Round Infinity

[Blazeee]

that seems like a past life by now.... so damn much has happened since the warehouse days.

def i'm excited for the 6-18 grow, if for no other reason that testing it out... that tent is flipped and the other is ready to flip soon (probably early next week)

I still remember the first time reading your 120k thread years back when I joined up. That was some seriously mind blowing inspirational stuff back then and even now.

I think it was the first time id ever seen a huge grow on that scale, seriously eye opening stuff. I still remember that 1 pic you had of all the wires, shit looked crazy. Really great thread, i cant even begin to imagine the amount of work, effort and planning you had to put in at that spot.

Never got to say it back then but seriously great work, thats a thread i will never forget.

 

[Avinash.miles]

The 6/18 goes along with the gaslamp 12/1. Veg which would save a lot also.

been using 12 - 1 veg schedule on and off since i learned about it.... seems i get slightly more vigorous growth under 18 veg, but 12-1 is great for saving $ on power and giving plants a slightly slower veg, in my opinion.

I still remember the first time reading your 120k thread years back when I joined up. That was some seriously mind blowing inspirational stuff back then and even now.

I think it was the first time id ever seen a huge grow on that scale, seriously eye opening stuff. I still remember that 1 pic you had of all the wires, shit looked crazy. Really great thread, i cant even begin to imagine the amount of work, effort and planning you had to put in at that spot.

Never got to say it back then but seriously great work, thats a thread i will never forget.

thanks blazeeee, that was for sure a crazy time - denver was a crazy place at that point, the whole colorado weed game was in its embryonic pre-infancy...

i'll never forget that spaghetti highway of wires either - honestly that place was built out with minimal planning (which i was not involved in) but the work and efforts of setting it up and running it i became very familiar with in a short amount of time before becoming "in charge" of it.
even at the time it felt like a dream - i learned so much so fast and felt like i was experiencing something that needed to be shared with people like me - people with a passion for the cannabis plant.

prior to the warehouse experience i had used icmag as a reference, but never felt the urge to share my experiences with the plant on the forums. after running the warehouse and seeing it's rise and fall i felt like i had something solid to share with the community and after that i was just hooked on icmag i guess

honestly the project im working on right now is alot more direct and hands on for me; so much more real planning and thought for long term is going into this land i'm on now; whereas that warehouse was a quick thrown together job that was a hot quick burn; within a year of my exit the place was entirely torn down, remodeled, and turned back into what it was before the grow.

 

[Avinash.miles]

i hope farming doesn't seem mundane compared to warehouse grows....

^ layers about ready to start giving eggs, couple weeks hopefully

^^ layers not so ready to start giving eggs... couple months probably

^^ rabbits
building worm bins now to go beneath the bunnies

^ these things will knock you on (or off) your ass... reclaim dissolved in coconut oil

 

[Avinash.miles]

in the tents i've been pulling leaves and taking lower branches, managing those canopies
the 6-18 tent just got it's second level of trellis

^^left to right: nightmare cookies, the 3, cornbread, remedy x good medicine)

^^ symptom of the over-veg... got this nightmare cookies (on right with sativa looking leaves) taking off and taking over

^ the "kush bed" contains three legend og plants and one 24K White plant... this is next to the single gorilla glue plant
this tent is still vegging for another several days

^ "kush bed" canopy shot
24K white in bottom right, surrounded by legend og plants

 

[Ganoderma]

i hope farming doesn't seem mundane compared to warehouse grows....
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^ layers about ready to start giving eggs, couple weeks hopefully

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^^ layers not so ready to start giving eggs... couple months probably

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^^ rabbits
building worm bins now to go beneath the bunnies

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^ these things will knock you on (or off) your ass... reclaim dissolved in coconut oil

One Dutch, the other two look like either Rexes or Satiens (sp? been years and years since I wrote or looked at that name)

The wire you are using for the floor on those cages looks a little smaller then what I normally have seen used. You might have issues every now and again with pop build up. Speaking about pop build up those 2x4's could see some build up. Normally straw isn't placed into metal cages, it causes the pop to build up in the cage. Now if you had a cage with a solid bottom, straw would be used to line the cage. An option to give the bunnies something something to stand on in the cages, cardboard. You can pick up cardboard boxes and box tops (the ones that hold the 6 pack cans) that sores are tossing away. The bunnies will chew on the boxes. The cardboard boxes are best for winter, just cut a hole in the box and the bunnies will use it.

 

[packerfan79]

i hope farming doesn't seem mundane compared to warehouse grows....
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^ layers about ready to start giving eggs, couple weeks hopefully

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^^ layers not so ready to start giving eggs... couple months probably

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^^ rabbits
building worm bins now to go beneath the bunnies

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^ these things will knock you on (or off) your ass... reclaim dissolved in coconut oil

Not at all boring, inspiring for me. I have an autistic son, and I don't like feeding him all the processed foods and gmo veggies and fruit I want to get out in the sticks, somewhere in or around the Rockies preferably. I am sick of town living. I want to grow my own food raise animals, and get off the grid.

 

[Tbonegrower]

I dig the farm too.

The massive indoor grows are fun to read about, but I like your current direction a bit more.

 

[Avinash.miles]

One Dutch, the other two look like either Rexes or Satiens (sp? been years and years since I wrote or looked at that name)

The wire you are using for the floor on those cages looks a little smaller then what I normally have seen used. You might have issues every now and again with pop build up. Speaking about pop build up those 2x4's could see some build up. Normally straw isn't placed into metal cages, it causes the pop to build up in the cage. Now if you had a cage with a solid bottom, straw would be used to line the cage. An option to give the bunnies something something to stand on in the cages, cardboard. You can pick up cardboard boxes and box tops (the ones that hold the 6 pack cans) that sores are tossing away. The bunnies will chew on the boxes. The cardboard boxes are best for winter, just cut a hole in the box and the bunnies will use it.

thanks for the bunny tips ganoderma!
the hay is temporary, i don't have worm bins setup beneath them YET so the hay was in cages before i got them raise up on the hutches that will sit over worm bins
yer saying that if i cover the bottom of the cage with carboard... and cut a hole in the cardboard (about the size of a bunny?) then the rabbits will shit down thru the hole and not on the cardboard?

Not at all boring, inspiring for me. I have an autistic son, and I don't like feeding him all the processed foods and gmo veggies and fruit I want to get out in the sticks, somewhere in or around the Rockies preferably. I am sick of town living. I want to grow my own food raise animals, and get off the grid.

thanks pf79
def sounds like we are on the same tip, trying to get the root cellar full as hell and the pantry loaded with canned goods from the garden, freezer filled with local meats - might do some meaty chickens someday, meat rabbits perhaps even

I dig the farm too.

The massive indoor grows are fun to read about, but I like your current direction a bit more.

thanks

 

[Ganoderma]

You use the cardboard like a mat or a bed for them, so they don't have to lay on the metal floor of the cage 24/7. You don't cover the whole cage floor, just one spot. They will still pee and pop where ever in their cages.

In the winter if you take a cardboard box that you can fold the top closed and cut a hole in the box and place it into the cage, it will provide extra shelter for the bunnies in the winter.

 

[Avinash.miles]

i'll take all that into consideration as i gussy up the rabbit zone...
thanks again G

working on the small light dep GH today... trying to get it together and start sorting plants

still chopping the basement, almost ready to start emptying the kiddie pools, will add some of this recycled soil to the holes outside, some to the veggie beds, some on the beds in the tents and some in the (coming soon) worm bins
then will remove the kiddie pools, pull up plastic, remove carpet entirely, and rebuild some kind of bed in that space (i'm thinking some kind of single long wide bed that sits on pallets and some kind of catchment that goes beneath pallets hoping to setup a drip line or a soaker hose for the new bed.

have the worm bins about ready to start filling with worms and old soil (mostly castings by now) on bottom and on top rabbit poop and kashi

 

[nameless]

we talkin bunnies? ive been feeling guilty about chucking my bunny poop into the field. mine lives in our sunroom and poops in a litter box filled with cedar shavings. i dunno how the cedar shavings would compost but my plan is to have a worm bin or trench or something to chuck it into. curious to see how it goes for you.

also, imo farming is doing gods work my good man, dosent get more honest than that. i hope you go full "little house on the prairie."


pics or it didnt happen lol

 

[packerfan79]

we talkin bunnies? ive been feeling guilty about chucking my bunny poop into the field. mine lives in our sunroom and poops in a litter box filled with cedar shavings. i dunno how the cedar shavings would compost but my plan is to have a worm bin or trench or something to chuck it into. curious to see how it goes for you.

also, imo farming is doing gods work my good man, dosent get more honest than that. i hope you go full "little house on the prairie."


pics or it didnt happen lol

I always hated little house on t the prairie, but farm on buddy.

 

[Tbonegrower]

Your basement rebuild sounds pretty interesting too! A big ol' soil bed in the basement should be a really good time. How big you thinking 4'x?

How big is the lil' light dep? I have been thinking I may do something small after I manage to get a house. Nothing too big and stinky, just some good ol' light dep weed for the storage jars.

 

[Avinash.miles]

Your basement rebuild sounds pretty interesting too! A big ol' soil bed in the basement should be a really good time. How big you thinking 4'x?

How big is the lil' light dep? I have been thinking I may do something small after I manage to get a house. Nothing too big and stinky, just some good ol' light dep weed for the storage jars.

basement is 8 lights
so the soil bed will need to create a canopy that accommodates the footprint of 8 lights, maybe a 24 inches deep 60 inches wide and 12 feet long .... something like that, still not entirely sure on that

the light dep is going to be about 20 ft long 8 ft tall and 6-8 ft wide - im thinking between 12 and 20 plants could fit in the lite dep

 

[Tbonegrower]

basement is 8 lights
so the soil bed will need to create a canopy that accommodates the footprint of 8 lights, maybe a 24 inches deep 60 inches wide and 12 feet long.... something like that, still not entirely sure on that

the light dep is going to be about 20 ft long 8 ft tall and 6-8 ft wide - im thinking between 12 and 20 plants could fit in the lite dep

That is a good sized soil bed! Looking forward to that one for sure.

Sounds like the perfect amount of LD HG for just about anyone.

 

[Avinash.miles]

That is a good sized soil bed! Looking forward to that one for sure.

Sounds like the perfect amount of LD HG for just about anyone.

it is... but im already using close to 500 gallons of soil (maybe more even, but easily 475) in the kiddie pools; just makes sense to put all that soil into one bed that can be watered evenly and conditions can be more uniform & root can shoot farther without hitting the bottom or a wall.
24" x 60" x 12 feet would make 4.4 yards of soil or so, which is about 2x the amount of soil im using currently in the kiddie pools ( 2.5 cu yds - ish)


LD HG?
low-down home-growing?

 

[Avinash.miles]

big room is chopped and hanging.... what a relief

also got all of veg keeper plants transplanted up and now ready to start removing soil from the kiddie pools

 

[Tbonegrower]

LD HG?
low-down home-growing?

I am an idiot... Light Dep Green House...

some people's kids...

 

[Avinash.miles]

weed growers use so many damn acronyms...
hard to keep up

got the kiddie pools mostly emptied out today, started sorting worms for bins.... so damn many worms
put a bunch of the recycled soil from in the pools onto the outdoor holes, and watered it in to get the leftover worms happy in new homes

i have a jar of imo2 will be inoculating into 100 dry lbs of wheat bran to make imo3, then mix that into equal parts soil to make imo4 (hows that for a bunch of acronyms? IMO = indigenous micro organism, also known as BIM = beneficial indigenous microbes)
all according to the recommendations of Dr. Cho in "Global Natural Farming" pdf: https://ilcasia.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/chos-global-natural-farming-sarra.pdf

reading this JADAM book right now... recipes are super-simplistic, basically just soak crop residue in water with a few lbs (handful or 3) of leaf mold for 2 weeks - 6 months (depending on material).
one recipe for microbial inoculant is:
1kg boiled potatoes
.5 kg sea salt
.5 kg leaf mold
put that in a cloth bag, and massage the material thru the fabric into water, let that water sit for 3-5 days, un touched, no bubbles, no stirring, covered (iirc covered)
watch bubbles form, when the bubbles max out use immediately before the edges "crust" and start to decay, this is when microbes are out of food source and begin to die off (according to the JADAM book)
this recipe is called JMS, or JADAM micro-organism solution

 

[Seaf0ur]

weed growers use so many damn acronyms...
hard to keep up

got the kiddie pools mostly emptied out today, started sorting worms for bins.... so damn many worms
put a bunch of the recycled soil from in the pools onto the outdoor holes, and watered it in to get the leftover worms happy in new homes

i have a jar of imo2 will be inoculating into 100 dry lbs of wheat bran to make imo3, then mix that into equal parts soil to make imo4 (hows that for a bunch of acronyms? IMO = indigenous micro organism, also known as BIM = beneficial indigenous microbes)
all according to the recommendations of Dr. Cho in "Global Natural Farming" pdf: https://ilcasia.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/chos-global-natural-farming-sarra.pdf

reading this JADAM book right now... recipes are super-simplistic, basically just soak crop residue in water with a few lbs (handful or 3) of leaf mold for 2 weeks - 6 months (depending on material).
one recipe for microbial inoculant is:
1kg boiled potatoes
.5 kg sea salt
.5 kg leaf mold
put that in a cloth bag, and massage the material thru the fabric into water, let that water sit for 3-5 days, un touched, no bubbles, no stirring, covered (iirc covered)
watch bubbles form, when the bubbles max out use immediately before the edges "crust" and start to decay, this is when microbes are out of food source and begin to die off (according to the JADAM book)
this recipe is called JMS, or JADAM micro-organism solution

sounds legit. one thing I would do is use 5-7 coffee filters taped around the top as a lid... it will hold out much of the air, no active air movement but if the pressure in the jar rises too much, it'll allow it to escape... plus it holds off anaerobic microbes for a bit longer... its my go-to lid for things like lacto etc...