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Sacred Seeds Skunk #1 in 1980

Ganja baba

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Any of you guys know the true history of northern lights ,? And I don't suppose any of the old crew had a big bud seeds kicking about I'm remaking a classics range , I have a 1 true sensi big bud but it's old and needs some vigour back but smell and taste is spot on , I have the skunks, orange ,afghan 1 , domina , northern 5 haze
The 1984 sssc seeds are being popped this week hope they germ ,

Also big bud if any one know more than what's writen ,
This thread is total porn to me thanks for taking the time to sort all your pics out and put them on here
 

idiit

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Any of you guys know the true history of northern lights ,?
Originally Posted by NL Seattle Greg

Aloha,

The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.

I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.

Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.

I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.

The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.

The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
^mustafunk post: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=7172832&highlight=northern+lights#post7172832
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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I do believe skunk is in every thing also from another view , that when strain hunters started to go around the world bring land races back we got sk1 but those land races were getting spread wide and far , you would have a guy with sk1 then make some
Seeds with his ghani or Swazi so even back then there was a lust to cross out what they had with new stuff sk1 would have been crossed in and out by man different people

There are lots of modern strains with no skunk#1 in them. Certainly it got around, but in everything? No way. There are lots of examples. There is no skunk#1 in breeder steves' sweet skunk, and for another, red congo has no skunk #1 in it. I have tons of seeds that have no skunk #1 background. As far as can be determined, even the roadkill genetics i possess aren't from skunk#1.
 
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charlie garcia

FireIn. The Sky, the yield is probably very low because the plant is suffering from inbreeding depression.

Tripsick, as for Skunk#1 being involved with every Modern strain I doubt that.
The typical Dutch seeds may have a 80+% chance of having some Skunk #1
in them mind you. But not all of them.

For example: I highly doubt that all the seeds that Ace Seeds and Cannabiogen
are coming out with have any Skunk#1 in them. I'm sure there are others out
there who haven't used Skunk#1 also. But these two mentioned seed banks
are the easiest to point out. The same goes for anyone else using only
landraces to breed with.

Hola,

In 90's was difficult to find the classic lines without hybridation, fully agree, some friends here in Spain or even in Argentina use to find the new modern skunk hybrids responsible of the grey mold and our point of view was so negative, we liked sativa highs. Sure for farmers and everyone was fantastic but not for ones looking back for best lines and highs we wished and not mold in autumm. Nevertheless, it could have been Skunk, NL, Afghani instead, not idea but skunk was so prone to mold here. Maybe looking at Mexican weeds for last decades could be best example to see how things evolved in the weed shapes and all

best
kaiki
 

Sam_Skunkman

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RKS= Colombian X Afghani from Mazar, later known as California Indica.
Sweet Skunk= Afghani (different one) X Acapulco Gold.

No polihybrid but 2 different lines.

Just my personal hypothesis.Bye.

Not true.....
-SamS
 

corky1968

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Hola,

In 90's was difficult to find the classic lines without hybridation, fully agree, some friends here in Spain or even in Argentina use to find the new modern skunk hybrids responsible of the grey mold and our point of view was so negative, we liked sativa highs. Sure for farmers and everyone was fantastic but not for ones looking back for best lines and highs we wished and not mold in autumm. Nevertheless, it could have been Skunk, NL, Afghani instead, not idea but skunk was so prone to mold here. Maybe looking at Mexican weeds for last decades could be best example to see how things evolved in the weed shapes and all

best
kaiki

The mold problem is easy to understand. Sativas are designed to be able to withstand much higher humidity than Indicas
by their very structure which thin and long. Indicas on the other hand are too thick and solid for high humidity levels as
they tend they get mold very easily under such conditions. Because they hold water long enough for mold spores to take
hold.
 

Ganja baba

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There are lots of modern strains with no skunk#1 in them. Certainly it got around, but in everything? No way. There are lots of examples. There is no skunk#1 in breeder steves' sweet skunk, and for another, red congo has no skunk #1 in it. I have tons of seeds that have no skunk #1 background. As far as can be determined, even the roadkill genetics i possess aren't from skunk#1.

