Sacred Seeds Skunk #1 in 1980

[Huesos]

Around 82, there were other dime bags that were totally badass in their own right. I remember the sativa soaring high. I could tell that the smoke was from the same source as the skunks. That's when dime bags became popular. You think all those awesome sativas just disappeared?

You had to hide your smoke sometimes, because all the heads would smoke out all your dime bag if you weren't careful. $10 was a lot of money for us heads back then.

 

[billycw]

For comparison here is one of the first skunks in Europe from Old Ed's site circa 1984. Looks like the same greenhouse as the pic with BD next to maybe the same skunk plant?

From Old Ed's site, Skunk#1 1984

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

Hi , Madjag , do you remember if the seeds were watermelon shaped or more rounded? And I was curious to what male to female ratios were if ya remember

Thanks

 

[Madjag]

Rounded would be my first response. They came in large gelatin caps that were in the labeled Sacred Seeds envelopes.

The m/f ratio....can't help you there. We planted two gardens, one got hit by a plague of grasshoppers that ate almost all the 8" -15" plants in two weeks. We had to replant in late May and also planted a protected seed bed in case more had to be replaced. Because the other garden was OK and didn't have to be replanted (it was a mile deeper in the canyon), I'd say that it was close to 50-50. What I wish I had observed more closely was the germination ratio.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

Rounded would be my first response. They came in large gelatin caps that were in the labeled Sacred Seeds envelopes.

The m/f ratio....can't help you there. We planted two gardens, one got hit by a plague of grasshoppers that ate almost all the 8" -15" plants in two weeks. We had to replant in late May and also planted a protected seed bed in case more had to be replaced. Because the other garden was OK and didn't have to be replanted (it was a mile deeper in the canyon), I'd say that it was close to 50-50. What I wish I had observed more closely was the germination ratio.

great clue ,the old skunk seeds i had were very round and the smaller side.... thanks so much for the info

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I cant see how seed appearance can be a big clue. After seeing a lot of seeds, there are tons of varieties that have nothing to do with skunk that are very round and quite small. It might be a slight indicator, but I doubt it is, even to experienced breeders. For example i just backcrossed some starlet kush x stardawg, and the sativa pheno seeds were super tiny and round. The indica ones were much larger : This doesn't tell us much about what genetics were used, just calyx size.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

Old Ed did not ever grow Skunk#1 that I remember, he grew his varieties. Maybe the year is wrong? Maybe it is not his Skunk #1, maybe it is not Skunk#1?
-SamS

For comparison here is one of the first skunks in Europe from Old Ed's site circa 1984. Looks like the same greenhouse as the pic with BD next to maybe the same skunk plant?

From Old Ed's site, Skunk#1 1984
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[JayBird1]

Dang Sam...ohh how we loved that skunk ass taste and smell...and buzz.

 

[billycw]

Old Ed did not ever grow Skunk#1 that I remember, he grew his varieties. Maybe the year is wrong? Maybe it is not his Skunk #1, maybe it is not Skunk#1?
-SamS

Your right it doesn't say Sk#1 just "skunk" on the picture, I have always assumed it was Sk#1... The paragraph before that points at your sk#1 as well.

qoute under picture

Old Ed looks at the first Skunk plants

Paragraph leading to the picture on Old Ed's site

And then there was Skunk
The Green Team is now maintained throughout the country gardens with plants
In 1984, the Green team had achieved a turnover of several hundred kilograms per year and it was time for expansion. We sent a ticket to two promising Americans, Ed Rosenthal, the famous writer of the ancient Bible weed and a man named Sam Skunkman. This Sam promised such huge harvests and benefits with the new species developed by Skunk him that we called him the miracle man. That year we grew for the first Skunk in a greenhouse as in the picture below.

When I had to sell Skunk cannabis was literally pulled out of our hands. Consumers were enthusiastic about the beautiful red tops and locks grown weed in their hearts. Sam was absolutely right! Its kind made in cultivation in the greenhouse and indoor possible. The wheel that we worked so hard to spin had been now began to turn around with awesome speed. Everything was suddenly possible.

Also have always been curious of this picture of BD looking at "skunk #1", date posted is 83 although 84-85 sounds right. Any clarification on this one if you don't mind Sam?

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

ED did not have Skunk#1 until after 85, you need to ask him what the photo is and what year.
-SamS

 

[Copperfield]

Dammit Sam, u seem to know what's up on the skunk 1. Is it still possible to find?? I'm just a small fry, but I'd damn sure love to see that in my garden

 

[Copperfield]

That's a blockhead bx frm bodi seeds and a master kush from ab normal!!

 

[Bradley_Danks]

wow, your old school arizona grows are super intriguing. I catch myself daydreaming about growing outdoor in Arizona with all that awesome sun... I could grow such late strains

Grasshoppers huh? thats crazy. Never herd of that. Wonder what kinda spray would work on those. What kinda fertilizer were u using back then? the buds look nice and fat!

