Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[GP73LPC]

In a heads up general RP has the easier win over O than mittens...

There are dems who will jump ship for RP. There are no dems jumping ship for romney. The independent and youth votes are firmly for RP. In a general it would be slaughter for poor ol O.

that's funny...

 

[itisme]

You see how he responds. He is to ignorant to deduce that I responded to him so you all didn't feel the need to waste your time doing so. Some people can't see more than one level deep into a comment.

He don't and can't talk about real issues, he is a puppet on a string and has no common sense. Can you say Establishment puppet!

 

[itisme]

Paul-led panel considers Fed abolishment bill

By Ronald D. Orol WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - A House banking committee on Tuesday is set to examine six bills including a proposal introduced by longtime Federal Reserve opponent Rep. Ron Paul that seeks to abolish the Fed. "More and more people are beginning to understand just how destructive the Federal Reserve's monetary policy has been. I hope that this hearing will kick start a serious discussion on the need to rein in the Fed," said Paul, a Texas Republican and chairman of a Financial Services subcommittee. One of the bills under consideration is Paul's Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act. Other bills seek to make changes to the central bank


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/pa...ment-bill-2012-05-04?link=MW_home_latest_news

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Stay focused, people! I hate reading petty bickering in the middle of a great thread.

 

[zymos]

You see how he responds. He is to ignorant to deduce that I responded to him so you all didn't feel the need to wast your time doing so. Some people can't see more than one level deep into a comment.

He don't and can't talk about real issues, he is a puppet on a string and has no common sense. Can you say Establishment puppet!

What the fuck are you even talking about?
You responded by saying you weren't responding, but I'm "to ignorant to deduce" that while you were responding by saying your were not responding you were actually responding to save time for other people?
Your comments are so deep they are like a black hole of stupid.

Sorry to derail y'alls thread....

 

[itisme]

Canna that is why I said what I said. I didn't want everybody responding to his irrelevant question as it has already been addressed so I reposted what he chose to ignore out of ignorance and I am posting other good info too so I drown out his nonsense. He is only here to mess up the thread.

“We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant
Posted by Dominique de Kevelioc de Bailleul on May 03, 2012 | 21 comments

In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, Wednesday, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.

“Folks, we’re getting ready for one massive economic collapse,” Hagmann told TruNews host Rick Wiles. Sign-up for my 100% FREE Alerts

“We have problems . . . The federal government is preparing for civil uprising,” he added, “so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising.”



Hagmann goes on to say that his sources tell him the concerns of the DHS stem from a collapse of the U.S. dollar and the hyperinflation a collapse in the value of the world’s primary reserve currency implies to a nation of 311 million Americans, who, for the significant portion of the population, is armed.

Uprisings in Greece is, indeed, a problem, but an uprising of armed Americans becomes a matter of serious national security, a point addressed in a recent report by the Pentagon and highlighted as a vulnerability and threat to the U.S. during war-game exercises at the Department of Defense last year, according to one of the DoD’s war-game participants, Jim Rickards, author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis.

Through his sources, Hagmann confirmed Rickards’ ongoing thesis of a fear of a U.S. dollar collapse at the hands of the Chinese (U.S. treasury bond holders of approximately $1 trillion) and, possibly, the Russians (threatening to launch a gold-backed ruble as an attractive alternative to the U.S. dollar) in retaliation for aggressive U.S. foreign policy initiatives against China’s and Russia’s strategic allies Iran and Syria.

“The one source that we have I’ve known since 1979,” Hagmann continued. “He started out as a patrol officer and currently he is now working for a federal agency under the umbrella of the Department of Homeland Security; he’s in a position to know what policies are being initiated, what policies are being planned at this point, and he’s telling us right now—look, what you’re seeing is just the tip of the iceberg. We are preparing, we, meaning the government, we are preparing for a massive civil war in this country.”

“There’s no hyperbole here,” he added, echoing Trends Research Institute’s Founder Gerald Celente’s forecast of last year. Celente expects a collapse of the U.S. dollar and riots in America some time this year.

Since Celente’s ‘Civil War’ prediction of last year, executive orders NDAA and National Defense Resources Preparedness were signed into law by President Obama, which are both politically damaging actions taken by a sitting president.

And most recently, requests made by the DHS for the procurement of 450 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition only fuels speculation of an upcoming tragic event expected on American soil.

These major events, as shocking to the American people as they are, have taken place during an election year.

Escalating preparatory activities by the executive branch and DHS throughout the last decade—from the Patriot Act, to countless executive orders drafted to suspend (or strip) American civil liberties “are just the beginning” of the nightmare to come, Hagmann said.