Yes mate that is true I am generally referring to skunk phenotype similarities regardless of the parents , thing is if you go back far enough people may have different combos of columbian X afghan , hawians and xs to indica can all make punjent skunk types , I re phrase what I meant , to me most not all modern cannabis strains regardless of their said heritage seem like tweeked out skunks, northern lights and afghani, these three strains were often the choice plants to use in crosses too , these three strains have been crossed back and forth bottlenecked to death that their legacy is strains that have boring similar attributes and have none of the bang of their long distant relatives .
All I see in most strains now even the good amazing ones are still pretty much part of these three strains that's in my opinion .
 
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charlie garcia

like most things there is a ying and yang, cannot deny meaning or importance of Skunk#1 in a precise time at all. Nevertheless once Simon from SS long ago asked me why I didnt sell Skunk as well, my reply was easy, wasnt my job, wasnt my smoke, so its just personal pov.
best
kaiki
 

Ganja baba

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it depend wich skunk were grown. in my opinion skunk#1 is mold resistant.

All if not most sk1 that had been good for me had been prone to mould due to its high yield high flower to lead ratio , big base ball bats , sk1 to me has massive bulbous flowers long thick orange hairs super white at the start of flowering . I tend to choose the more sativa leaning ones the lighter coloured leafed ones with longer heads I do like the darker phenos and they are for sure more mould resistant , there is so much potential in skunk genes they tend to throw out amazing surprises when crossed out
 

Amynamous

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Any of you guys know the true history of northern lights ,? And I don't suppose any of the old crew had a big bud seeds kicking about I'm remaking a classics range , I have a 1 true sensi big bud but it's old and needs some vigour back but smell and taste is spot on , I have the skunks, orange ,afghan 1 , domina , northern 5 haze
The 1984 sssc seeds are being popped this week hope they germ ,

Also big bud if any one know more than what's writen ,
This thread is total porn to me thanks for taking the time to sort all your pics out and put them on here


I truly hope your 1984 SSSC seeds germinate for you. I have some late 80s Seeds, from both the original SeedBank, and oldschool Alaska MTF, from when I lived in Alaska. I did some original crosses, and have been completely unsuccessful in getting any of those seeds to germinate. If it works for you, please share your technique!
 

Manivelle

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that's what i said . it depend wich skunk we are talking about.
the madjag skunk doesn't look like base ball bats .
"skunk" just became this trough INDOOR selection for high yeild trait. (of course if it is a real pure skunk and not rework skunk crossed with something else).who knows what they are doing to sell seeds.
you should ask the old outdoor grower if their skunk is prone to mould.
 

Hashmasta-Kut

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It's probably because they are mostly sativa that's why.

That's not all there is too it. Breeder Steves' sweet skunk is slightly resistant, but that's all. It can get a bad case of pm, and its extremely sativa leaning. It is only particular sativa genetics that seem to be immune, not very many. I haven't actually heard reports of any other seemingly immune plant yet.
 

Ganja baba

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That's not all there is too it. Breeder Steves' sweet skunk is slightly resistant, but that's all. It can get a bad case of pm, and its extremely sativa leaning. It is only particular sativa genetics that seem to be immune, not very many. I haven't actually heard reports of any other seemingly immune plant yet.

Sk1 is true breeding well at one point was so probably which ever strain one of us chose for our selves had little phenotype drift , so some would never see a mould plants where as other may , you never get a strain now days that in seed form is all ways the same , meaning even if a strain is not prone to rot there will still be phenotype a that do ,
 

Ganja baba

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I truly hope your 1984 SSSC seeds germinate for you. I have some late 80s Seeds, from both the original SeedBank, and oldschool Alaska MTF, from when I lived in Alaska. I did some original crosses, and have been completely unsuccessful in getting any of those seeds to germinate. If it works for you, please share your technique!

I'm also very doubtful but it's been done before my grow buddy had order three products that help germ old seeds I'll let you know soon .
 

Elmer Bud

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That's not all there is too it. Breeder Steves' sweet skunk is slightly resistant, but that's all. It can get a bad case of pm, and its extremely sativa leaning. It is only particular sativa genetics that seem to be immune, not very many. I haven't actually heard reports of any other seemingly immune plant yet.


G`day HMK

Chimera seems to think its a Hz cross .
Renamed by Marc emery when he was low on stock ...

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

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