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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?
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Just remember it isn't an US vs THEM mentality or shouldn't be. For one, romney is an American as are those who support him. The same could be said about Obama and his supporters (don't get started on that birth cert shit lol).
We are all Americans with different opinions, well in this forum we are all HUMANS with different opinions but specific to this thread our MORAL COMPASS as a country is off just as it is off in most if not all other countries as well.
I have been a Ron Paul supporter since 2007 but the way in which I understand his views has changed drastically over the years. I used to think that we should be able to live and do as we want just as long as it doesn't harm or affect others.
What I have learned more recently is that while we should have the ability to live and do as we please we should however WANT to live a better life, helping others and actually making REAL CHANGE around us to benefit those around us who are less fortunate. To eat healthy and treat our bodies well.
You want to remove the aid, the hand outs, the wars, WE AS HUMANS need to step it up. Yes I think there are those who have so much wealth that they COULD share it with plenty of other people but why hate on the rich whether they were born with it or built it up theirselves. If they are good people then I think they will end up wanting to help out others and no that does not mean paying more taxes to do their fair share which is a bullshit arguement btw.
We have wealthy complaining about those taking handouts and we have those taking handouts bitching at the rich people and all their money.
Why we are fighting over pieces of paper is beyond me BUT if you actually get to the basics we really do not need a ton of money to live and be happy.
Food Shelter Friends Family
Most have at least 2 of the above right off the bat BUT instead of focusing on the new iphone, ipad, video game, latest shoes why not focus on the stuff that really matters and it is not working 40 hour work weeks waiting for that week vacation.
We need to get passed the ford vs. chevy mentality. I used to support the mccains and other moronic war toating republicans and back then I was just as American as I am today. It shouldn't matter who you support, being American however gives us the ability to be able to support ANYONE we decide to.
Will someone like Ron Paul get elected President however? The government is a reflection of the people and right now everyone is in a ME ME ME mentality so no I don't see that happening. Once we can start talking about why welfare and war are BOTH wrong then we might be onto something but no one wants to fix either of those VERY RELATED issues.
medmaker
First of all that is the problem in AMERICA today. If you point out how somebody is wrong they call you UNAmerican! Pointing out that ShroomDr is wroing has nothing to do with ford/chevy mentality. HE IS WRONG IN WHAT HE SAID! I never implied RP did wrong or immoral as he keeps restating and his point that he did is incorrect.
Your last statements implies a FORD/CHEVY mentality you acuse me of. U must me talking to him.
ShroomDr
Because all I was stating is what you said!
Originally Posted by itisme
First of all that is the problem in AMERICA today. If you point out how somebody is wrong they call you UNAmerican! Pointing out that ShroomDr is wroing has nothing to do with ford/chevy mentality. HE IS WRONG IN WHAT HE SAID! I never implied RP did wrong or immoral as he keeps restating and his point that he did is incorrect.
Your last statements implies a FORD/CHEVY mentality you acuse me of. U must me talking to him.
ShroomDr
Because all I was stating is what you said!
Originally Posted by itisme
The CRONIES I referred to were not people that placed votes but people and organizations that have been busted for stealing the election (I.E. the FRAUD LINKS I POSTED) ShroomDr. keeps making some feeble attempt to imply Ron Paul has done something immoral in his approach and that is insane if you are being objective and looking at who is stealing what!!!
What? How is that?
This and most of the stuff I agree with. What makes you think I am not like that?
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itisme
yeah I just wrote that first paragraph to you about us all including romney being Americans. The rest was just in response to the thread itself. I guess I should have stated the redirection after writing that first part.
Either way it looks like you understood that but was just wondering.
Now on your sig quote, let me explain that for you as well.
Back in the day I felt like Ron Paul meant running around doing anything you please as long as you don't infringe on anothers rights to do the same. Now however I have realized that it isn't simply living as you choose but rather wanting to live a better life even if you have the right to do anything you choose.
You want liberty to shine in our elected officials it first must shine within the people. We need to show what a liberty loving America is all about and back in 2007 all I was thinking about was MY RIGHT to smoke weed, own guns and live as I WANTED.