He added, “It’s going to get so much worse toward the election, and I’m not even sure we’re going to have an election in this country. It’s going to be that bad, and this, as well, is coming from my sources. But one source in particular said, ‘look, you don’t understand how bad it is.’ This stuff is real; these people, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), they are ready to fight the American people.”

TruNews‘ Wiles asked Hagmann: who does the DHS expect to fight, in particular? Another North versus South, the Yankees against the Confederates? Hagmann stated the situation is far worse than a struggle between any two factions within the U.S.; it’s an anticipated nationwide emergency event centered on the nation’s currency.

“What they [DHS] are expecting, and again, this is according to my sources, what they’re expecting is the un-sustainability of the American dollar,” Hagmann said. “And we know for a fact that we can no longer service our debt. There’s going to be a period of hyperinflation . . . the dollar will be worthless . . . The economic collapse will be so severe, people won’t be ready for this.” Sign-up for my 100% FREE Alerts


Read more: http://www.beaconequity.com/we-are-...-says-dhs-informant-2012-05-03/#ixzz1tudMlLQ7

 

[dagnabit]

that's funny...

In every joke inhabits truth....

RP gets every vote mittens would get.
RP gets the independent votes.
RP gets the youth vote.
RP gets the libertarian vote.
RP gets some dems crossing over.


Slaughter for poor ol O.

 

[zymos]

What you say makes sense to me too, yet is not born out by polling data, for whatever that is worth.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_obama-1750.html
In fact, the average of a couple dozen polls shows Obama winning by 8.6%.

Never gonna happen anyway though, sorry....

 

[bentom187]

New jihad false flag attacks on smokey the bear,im not kidding.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-calls-massive-forest-fires-montana/t/story?id=16263981

 

[zymos]

New jihad false flag attacks on smokey the bear,im not kidding.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-calls-massive-forest-fires-montana/t/story?id=16263981

I wouldn't worry too much about that, cause some guy called bentom posted "Al-Qaeda Does Not Exist !! - Former CIA Officer Michael Scheuer Speaks Out !!" yesterday....

 

[bentom187]

thats why its a false flag attack.

 

[monkey5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3W8Z5wdAnc&feature=player_embedded .. Here's a real one!! Video says that Dr. Ron Paul is winning & shows exactly why he is winning!! Great stuff! monkey5

 

[trichrider]

 

[monkey5]

Here is some thing I came accross that does'nt look good at all! Here: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/what-is-scytl-why-should-you-be-very-very-concerned .. Thank you all for looking! monkey5

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Joe Rogan and Ron Paul, two of my favorite people!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVVVrVDVaZo&feature=relmfu

 

[ShroomDr]

itsme youre schizophrenic in this though process..

Paul-led panel considers Fed abolishment bill

The only reason he has to do this is BECAUSE the GOP apposes auditing the FED. If there was only opposition from one side, there would be no need for a panel...

He can start as many panels as he wants, (as president appoint a blue ribbon panel to investigate) bottom line he needs congressional approval, and he wont get it...

Its the exact same flawed thought process where you lump me in as brainwashed by the MSM, even though they certainly dont lay down a plausible path for a RP presidency, when i clearly do.

You ask for sources to ideas that are rarely spoken about outside of a constitutional law class. You cant 'poo poo' my ideas as MSM garbage when the MSM doesnt even want to acknowledge its existence.

When New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes make it a 'swing state', a three horse race is the wrench this (flawed) political machine needs. (incumbents are too kushy, and Romney bought the fucking nomination) I just cant comprehend why these facts dont register, they are very beneficial for RP.


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[trem0lo]

Ron Paul delegate strategy is perfectly legitimate

Ron Paul delegate strategy is perfectly legitimate

http://communities.washingtontimes....-paul-delegate-strategy-perfectly-legitimate/

TAMPA, May 3, 2012 – For at least a month, the media have been ignoring compelling evidence that Ron Paul is doing much better in the Republican nomination race than he did in the primary/caucus popular votes. In their hurry to write the general election narrative, the media have forgotten to perform their primary function: to report the facts. The facts are that Ron Paul has won at least two states and will likely win more.

Now that Paul’s success is impossible to ignore, the media are writing a new narrative. Headlines like “Ron Paul’s stealth state convention takeover” and “Ron Paul People Playing Mischief with Delegates” indicate that instead of ignoring Paul’s victories, they now seek to imply that there is something sneaky or unfair about them. Some even suggest that his delegate success in states where he did not win the popular vote may even (gasp!) “undermine democracy.”

