Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[zymos]

you go to a trial by jury with your doctor saying there was a medical neccesity to abort the fetus wich would be understandable if there in fact was.

OK already has a "fetal personhood" law, it was narrowly aborted (pun intended) in VA, and I believe in the works in other states.

Do you honestly believe that a fertilized embryo composed of a dozen cells is somehow a "person" ?! You keep equating "baby" with " fetus"....

Until men can risk there own health and lives gestating and delivering a baby, "pro-life" males shouldn't even get a say on the issue...

 

[bentom187]

OK already has a "fetal personhood" law, it was narrowly aborted (pun intended) in VA, and I believe in the works in other states.

Do you honestly believe that a fertilized embryo composed of a dozen cells is somehow a "person" ?!

Until men can risk there own health and lives gestating and delivering a baby, "pro-life" males shouldn't even get a say on the issue...

it is life espeacially if its fertalized,that is in its formative stage of developing a human body.it doesnt have a name but its alive otherwise it wouldnt move or repoorduce cells or consume resources.

what im saying is that neither of the parents should be killing anything reguardless of who has the baby,unless its was a result of a crime and or a medical emergencey and this is supposed to be the case leagley speaking.

i have made the moral/leagle and scientific argument im not sure what else i could say if this hasnt convinced you im not sure i can.

 

[dagnabit]

Take the abortion talk to a thread where it is relevant please?

We have been warned to keep this thread on track...

 

[whodare]

OK already has a "fetal personhood" law, it was narrowly aborted (pun intended) in VA, and I believe in the works in other states.

Making puns about abortion, classy

Do you honestly believe that a fertilized embryo composed of a dozen cells is somehow a "person" ?!

If I punch my pregnant girl in the stomach(even with consent) it becomes a human in the eyes of the law...

Talk about having both ways.

Until men can risk there own health and lives gestating and delivering a baby, "pro-life" males shouldn't even get a say on the issue...

Have safe sex if you don't want the responsibility of a child, but it isn't 100% and people should know this going in.


Actions in life have consequences murder is no way to solve them.

 

[SpasticGramps]

I'm not sure, but I think you should be able to abort small children, if they're not properly behaved.

May as well abort the parents too.

/sarc

 

[whodare]

Back on topic look at these jerkoffs try and smear a family man...

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/22/10815960-paul-campaign-condemns-watchdog-report-alleging-nepotism

Paul campaign condemns watchdog report alleging nepotism
By NBC's Anthony Terrell

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Texas Rep. Ron Paul's campaign is pushing back against charges of nepotism leveled by a new study published by a political watchdog group.

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) published a report report, titled “Family Affair,” outlining instances in which 248 members of Congress allegedly used their positions to benefit their families during the 2008 and 2010 election cycles.

The report highlighted the Paul family as one such example.

“There are, of course, members who stand out. Rep. Ron Paul’s campaign (R-TX) paid six relatives salaries or fees, the most of any member," the report read.

The report details payments made to Paul’s family members as well as reimbursements made to relatives. Paul is listed in the report’s key findings as the number four congressman who paid “the most money in salaries and fees to family members” ($304,599) and number two on the list of representatives “reimbursing family members the most money” ($47,421).

Ron Paul’s 2012 campaign chairman and grandson-in-law Jesse Benton, who is listed in the report (Page 306), responded to NBC News in a written statement that “this so-called report is a sad attempt by a group of beltway insiders trying to grab cheap headlines.”

“Dr. Paul's campaigns and organizations have raised over $100 million dollars during the last five years, and employed many hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Family members have received a tiny fraction of one percent of jobs and salaries. Everything that Dr. Paul has done in Politics is 100 percent above board and any insinuation otherwise is completely off base," he said.

CREW notes at the end of the report that “many of the financial arrangements uncovered during this project are legal.” The group’s executive director, Melanie Sloan, responded that Paul has not violated any laws or House rules but said campaign contributors have “no idea” their donations will be given to family members.

“It’s a nice way to transfer wealth,” Ms. Sloan said while pointing out Mr. Benton’s relationship with the Paul family. "The American people don’t expect [politics] to be a family business."

 

[monkey5]

Your the "Man" for that statement!! Lol..

Your the "Man" for that statement!! Lol..

May as well abort the parents too.