So the way I understand Ron Paul today versus 2007 is different. It isn't a bad thing but rather a personal realization that I need to live better, treat others better and do better if I ever want others to understand why electing someone like Ron Paul is so important.
Just seeing us screaming RON PAUL at them on street corners while wearing LEGALIZE WEED shirts really doesn't portray exactly what Ron Paul is trying to get across even though we have the right to participate in the grassroots however we see fit. Some are beneficial and most is counterproductive BUT both are going to coexist indeed.
yeah I just wrote that first paragraph to you about us all including romney being Americans. The rest was just in response to the thread itself. I guess I should have stated the redirection after writing that first part.
Either way it looks like you understood that but was just wondering.
Now on your sig quote, let me explain that for you as well.
Back in the day I felt like Ron Paul meant running around doing anything you please as long as you don't infringe on anothers rights to do the same. Now however I have realized that it isn't simply living as you choose but rather wanting to live a better life even if you have the right to do anything you choose.
You want liberty to shine in our elected officials it first must shine within the people. We need to show what a liberty loving America is all about and back in 2007 all I was thinking about was MY RIGHT to smoke weed, own guns and live as I WANTED.
So the way I understand Ron Paul today versus 2007 is different. It isn't a bad thing but rather a personal realization that I need to live better, treat others better and do better if I ever want others to understand why electing someone like Ron Paul is so important.
Just seeing us screaming RON PAUL at them on street corners while wearing LEGALIZE WEED shirts really doesn't portray exactly what Ron Paul is trying to get across even though we have the right to participate in the grassroots however we see fit. Some are beneficial and most is counterproductive BUT both are going to coexist indeed.
That is a great breakdown and exactly how MSM use Ron Paul's FREEDOM views to bring up Nazis, KKK, Racial newsletters, the Youth only want to so they can smoke weed. I am glad to hear how you have grown as I am trying to grow everyday too.
I don't want Ron Paul only because of weed but that is a massive plus. I wondered why he wanted to reduce the EPA, FDA, elminate HUD, BoE, DoE...So I researched each thing and found out about all the UN Agenda 21 and EPA connections. Then I learned of the FDA raiding the Amish Raw Milk farmer. DNR raiding Small pig farmers in Michicigan. DoE was an ez one as RP kills them. DoE same thing. HUD was easy enought o figure since the colapse.
The DEA, IRS, CIA, FBI, FEMA, DHS and all of Alphabet soup was all part of the master plan to drain America of its resources and freedoms. This guys said it in 1958 and it al all true. These agencies are a way to put their cronies in charge and drain our pockets at the same time. My buddy said taxes wern't higher Income tax but then I said if you only look at INCOME TAX that may be true but if you look at all the others hidden and overt taxes we pay much higher taxes.
Mind blowing speech by Robert Welch in 1958 predicting Insiders plans to destroy America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZU0c8DAIU4
ron paul just won massachussetts
a voter reported his experience at his DC on the RP forum:
"Things went so well, that as we were leaving, a Romney lady was pointing at us (Ron Paul supporters) and saying "I HATE THEM! I HATE YOU! YOU ARE RUINING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!"
HAHAHA, no joke"
a voter reported his experience at his DC on the RP forum:
"Things went so well, that as we were leaving, a Romney lady was pointing at us (Ron Paul supporters) and saying "I HATE THEM! I HATE YOU! YOU ARE RUINING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!"
HAHAHA, no joke"
looks like we won alaska http://www.dailypaul.com/229609/victory-in-alaska as well as louisiana http://www.dailypaul.com/229567/ron-paul-wins-louisiana and massachussetts http://www.dailypaul.com/229515/sweeping-in-massachusetts
AWSOME!
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SacredBreh
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I like this post... Dr. Paul wants the same!
I like this post... Dr. Paul wants the same!
Thinking legislating a moral compass is going to work is like trying to teach pigs manners.
Have you done something good just because you wanted too? Now, have you done something good because you had too? Yep,
different feeling entirely!
What went wrong in corporations is people quit doing "the right thing for the right reason" and started doing what ever was legal.
Dr. Paul believes in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!
I like this post... Dr. Paul wants the same!
Thinking legislating a moral compass is going to work is like trying to teach pigs manners.
Have you done something good just because you wanted too? Now, have you done something good because you had too? Yep,
different feeling entirely!
What went wrong in corporations is people quit doing "the right thing for the right reason" and started doing what ever was legal.
Dr. Paul believes in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!
SacredBreh
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Right on bentom and Itisme. I understand ShroomDR point but think he is dead wrong on this one. If you are playing poker with guys using a stacked deck, you would be an idiot to not try to beat them at their own game.
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trem0lo
I just came here to post this. Looks like we're taking many more delegates than expected. Yet the blackout continues. Why is there not a peep about this from the media?
The single most awakening experience from 2008 I had was when the continued blackout of Ron Paul shattered my trust in mainstream media. Anything I read in the paper or head on the TV or radio I suddenly came to question. If they're lying about politics, how much more are they capable of lying about?
The way that MSM covers Ron Paul is so blatantly biased, assuming they cover him at all it pathetic. That is exactly what woke me up too bro! EXACTLY, that is one reason RP keeps doing this. He is exposing the truth and he only became a politican because he knew they wanted unfuned wars with fake currency. I think that is why I feel so obligated to try and tell everybody I see know to not trust MSM and do their own research. I find it silly how some poeple try to discredit a youtube clip (Directly attributed to OBAMA/BUSH) when they use CNN, FOX, or and MSM source as evidence. I think nearly any random poster on youtube is much more trustworthy than MSM.
bushdoctor215
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Is Chico, UC Berkely or UCLA anywhere near RP`s congressional district? Or any of the other states he speaks? I Don`t agree with you on most things about RP but to inply that the only reason the Texas rallies are packed is because it`s his home state is just ignorant. Good luck with your statist opinion, you are going to need it...
Ron Paul Wins Louisiana Caucus
Wins four and a half of six congressional district caucuses, securing 111 of 150 or 74 percent of delegates elected yesterday to the state convention
LAKE JACKSON, Texas, Apr 29, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Supporters of 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul won yesterday's Louisiana caucus, securing an overwhelming majority of winnable delegates to the June Republican state convention that will affect the weight of the Paul delegation to the August Republican National Convention in Tampa.
Preliminary results from the Louisiana Republican Party indicate that Ron Paul supporters won majorities in Congressional Districts 1, 2, 5, and 6, with a narrow decision having occurred in District 4. This means Ron Paul supporters won about four and a half of the six Congressional District caucus conventions held yesterday.
In each CD the top 25 delegates will go to the state convention on June 2nd in Shreveport. Yesterday, 111 out of 150 or 74 percent of delegates elected today were in fact Ron Paul delegates. The Louisiana state GOP soon will award 30 additional delegates.
A "conservative slate" ran a partially combined slate with establishment-moderate Mitt Romney in CDs 1, 2 and 4. In each of those districts Ron Paul supporters required more votes than all of their opponents combined. Remarkably, supporters of the 12-term Congressman from Texas accomplished this in CDs 1 and 2, but fell just short of this in CD 4, which is why the decision was split.
Taken together, victories across four and half CDs mean that Ron Paul supporters are likely to control the outcome of the state convention in June.
To be sure, a win on this scale gives Ron Paul supporters a majority of yesterday's elected delegates and the ability to choose most of the at-large delegates, as well as the three National Delegates from CDs 1, 2, 5, and 6.
The Ron Paul campaign's Louisiana State Director Pete Chamberlain said of the victory, "Yesterday's result shows the changing dynamic among grassroots conservative activists dedicated to promoting a Republican platform that adheres to the Constitutional values Dr. Paul represents. Back-room dealing and insider politics are no match for the grassroots enthusiasm that is the hallmark of the Ron Paul campaign. Yesterday, Ron Paul's dedicated Louisiana supporters showed what passionate, persistent activism can achieve when centered around a consistent message of freedom and prosperity."
"Ron Paul's victory shows his delegate-attainment strategy is working and demonstrates that the media and Washington pundits are underestimating his influence in the nominating process," said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Manager John Tate.
"The Louisiana win forecasts a prominent role for Ron Paul at the RNC. It also signals that the convention will feature a spirited discussion over whether conservatism will triumph over the status quo, all in relation to the end game of defeating President Obama," added Mr. Tate.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-paul-wins-louisiana-caucus-2012-04-29
Wins four and a half of six congressional district caucuses, securing 111 of 150 or 74 percent of delegates elected yesterday to the state convention
LAKE JACKSON, Texas, Apr 29, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Supporters of 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul won yesterday's Louisiana caucus, securing an overwhelming majority of winnable delegates to the June Republican state convention that will affect the weight of the Paul delegation to the August Republican National Convention in Tampa.
Preliminary results from the Louisiana Republican Party indicate that Ron Paul supporters won majorities in Congressional Districts 1, 2, 5, and 6, with a narrow decision having occurred in District 4. This means Ron Paul supporters won about four and a half of the six Congressional District caucus conventions held yesterday.
In each CD the top 25 delegates will go to the state convention on June 2nd in Shreveport. Yesterday, 111 out of 150 or 74 percent of delegates elected today were in fact Ron Paul delegates. The Louisiana state GOP soon will award 30 additional delegates.
A "conservative slate" ran a partially combined slate with establishment-moderate Mitt Romney in CDs 1, 2 and 4. In each of those districts Ron Paul supporters required more votes than all of their opponents combined. Remarkably, supporters of the 12-term Congressman from Texas accomplished this in CDs 1 and 2, but fell just short of this in CD 4, which is why the decision was split.
Taken together, victories across four and half CDs mean that Ron Paul supporters are likely to control the outcome of the state convention in June.
To be sure, a win on this scale gives Ron Paul supporters a majority of yesterday's elected delegates and the ability to choose most of the at-large delegates, as well as the three National Delegates from CDs 1, 2, 5, and 6.
The Ron Paul campaign's Louisiana State Director Pete Chamberlain said of the victory, "Yesterday's result shows the changing dynamic among grassroots conservative activists dedicated to promoting a Republican platform that adheres to the Constitutional values Dr. Paul represents. Back-room dealing and insider politics are no match for the grassroots enthusiasm that is the hallmark of the Ron Paul campaign. Yesterday, Ron Paul's dedicated Louisiana supporters showed what passionate, persistent activism can achieve when centered around a consistent message of freedom and prosperity."
"Ron Paul's victory shows his delegate-attainment strategy is working and demonstrates that the media and Washington pundits are underestimating his influence in the nominating process," said Ron Paul 2012 National Campaign Manager John Tate.
"The Louisiana win forecasts a prominent role for Ron Paul at the RNC. It also signals that the convention will feature a spirited discussion over whether conservatism will triumph over the status quo, all in relation to the end game of defeating President Obama," added Mr. Tate.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-paul-wins-louisiana-caucus-2012-04-29
No, you would be an idiot to listen to the guy tell you he wont cheat like them, WHEN HE IS CHEATING LIKE THEM.
I have no problem with his tactics, I LOVE MACHIAVELLI, just dont tell me a spade is not a spade.
Ron Paul is not cheating. 'stacking the deck' is not a good analogy, but i understand why its used. But... to only go after 'the second vote' is certainly not THE MOST DEMOCRATIC way (and saying Romney is 'buying it' is not a defense FOR DR PAUL).
Two wrongs do not make a right (in a just/Cicero's world). The world Ron Paul claims to defend.
Call me crazy, but i think preachers should follow their words, and be up front about shit (even though i know 98% of preachers dont qualify).
Ron Paul claims to be the shining light of the people, but he is just another politician with a slightly different approach to the presidency.
You cant claim to be above political games, when you are playing one yourself.
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Collecting DELEGATES legally is not cheating. Take the RED PILL and wake!
This is cheating. I'll be waiting on your evidencr RON PAUL is cheating. Other than your ill informed and either ignorant or biased opinion.