Undermining democracy would be a good thing. If there is anything we have too much of in 21st century America; it’s democracy. The United States flourished as a free and prosperous society largely because it was founded as a republic. The reason for the bicameral legislature, the separation of powers, and the other so-called “checks and balances” was to protect us from democracy, which James Madison called “the most vile form of government.”

Based upon the belief that government “even in its best state, is but a necessary evil,” the American republic was built to check the will of the majority whenever it wished to confer more power on the government. That’s why there are two houses in Congress. In a democracy, there would be only one. Even after the House passes a law, it then has to pass the Senate, which originally represented the state governments, not the people. The 17th Amendment removed this important check on the power of the federal government.

Even after passing both houses of Congress, a law has to represent exercise of one of the few powers granted to the legislature in the Constitution. If it does not, it can be struck down regardless of the wishes of the majority. If the people want to give the government a new power, they have to complete an even more difficult constitutional amendment process.

That’s how it is supposed to work. That we ignore the Constitution and instead function virtually as a pure democracy is why we have a bankrupt government that spends almost $4 trillion a year and regulates everything from the food we eat to the amount of water in our toilets.

In our republic, passing laws, levying taxes, and conferring power are supposed to be difficult. So is the electoral process. It’s not supposed to be easy to elect someone. It’s supposed to be very hard. In a pure democracy, it’s easy and the individual is at the mercy of the demagogue and the mob, which can trample his liberty and loot his wealth at its whim. Republican government attempts to protect us from this.

It also attempts to protect us from voter ignorance. Anthony Gregory reports that polls have shown 71% of Americans believe that Iran already has nuclear weapons, “just as 70 percent of Americans polled once thought Saddam was behind 9/11, though Bush never made this claim.” These Americans vote for presidents and congresses that will take us to war based upon these misconceptions.

Often, voter ignorance of the candidates and issues is even worse.

Ron Paul’s strategy takes advantage of the republican nature of the nomination process. That process does not rely purely on a popular vote to determine who will be the nominee. Instead, voters must go through a multi-tiered vetting process of successive elections in order to become a delegate to the RNC.

This does not remove all of the dangers inherent in a pure democracy, but it helps. At least a delegate has been forced to hear the arguments of other candidates before blindly casting a vote. He also must have the commitment necessary to endure the long delegate selection process.

That the process is republican rather than democratic does not disenfranchise anyone. Everyone has an equal opportunity to become a delegate. Everyone has an equal opportunity to read the rules. That supporters of some candidates choose not to go through the process does not “nullify their wishes.” That they choose not to become informed on how candidates are actually nominated does not represent a deception. On the contrary, the whole process is intentionally designed to ensure that uninformed or uncommitted people do not directly choose the nominee.

Neither is Paul’s strategy underhanded or “sneaky.” He has made it clear since the beginning of his campaign that he was going to concentrate on the caucus states where he believed that his strong grassroots organization and more devoted following would win him delegates. He predicted his delegate victories in states where he did not win the popular vote months in advance and now those predictions are coming true. How can anyone say that they didn’t know what was going on?

Early in this election cycle, the media repeated ad nauseum that Ron Paul could not win the nomination. That affected his performance in popular votes. They never suggested this about any of the other nine candidates, eight of which are now out. Then, they repeated ad nauseum that Ron Paul had not won any states, even though he had. Now, they attempt to cast aspersions on those wins with spurious arguments about their legitimacy.

Methinks the media doth protest too much. What about Ron Paul are they so afraid of?

 

[bentom187]

Here is some thing I came accross that does'nt look good at all! Here: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/what-is-scytl-why-should-you-be-very-very-concerned .. Thank you all for looking! monkey5

good find M5 .

 

[ShroomDr]

"Al-Qaeda Does Not Exist !! - Former CIA Officer Michael Scheuer Speaks Out !!

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This is pretty idiotic and irresponsible too.

Al Qaeda was de-funded, and removed from their safe harbor by Nov 2001. There ability to effective wage terrorism was ended..

But our stay in Afghanistan, and move into Iraq has certainly inspired many more jihadist, under the 'overall' banner of Al Qaeda.

A whole bunch of Bin Laden papers were released ~48 hours ago, pretty interesting stuff, he was upset with the Times Square bomber for taking the oath as an american citizen, and then breaking the oath (part of oath is to protect fellow citizens)... LOL... religion...

OBL's group is/was in tatters, we no longer fight Al Queda as much as we fight 'Pashtun nationalist' in Afghanistan, but to say it is no longer in existence... thats a GIANT leap.. Many other crackpots have picked up the flag..

 

[itisme]

thats why its a false flag attack.

LOL

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