high to be effective - sometimes it's also about the synergy of the different cannabinoids at play. Also concentrates (Hash, BHO) help boost CDB intake levels, which can help make some strains more effective in the CDB area.
You may want to check out this website- they do standardized testing of many Dispensary buds in Colorado and show you all the different cannabinoid levels.
Full Spectrum Labs (Cannabinoid test levels) CBN, CDB, THC, CBC etc..
http://fullspectrumlabs.com/tested/strains/
(It looks like the site might be temp down - but its usually online)
CDB rates don't 'always' have to be too high to be effective - sometimes it's also about the synergy of the different cannabinoids at play. Also concentrates (Hash, BHO) help boost CDB intake levels, which can help make some strains more effective in the CDB area.
You may want to check out this website- they do standardized testing of many Dispensary buds in Colorado and show you all the different cannabinoid levels.
Full Spectrum Labs (Cannabinoid test levels) CBN, CDB, THC, CBC etc..
http://fullspectrumlabs.com/tested/strains/
(It looks like the site might be temp down - but its usually online)
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