More Ron Paul Election Fraud 4-22-12 KCGOP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDdThDgLFa8
More Vote Fraud - Georgia • Must See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g60TsnC9-u8
FRAUD Voting SC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1A4CKYFpLs&feature=related
Voter Fraud in Nevada 2012 GOP Caucus!!! 2/5/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJuvZLjFuw
Uncut NH Voter Fraud Investigation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taO8MPP94HU
Pick a state, any state. YOUTUBE IOWA and see who won? Romney, Santorm, NO ACTUALLY RON PAUL!!! Every single state can be found. So where is your evidence that RP is cheating other than your feeble attempt to call collecting delegates legally, cheating.
http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....57437.59357.0.77900.6.6.0.0.0.0.50.244.6.6.0.
You information of voter fraud is CHEATING and that is what ROMNEY IS DOING!!!
RON PAUL is collecting delegates by Freedom Loving Americans and that is not the same thing! I don't care how many times you keep restating it. YOU'RE WRONG!
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bushdoctor215
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[Hey ShroomDr,Who ever said that Dr. Paul wanted to be the MOST DEMOCRATIC politician? In case you forgot, The USA is supposed to be a Republic. Not a democracy. When 50.1% of the population can tell 49.9% how to live their lives it`s not freedom. Far f`ing from it. To quote Benjamin Frankin " Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what`s for dinner. A republic is 2 wolves and a very well armed lamb voting on whats for dinner". Get it mr. wolf? How is that not fair for everyone involved? That is what RP stands for. INDIVIDUAL rights for EVERYONE!!!
quote=ShroomDr;5089971]No, you would be an idiot to listen to the guy tell you he wont cheat like them, WHEN HE IS CHEATING LIKE THEM.
I have no problem with his tactics, I LOVE MACHIAVELLI, just dont tell me a spade is not a spade.
Ron Paul is not cheating. 'stacking the deck' is not a good analogy, but i understand why its used. But... to only go after 'the second vote' is certainly not THE MOST DEMOCRATIC way (and saying Romney is 'buying it' is not a defense FOR DR PAUL).
Two wrongs do not make a right (in a just/Cicero's world). The world Ron Paul claims to defend.
Call me crazy, but i think preachers should follow their words, and be up front about shit (even though i know 98% of preachers dont qualify).
Ron Paul claims to be the shining light of the people, but he is just another politician with a slightly different approach to the presidency.
You cant claim to be above political games, when you are playing one yourself.
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quote=ShroomDr;5089971]No, you would be an idiot to listen to the guy tell you he wont cheat like them, WHEN HE IS CHEATING LIKE THEM.
I have no problem with his tactics, I LOVE MACHIAVELLI, just dont tell me a spade is not a spade.
Ron Paul is not cheating. 'stacking the deck' is not a good analogy, but i understand why its used. But... to only go after 'the second vote' is certainly not THE MOST DEMOCRATIC way (and saying Romney is 'buying it' is not a defense FOR DR PAUL).
Two wrongs do not make a right (in a just/Cicero's world). The world Ron Paul claims to defend.
Call me crazy, but i think preachers should follow their words, and be up front about shit (even though i know 98% of preachers dont qualify).
Ron Paul claims to be the shining light of the people, but he is just another politician with a slightly different approach to the presidency.
You cant claim to be above political games, when you are playing one yourself.
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Its not cheating. I said the 'card cheat' was a bad analogy.
Getting your supporters installed as "Romney delegates" is less than 100% democratic. It is underhanded, it is backdoor, it is legal, but it is at best gaming the system.
Dr Paul is not above the political game, even though he claims to be. This is my only objection.
If his fanatics would realized this, they would be much more useful. Your 600 links to 'youtube voter fraud' is not winning anyone over.
Its not worth reading how Ron Paul was screwed out of Massachusetts primary BECAUSE THAT IS ROMNEY"S HOME STATE.
Everyone (sans Gore) wins their home state (and even Gore beat Bradley in the primary), spouting such nonsense does nothing for your cause, and only diminishes every other statement youve made.
You can win power and control in a democracy without using democratic principles. There are glaring historical examples of this in the 20th century.
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