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

I cant see how seed appearance can be a big clue. After seeing a lot of seeds, there are tons of varieties that have nothing to do with skunk that are very round and quite small. It might be a slight indicator, but I doubt it is, even to experienced breeders. For example i just backcrossed some starlet kush x stardawg, and the sativa pheno seeds were super tiny and round. The indica ones were much larger : This doesn't tell us much about what genetics were used, just calyx size.

Exp is everything , comes with the years ..... Suttle hints are clues to many things.... Just like some things can be right under your nose the whole time..... Rosin for example...

Hmk. Kief is best for bho right...
Lol.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

Old Ed did not ever grow Skunk#1 that I remember, he grew his varieties. Maybe the year is wrong? Maybe it is not his Skunk #1, maybe it is not Skunk#1?
-SamS

Hi Sam , since we're on subject , what were the profiles on your skunk? Smells flavors ect , and what was the cannabanoid content?

Could you describe what the original seeds looked like ?


Thanks.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Hmk. Kief is best for bho right...
Lol.

I think we are talking about skunkweed here. If you want to provoke me, i'm not taking the bait. I said seed appearance wont tell much about the strain being skunkweed or not, nothing about rosin or bho.

If you want to talk about skunk rosin, bring it on.

 

[jmk18]

Someone should write a book about guerilla growing in the us in the 70's or 80's. That'd be cool from a first person perspective

 

[idiit]

Notice how the original SK#1 was NLD.....very Sativa dominant. The hybrid structure fueled the flower stacking and many of the plants were almost self-pruning in respect to the larger fan leaves. We averaged 6.8 oz per plant across both gardens that year.

Two week-old dried buds, when crushed up for consumption, would truly fill a room with the aroma. It stuck in people's hair after smoking and you could tell who was baked and who was not.

Since Sam states that he introduced SK#1 in 1976 and that it was super skunky, I believe that the SK#1 that I bought in 1979 for the 1980 season was the later Skunk#1 that Sam had bred for sweetness and a more cerebral high.

"I did not like to smoke the really skunky ones they were stony as hell but did not get you high the way I like, so by selection I altered that and made a much higher sweeter version..."

I would love to hear Sam Skunkman's thoughts on whether the terpenes and aroma of Skunk #1 were due to an individual source such as the Afghani or the Colombian that were part of the original mix or if he thinks it is a synergistic effect, i.e., the Skunk smell was a result of the combination of Afghani, Mexican, and Colombian strains all together and no single one was responsible.

^ madjag
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BTW, RKS was not Afghani #1 it was the skunky original Skunk #1, Afghani #1 did not smell like skunks.
-SamS

" Originally Posted by Sam_Skunkman View Post
Wrong, Skunk #1 was the first version and it was skunky as hell. I bred through selections of skunk #1 and reproduced the sweeter seeds and later the sweeter and higher clones, maybe not more stoney or skunky. I selected for what I liked as well as against the skunky smell that caused problems for growers, it was illegal and just to stinky to manage safely. I called all versions Skunk #1 they were all from the same genepool Afghan / Colombian X Acapulco Gold, just selected for different end goals. I never called any Skunk #1 RKS that name popped up long after Skunk #1 was introduced in 1976 (people did say it smelled like a dead run over skunk near a grow). I did not like to smoke the really skunky ones they were stony as hell but did not get you high the way I like, so by selection I altered that and made a much higher sweeter version that was pretty much ceilingless when the resin was smoked, and still strong as hell but a better high to me. I also increased the brancheyness (from the main stalk, side branches from the branches, from the branches from the branches) making more sites for bud as well as increasing the flower to leaf ratio. I always did selections with big plants in the ground to avoid using parents that cant hold up big flowered branches, I want strong stems, and reject parents that have problems."

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Hi , Madjag , do you remember if the seeds were watermelon shaped or more rounded? And I was curious to what male to female ratios were if ya remember

Hrpuffnkush

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doing a 1988 year sssc skunk #1 aka m9 seed preservation run for ic member stash. had the city water ph drastically change and plants are recovering. will post more pics. out of 7 seedlings this run looks to be 6/7 males. this is round two. I have seeds from round one already done. looking to increase the # of seeds finished. there is a lingering skunk odor when these young seedlings are moved. all look almost identical.

I also increased the brancheyness (from the main stalk, side branches from the branches, from the branches from the branches) making more sites for bud as well as increasing the flower to leaf ratio

sam s

the sssc 1988 seedlings are sativa dom and do not appear to have been bred for branchyness.

 

[rhinoman 1]

Is this from seed? Hope he's not using Flint water!

 

[idiit]

Hope he's not using Flint water!

classic.

edited to add:

In what’s become a huge government scandal, garnering headlines across the country and around the world, Flint’s drinking water became contaminated with lead after the city temporarily switched its supply source from Lake Huron water treated by the Detroit Water and Sewerage Department to more corrosive and polluted Flint River water, treated at the Flint water treatment plant.

I was lazy/complacent and did not check the tap water ph on a regular basis.

leaded or unleaded ? nice!

seeds; pic. of beans round 1: