Sacred Seeds Skunk #1 in 1980

[Madjag]

Well the Nicotiana species that Native Americans smoke is much different from the plant in the YouTube video. Check it out yourself.


bassman5123
bassman512310 months ago

I've got these suckers all over my ranch. They are said to grow between 6-20 feet, but I have several that easily measure 30 feet. They're great on property lines for privacy, but terrible for reproducing more of themselves (they rapidly spread all over the place via insects and birds). Some countries actually consider this plant a noxious weed, but they are in fact, a shrub that grows into a tree. And if they're not killed while their fairly young, they can become a problem to structures, fences, and all kinds of other things. Hummingbirds love the damn things and so do the squirrels. I've heard that the birds can ingest the nectar safely (and that they only take the nectar), however, I think that the later get high on them. My horses don't have access to them, but my dogs do. They don't seem to like them though, and I've never had a problem in the many years that I've lived here. I've heard it's because the plant smells very strong and bitter to most domesticated animals. And if you cut one open, that makes perfect sense.[/B]


Suki
Suki1 year ago

PLEASE DO NOT EAT ANY OF THE LEAVES OR SEEDS, OR WATER THAT HAS EXTRACTED JUICE FROM THE LEAVES OF THIS PLANT. THIS PLANT IS HIGHLY TOXIC. LOOK THIS UP, IT HAS CAUSED MANY MANY DEATHS. PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT EAT ANY PART OR SMOKE ANY PART OF THIS PLANT, THIS IS NOT A NORMAL NICOTINE PLANT , IT IS A WEED. THIS PLANT IS USED BY MANY COMPANY’S AS AN INSECTICIDE AND IS FATAL IF INGESTED

David Floren

David Floren1 year ago
Warning: Tree Tobacco is toxic to humans and animals, according to "Weed Control in Natural Areas in the Western United States. It contains no nicotine. Instead it contains a similar compound called "anabasine, which is highly toxic to humans and animals." So be warned - this is not something you want to cultivate for human consumption. Don't ingest or inhale anything containing tree tobacco. It's not good for livestock either. It's been known to cause fetal deformities in livestock when the mother ingests small amounts of it during early pregnancy.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Reeferman had a UK cheese, and assured me although it had some excellent stank, its power was sorely lacking in comparison. I could have grabbed a cut but declined at his description.

 

[Ganja baba]

No worries Sam, in my opinion the best representation of your Skunk#1 is the UK cheese, I mean the 1980's exodus cut not the other newer creations that are passed off as cheese.

How far away from RKS is the famous UK Cheese?

Thanks in advance

If Some said to me what strain from the sensi catologue is cheese I would say from 1989 it was def sk1 X afghani as there afghani used to have the anticeptic medicine smell but not the skunk stink , the afghani was a similar colour to cheese as well , could just simply be start pollen in the labs or just a afghani phenotype of sk1 , also sensi were making super skunk at the time so some of those genes were being used , they probably had a new afghani in the mix by 1989

 

[GoatCheese]

If Some said to me what strain from the sensi catologue is cheese I would say from 1989 it was def sk1 X afghani as there afghani used to have the anticeptic medicine smell but not the skunk stink , the afghani was a similar colour to cheese as well , could just simply be start pollen in the labs or just a afghani phenotype of sk1 , also sensi were making super skunk at the time so some of those genes were being used , they probably had a new afghani in the mix by 1989

I think UK Cheese is just Skunk#1 not Skunk x afghan. I've grown s1 seeds of the Cheese (Greenhouse's Exodus Cheese)and there's not alot of Affie-influence in those plants, other than what Skunk has in it, but plenty of tall-and-lanky plants, meaning more sativa-leaning.. If it would be a Skunk x Affie, i belive it would show up more in the S1-seeds. my 2 cents.

 

[Ganja baba]

I think UK Cheese is just Skunk#1 not Skunk x afghan. I've grown s1 seeds of the Cheese (Greenhouse's Exodus Cheese)and there's not alot of Affie-influence in those plants, other than what Skunk has in it, but plenty of tall-and-lanky plants, meaning more sativa-leaning.. If it would be a Skunk x Affie, i belive it would show up more in the S1-seeds. my 2 cents.

Good point , I'm just going by taste and smells in relation to the strains I grew from sensi , thing is the fact cheese doesn't make cheese in most crosses leads me to think that it's a rare pheno type of a polyhybrid of some sort , when I cross plants with cheese I get typical skunk veriations , only average yields if not poor in crosses , it's doesn't cross like a sk1 from 1989 ,
Also I do see the afghan trait which like I said didn't have the pungent stink like the cheese but def had floral similarities , for me the two crossed would def represent cheese to some degree , also when breeding it's easy to get pollen here and there , and the sensi had big facilities back then , some day all this isn't important but I like discussing others opinions .
Sam I notice you don't talk about cheese to much , I'm more interested in its genetic past , is this a strain you have looked into regarding its DNA , I would be most interested to hear any opinions even based on general observations regarding Afghan and sk1 traits in your opinion .

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Sams' old afghan #1 was a real reeker of the roadkill I recall him saying.

 

[Ganja baba]

Sams' old afghan #1 was a real reeker of the roadkill I recall him saying.

I have had many sk1 from around that time that indeed had a cheese smell but only untill week 4 and more fruity , my pineapple is like this but then it goes , I'm quite convinced it's a sk1 cross to some kind of indica . But its main thing it's got going for it is it's a skunk it's a dam good sk1/indica dom skunk and leans it's greatness to the original sk1 from SAMs stock , I'm smoking some at the mo , so deep and narcotic
Also your right there was some really stinky afghan around it's a lovely mix of that and sk1 IMO

 

[GoatCheese]

I would love to hear Sam Skunkman's thoughts on whether the terpenes and aroma of Skunk #1 were due to an individual source such as the Afghani or the Colombian that were part of the original mix or if he thinks it is a synergistic effect, i.e., the Skunk smell was a result of the combination of Afghani, Mexican, and Colombian strains all together and no single one was responsible.

I don't know if Sam ever replied to this and i haven't read every post in this thread, but if you guys didn't get a reply and are still wondering


According to Sam it was the Affie that brought in the "rks" smell


"sam...was the afghan or columbian you used really skunky as hell to begin with?"
The Afghan was.
-SamS


Here:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=82182&page=51


Cool pics and stories Madjag! Cheers

 

[mack 10]

Reeferman had a UK cheese, and assured me although it had some excellent stank, its power was sorely lacking in comparison. I could have grabbed a cut but declined at his description.

Should Of tried it, I bet you'd love it.
Makes great 710 an shocking Rosin.

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Thats right, and when i showed him pics of what we had been calling skunkweed for decades in BC(the dead skunk on the road variety), he said it certainly didnt look like his skunk #1 at all, but conjectured that it could be afghani#1, or afghani #1 x skunk #1.

 

[rykus]

I think a lot of the hippie travel folks and entrepreneurial dealers brought many of the older land race varieties with them as they moved around or moved large weight around the globe...

I have gotten old seeds from the 70's and 80's that have been very similar to what we got as purple kush and some of the first plants I grew in the 90's as a kid where old afgani and Thai seeds our parents and hire friend s had stashed, most of the clone on lies where also from old stock seed here in BC and where often better than the Amsterdam seeds we bought at the time...

IMO there is a good chance some of the skunk around BC was just skunky smelling old stock not necessarily related to SAMs sk#1....


But the story I heard on RKS was that it came n in Alberta from Amsterdam and spread west, then south in the early 80's.... From the old timers anyways...

 

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I think a lot of the hippie travel folks and entrepreneurial dealers brought many of the older land race varieties with them as they moved around or moved large weight around the globe...

I have gotten old seeds from the 70's and 80's that have been very similar to what we got as purple kush and some of the first plants I grew in the 90's as a kid where old afgani and Thai seeds our parents and hire friend s had stashed, most of the clone on lies where also from old stock seed here in BC and where often better than the Amsterdam seeds we bought at the time...

IMO there is a good chance some of the skunk around BC was just skunky smelling old stock not necessarily related to SAMs sk#1....


But the story I heard on RKS was that it came n in Alberta from Amsterdam and spread west, then south in the early 80's.... From the old timers anyways...

The skunk we got was in 1980, clones in a semi trailer, brought straight from california. it was just called skunk, but was purely indica pretty much, so definitely not a skunk#1. A great roadkill type skunk, anyone who smoked it much would make it their if you only had one choice - trapped on a deserted island weed.

 

[PrimalHaze]

Mel Frank comments on afghan having the skunk smell. And didn't Sam get Afghan1 From Mel?

Rob Clarke Says the same about Afghans

from "HASHISH!":

"It is interesting to trace what became of some of these Afghani seeds. When those who traveled the Hippie Hashish Trail returned from their travels, more than a few took home seeds from the broad-leaf Afghani hashish varieties.

These varieties prospered in northern California, Oregon, Hawaii, Arkansas and New York, producing short, wide, well-branched, thoroughly distinctive plants which smelled acrid, as though sprayed by a passing skunk."

 

[GoatCheese]

Mel Frank comments on afghan having the skunk smell. And didn't Sam get Afghan1 From Mel?

Rob Clarke Says the same about Afghans

from "HASHISH!":

"It is interesting to trace what became of some of these Afghani seeds. When those who traveled the Hippie Hashish Trail returned from their travels, more than a few took home seeds from the broad-leaf Afghani hashish varieties.

These varieties prospered in northern California, Oregon, Hawaii, Arkansas and New York, producing short, wide, well-branched, thoroughly distinctive plants which smelled acrid, as though sprayed by a passing skunk."

I don't know what Afghan was used in Skunk#1, but i read at MrNice forum, Nevil speculating that there is no Afghan#1 in Skunk, but some other Affie


..think Nevil speculated that the Afghani used in Skunk #1 might have been related to the Maple Leaf-line.

 

[jay sus]

i live in north of europe, so when skunk landed here at about´90 or so it was still very pungent, way pungent. but what it was was sure bet producer in any set up. that was times of fluorescents and 250w hps. whatever bagseed what we had was tropicals, mainly keralan, gambian and central american and thai varieties, and with those kinds of lights i don´t recall single one successful run of those by anyone, ever. so what skunk brought to us was sinsemilla, which changed this moroccan lebanese hash country forever. but it was still kinda lame, kinda low ceiling weed, no soaring, trippy as fuck haze thang at all, that came with sensis nl#5 x haze, that was a game changer to me. but 18 weeks for fully mature bud was repellent for most of course, little has changed. but as for skunk, it was a mule, not thorough bred race horse, but sometimes you need more mule than race horse. but maybe those first skunks were more afghani dom than #1, sounds like

 

[Slipnot]

Mel Frank comments on afghan having the skunk smell. And didn't Sam get Afghan1 From Mel?

Rob Clarke Says the same about Afghans

from "HASHISH!":

"It is interesting to trace what became of some of these Afghani seeds. When those who traveled the Hippie Hashish Trail returned from their travels, more than a few took home seeds from the broad-leaf Afghani hashish varieties.

These varieties prospered in northern California, Oregon, Hawaii, Arkansas and New York, producing short, wide, well-branched, thoroughly distinctive plants which smelled acrid, as though sprayed by a passing skunk."

i have grown original Afghanistan it has 0 skunk smell the origins of skunk cam shortly after breeders brought seeds into USA,
and breeders started crossing it with strains in the emerald triangle and mexican strains its in that mix where the inherited skunk smell and aroma started
true Afghanistan has a slight pine , sweet earthy smell to it, being stable it was heavily sought after strain and grand parents to what we see today it has all the lateral branching short bush sought after qualities

some real RKS huge difference in looks then original Afghanistan

 

[bigtacofarmer]

Afghanistan is the name of a country . Each area has its own genetics. Every time a seed collector travel to region they are likely picking up seeds created by a different farmer. I'd find it hard to believe that all Afghans taste like pine. I personally have no idea how many strains are actual grown in Afghanistan but I'd imagine quite a few.

 

[Donald Mallard]

I don't know what Afghan was used in Skunk#1, but i read at MrNice forum, Nevil speculating that there is no Afghan#1 in Skunk, but some other Affie


..think Nevil speculated that the Afghani used in Skunk #1 might have come from the Garlic Bud-line, iirc.

Mazar-i-Sharif

 

[Donald Mallard]

The skunk we got was in 1980, clones in a semi trailer, brought straight from california. it was just called skunk, but was purely indica pretty much, so definitely not a skunk#1. A great roadkill type skunk, anyone who smoked it much would make it their if you only had one choice - trapped on a deserted island weed.

probably as sam mentioned skunk x afghan ,
pure afghan wouldn't have the buds you were looking at ,,
pure indica buds dont look as fantastic as that ...

 

[Slipnot]

Afghanistan is the name of a country . Each area has its own genetics. Every time a seed collector travel to region they are likely picking up seeds created by a different farmer. I'd find it hard to believe that all Afghans taste like pine. I personally have no idea how many strains are actual grown in Afghanistan but I'd imagine quite a few.

most strains or names were created from there geological area hindu kush moutain ranges most all are strains from there are orginal DNA sequenced only difference is there locations and evolution ..

for instance
Afghan Kush, an almost 100% Indica strain is naturally grown in the Hindu Kush mountain range. The strain has a very earthy, almost "hash-like", scent with a hint of Pinesol-like aroma. When smoked, it has a sweet hash taste similar to its smell. pine smell
when we look at other regions all true indica from that region have a pine smell Pakistan Chitral Kush is a landrace indica strain from Chitral valleys of Pakistan
Smell in late flowering: Nutmeg with a touch of pine
Smell after drying and very short curing: Earthy and aromatic, but slightly sweet like cinnamon with pine after tones

We have to realize one thing many people / breeders will go there to get seeds.
the residents are to broke to even leave there country So its really that strain
when you go to Jamaica which i have friends and been there it becomes harder with more foreign traffic there land races have become bastardized there are only a hand full of farmers growing with natural heirloom seed varieties most have already been damaged from cross contamination .. in Afghanistan or Pakistan there heirlooms are passed down generation after generation of seeds there seeds stocks are strong as they grow mountain sides 10;s of of thousands of males and females they not only grow buds its the seeds and oils that there after

Even DJ mentioned seeded buds from over there when they make there hashish has a variety of tastes and highs compared to the hash we make from normal buds here they harvest seeded buds collect seeds that were pollinated by 1000's of different males etc