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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

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whodare

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I got a question?

What about the dads right to protect his child's life...

She didn't get regnant without his DNA
 

bentom187

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Fortunately you have no power to enforce your views on anyone else...



libertarians do not beleive in forcing anything on anyone,but you are responsible for your choices in life and the consiquences.

to beleive otherwise is a giant moral hazard.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^from an idealistic standpoint, responsibility is shared between the 2 individuals that decided to fuck. If they want to use contraception then fine. If they want to try quick draw for McGraw and fuck up and then get an abortion that is fine too. It is 3 big people (ma, pa, doc) against one microscopic person. sorry thanks for coming little thing but your not hired for life.

a realistic stand point is is all up to the woman. When all is said and done it is her body, and if she wants to lance a baby growing in her like it was a boil then it is none of our business. If you morally object then let your god judge her.

Both of those are still cold points of view so it is still best to let each individual group to decide what their own personal beliefs on life are. That is Liberty.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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I got a question?

What about the dads right to protect his child's life...

Sure that's fine, but he has to take full custody and responsibility if mommy don't want it. same things that happens to females all the time.
 

zymos

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I got a question?

What about the dads right to protect his child's life...

She didn't get regnant without his DNA


You can't have it both ways: the whole pregnancy is the woman's responsibility, yet you want father's rights over the sperm he threw away??
 

Hash Zeppelin

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All this abortion talk is making me randy. I need to go impregnate some bitches and make them get abortions.... I'll be wearing my tux out tonight

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whodare

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You can't have it both ways: the whole pregnancy is the woman's responsibility, yet you want father's rights over the sperm he threw away??

Wrong

It's the woman's responsibility to use the contraceptives it's his to use the condom/pull out.

It's both of their responsibilities to know if the other person is using or planing on protection..

If they fail at that it becomes their responsibility to protect the life they created...
 

bentom187

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lol ,it is the pro aborters that cannot have it both ways, they cannot have sex and KILL because they dont feel like being responsible. killing is against the law period.

and a person inside a person is 2 people,both of them have equal protection under the law.
 

whodare

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Right on bentom

If I push her down the stairs and kill the baby it ishomicide

If I take her to a doctor to have it sucked/scraped out its abortion...
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Wrong

It's the woman's responsibility to use the contraceptives it's his to use the condom/pull out.

It's both of their responsibilities to know if the other person is using or planing on protection..

If they fail at that it becomes their responsibility to protect the life they created...

rofl condoms are contraception. people against abortion and contraception don't even understand what they are bitching about. It is EXACTLY like people that have never tried weed before telling me it is the devils herb, and It will make me a crazy rapist.
 

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con·tra·cep·tive *(kntr-sptv)
adj.
Capable of preventing conception.
n.
A device, drug, or chemical agent that prevents conception.

What is a condom if not a tool used in contraception


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_control

Birth control is an umbrella term for several techniques and methods used to prevent fertilization or to interrupt pregnancy at various stages. Birth control techniques and methods include contraception (the prevention of fertilization), contragestion (the prevention of the implantation of the blastocyst) and abortion (the removal or expulsion of a fetus or embryo from the uterus). Contraception includes barrier methods, such as condoms or diaphragm, hormonal contraception, also known as oral contraception, and injectable contraceptives.[1] Contragestives, also known as post-coital birth control, include intrauterine devices and what is known as the morning after pill.[2]


P.s. I'm not against contraception. Only against abortion of a fertilized embryo. Which is when I believe scientifically life begins.
 
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zymos

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A fetus is not a person.

Though the women sitting in prison right now in the US for "attempted murder" of their fetuses would probably have a hard time hearing about it all...
 

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rofl condoms are contraception. people against abortion and contraception don't even understand what they are bitching about. It is EXACTLY like people that have never tried weed before telling me it is the devils herb, and It will make me a crazy rapist.

these are not even close,you smoke weed you dont turn into a crazy rapist you are a mj user.

the reality is, if you kill a baby,by the very definition you ARE a murderer.

"crime of killing somebody: the crime of killing another person deliberately and not in self-defense or with any other extenuating circumstance recognized by law"


you cant then, abort ten babies cause the first one was easy and then say you are not a murderer because its not all that bad.


A fetus is not a person.

Though the women sitting in prison right now in the US for "attempted murder" of their fetuses would probably have a hard time hearing about it all...

you go to a trial by jury with your doctor saying there was a medical neccesity to abort the fetus wich would be understandable if there in fact was.
 

whodare

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A fetus is not a person.

Though the women sitting in prison right now in the US for "attempted murder" of their fetuses would probably have a hard time hearing about it all...

What is a person...

All I know is that it is a human life...

When is the cutoff
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^It the old testament It clearly states don't name the baby until it is two weeks old because it is not alive until it is two weeks old.

I wish I could find the verse. A rabbi showed it to me originally and now I can't remember it. all that comes up when i search though is crazy pro lifer bs
 

whodare

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I lol'd

I do hope your joking though


Hash, I think the religious nuts do more harm to the pro life argument than good.

I said it before and I stand by it

An open scientifically based debate is the only way.
 

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copied from the RP forums watch out conneticut: From Campaign for Liberty, Ct.
Do you want to be forced to put a tracking device on your car so the state can see where you are?

On March 14, the General Assembly Joint Transportation Committee voted unanimously to advance SB 288, an act requiring a study into the feasibility of placing Radio-Frequency Identification (RFID) tracking devices on your vehicle.

Vehicles outfitted with RFID tracking devices could potentially be monitored at all times. From the moment you leave your garage in the morning until you return, Big Brother can track your location.

Government officials say tracking your location is not the reason why they want to spend millions of dollars outfitting your car with its own customized RFID tracking device.

They say want to use the RFID tracking devices to fine those “dangerous” criminals who do not renew their registration, keep insurance up-to-date, or submit to an emissions inspection on time.

You see, the state will see a massive increase in fines it collects off of these “criminals”. Currently they collect an average of $594,000 every 3 years from these violations.

With the RFID tracking devices, it is projected that they will increase their loot to over $29 million per year.

If you agree that the loss of your right to privacy is a small price to pay for more money in government fines then you don’t have to do anything.

But if you are outraged that your legislators would even think of putting a tracking tag on your car, then you need to act now!

Contact your state Senator and Representative today and tell them to vote NO on SB 288. Tell them they should not be studying ways to violate your privacy and steal your wealth.

Click here to find your state legislators.

SB 288 is merely the first step down the road to a total surveillance state. Take action today to protect the fruits of your labor and your right to privacy.


In Liberty,


DXX WXXXs
Interim State Coordinator
Connecticut Campaign For Liberty

I'm getting ahold of my state reps RIGHT NOW!
 
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