/sarc

~~ Your the "Man" for that statement!! Lol.. And I like your Avitar too! Lol..monkey5

 

[monkey5]

All this abortion talk is making me randy. I need to go impregnate some bitches and make them get abortions.... I'll be wearing my tux out tonight

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~~ Hash Zeppelin, It is posts like this one..WITH THE PICTURE that is when I am glad I smoke cannibas!! Lol.. Makes me chill! Lol..I laugh so hard sometimes!! You have no idea! Makes my cheeks hurt! Lol.. monkey5

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Lets stop talking about this. worry about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC6_sLyjphY

The abortion argument is just being thrown out to distract us from Obama Signing the Executive Order - National Defense Resources Preparedness

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

ok one more on the abortion argument. I could not resist



other captions

-It's the notorious b.i.g. reincarnated as the notorious c.a.t. (cause that cat is fucking fat and has 4 ladies)

-what a view from down there

-polygamy or bestiality? you decide

-cat scratch fever

-poor cat must be confused during that time of the month. he says "I know there iza mouse up there. I can seez da tail and smellz da blood. juz lemme do my job and killz it."
^if you dont get that one then I dont know if you are ready for me to explain it to you.

 

[dagnabit]

My wife hates when I describe her time as "with a short fuse"

 

[SpasticGramps]

Lets stop talking about this. worry about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC6_sLyjphY

The abortion argument is just being thrown out to distract us from Obama Signing the Executive Order - National Defense Resources Preparedness

Patriot Act, NDAA, now this. Other president's have signed similar executive orders, but not quite on this magnitude.

Pretty f'ing insane when you add it all up. A couple of people of work were talking about it.

Now all we need is a crisis............

 

[SacredBreh]

Abortion is a personal choice... God gave us FREE WILL.

Abortion is a personal choice... God gave us FREE WILL.

God's overriding law is FREE WILL. Use it wisely.

Taking a person off life support is not much different but that is just MHO. Oh, yeah.. have you done it? I have many, many, many times!



I am anti-abortion for myself and my loved one, we would decide together. God is PRO-CHOICE....... or by another name FREE WILL. I do not judge others I only decide what is right for me.

That is why Dr. Ron Paul is my candidate of choice, he may not agree with my choices, but he will defend my FREEDOM to make a choice.




Peace

 

[SacredBreh]

You are right Spastic........ crazy shit!

You are right Spastic........ crazy shit!

Last time something of this magnitude was enacted was WWI and the Civil War. Patriot Act, NDAA, now this.

Pretty f'ing insane. A couple of people of work were talking about it. Not a peep of it in the MSM, big surprise.

Now all we need is a crisis............

Once, again I will say it, "They would not be invoking executive orders or passing laws like the NDAA, if they were not going to be used."

Peace

 

[MostHigh]

Ron Paul tops list of House members whose campaigns paid families $3.1 million

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/22/ron-paul-tops-list-of-house-members-whose-campaigns-paid-families-3-1-million/

 

[bentom187]

Patrick henry's speach anniversery march 23rd!!!

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[CannaBunkerMan]

Ron Paul tops list of House members whose campaigns paid families $3.1 million

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/...rs-whose-campaigns-paid-families-3-1-million/

Who cares? I think this is just another example of RP trying to save money during his campaign. $300,000/6 = 50k/year. I know that whenever I do work around the house, I like to hire family members since I can pay them less and predict them more.

edit- This is over a 26 year period? WTF? That works out to less than $2,000 a year for each involved. Actually, that's pretty incredible bang for the buck.

It's funny to read the comments thread, they're still talking about the racist newsletters.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Ron Paul tops list of House members whose campaigns paid families $3.1 million

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/22/ron-paul-tops-list-of-house-members-whose-campaigns-paid-families-3-1-million/

awesome!

most campaigns hire their families and pay them generously. nothing knew. Paul didnt even pay them that much. keep in mind this is money over 26 years. He keeps getting elected, that is why that number is high. I have made more money waiting tables in a 5 star hotel in one year than he paid his family (individually not total).

I love how the worst thing they can find about Ron Paul is perfectly legal. He does not hide any of it from his constituents either.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

BTW, what the hell IS the actual delegate count?

http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/03/ben-...-the-real-ron-paul-delegate-count-mar-7-2012/

 

[bentom187]

http://lewrockwell.com/paul/paul797.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Advice to Geithner
by Ron Paul

Before the United States House of Representatives, Committee on Financial Services, Hearing to Receive the Annual Testimony of the Secretary of the Treasury on the State of the International Financial System, March 20, 2012

Mr. Chairman, I thank you for holding this hearing on the state of the international financial system. The Treasury Secretary has neglected to appear to testify on this topic for several years, so I hope the committee will treat this topic with the importance it deserves during this Congress. It is especially important because of the work the G20 has undertaken on global currency reform since 2008. What role US representatives have played in these negotiations is unknown to Congress, nor do we know what global currency reform initiatives are being discussed. I fear that the G20 negotiations will result in a fait accompli that will be forced upon the American people with no opportunity for input or debate.


Ever since the closing of the gold window by President Nixon in 1971, the unbacked US dollar has served as the world's reserve currency. No longer constrained by being required to exchange dollars for gold, the US government has been able to fund its fiscal profligacy with trillions of dollars of new money created out of thin air. The only constraint on government spending is the willingness of investors to continue to purchase the Treasury debt issued to fund the government's massive fiscal deficits.

The federal government's fiscal profligacy has caused the national debt to skyrocket to well over $15 trillion. Even with nearly a trillion dollars of daylight under the current debt ceiling, it is highly likely that the federal government will reach this limit before the November elections. Foreign nations, especially our major creditors such as China, are watching keenly to see if Congress is serious about getting spending under control. Foreign creditors hold $5 trillion of Treasury debt, debt which is becoming increasingly devalued as the federal government runs trillion-dollar deficits and the Federal Reserve continues its trillion-dollar quantitative easing programs. Another increase in the debt ceiling would signal that Congress is not serious about reining in spending and would foreshadow a further decrease in the value of the dollar.


Unhappiness at this current state of affairs has led to calls to replace the current global dollar standard with a new global currency system. Many of the proposals work from the assumption that national governments cannot be trusted to manage currencies in a responsible manner, and that only an international organization such as the International Monetary Fund (IMF) can provide a stable global reserve currency. These proposals dig back to the roots of the discredited Bretton Woods system, only instead of resurrecting the flawed gold-exchange standard they propose a version John Maynard Keynes' "bancor", an international fiat currency based on the IMF's current special drawing rights (SDR).

Rooted in discredited economic thinking and a complete disregard for fundamental constitutional principles, the IMF over the years has forced American taxpayers to subsidize large, multinational corporations and underwrite economic destruction around the globe. IMF policies are based on a flawed philosophy that says the best means of creating economic prosperity is through government-to-government transfers. Such programs cannot produce growth because they take capital out of private hands, where it can be allocated to its most productive use as determined by the choices of consumers in the market, and place it in the hands of politicians. Placing economic resources in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats inevitably results in inefficiencies, shortages, and economic crises, as even the best intentioned politicians cannot know the most efficient use of resources. IMF assistance to foreign countries also has a history of funding graft and corruption among repressive regimes that leave their countries with massive debt to Western banks, with no economic progress having been achieved. As bad as the Federal Reserve has been in managing the dollar, I cannot imagine how much worse our monetary system would be with a single global currency issued and managed by the IMF.

Monetary problems come about because of the government monopoly on money issuance. Like any monopolist, government abuses its position and debases the currency it issues. Even inflating the currency supply by a seemingly paltry 2% a year results in a systematic debasement which severely penalizes savers and benefits debtors, including the greatest debtor of them all, the United States government. The ability to issue the currency in which its debt is denominated, combined with the ability to debase that currency so that the debt can be paid off with increasingly worthless money, gives rise to a temptation which no government official can resist.

To return to sound money, we need to return to the monetary system our founders intended. Gold and silver were to be the only types of currency which the states could declare to be legal tender, the government was not given a monopoly on currency issuance, and foreign coin could circulate just as freely as American coin. Rather than further centralizing currency issuance in an unaccountable international organization such as the IMF, currency issuance needs to be decentralized. The free market can provide currency just as it provides every other good. All that is needed is for government to remove the restrictions on private mints. Gold is gold no matter who mints it, and unlike paper money it cannot be created out of thin air. Gold-backed currency serves as the ultimate check on government spending and debt creation. Only by returning to commodity-backed currency can we return to fiscal and monetary sanity and break the cycle of booms and busts brought upon us by the Fed.

In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, this Committee has a great role to play in the future of our monetary system. We need to keep watch over the administration's negotiations with the G20 and vigorously oppose any efforts to force the United States into a new global currency, while simultaneously laying the groundwork for a return to sound money in this country.