Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

[ShroomDr]

Its Presidents Day, im reading about TR and the 1912 election.

One thing i read that seemed semi-pertinent in the election 100 year later

The election of 1912 is considered the high tide of progressive politics. A match-up between Roosevelt and Wilson alone may also have produced a Wilson victory, as many conservatives may have preferred Wilson, who still would have won much of the Democratic and progressive base.

I could see many corporate-republican-shills begging to suck Obamas dick if Ron Paul somehow captured the GOP nomination).


This made me laugh because it was probably true.

The Socialists had little money—Debs' campaign cost only $66,000, mostly for 3.5 million leaflets and travel to rallies organized by local groups. ...
...Emil Seidel, the vice- presidential candidate, boasted, “Only a year ago workingmen were throwing decayed vegetables and rotten eggs at us but now all is changed…. Eggs are too high..."

Thats LOL.

 

[Rukind]

That game where we are supposed to be astonished because you "uncovered" a video of GH Bush speaking in support of UN peacekeepers? We played that one yesterday- got some good mileage out of it, but I don't think we'll take that one much further.

so you speak for everyone now?

stop generalizing please, you surely dont speak for me.



Here is my advice to everyone in this thread, dont feed the trolls. its painfully obvious.

I would like to keep this thread going until the election is over for updates, but I dont see it lasting much longer if this kind of negativity keeps happening. Who cares if someone doesn't agree with you.

 

[zymos]

I agree with 2 and 5, basically.

I'll say it again, the FEMA death camp stuff really isn't doing your impression of sane person much good...

 

[itisme]

Here is my advice to everyone in this thread, dont feed the trolls. its painfully obvious.

I agree and I will no longer reply to ZYMOS or DISCO.

I will go on tangents about our rights and freedoms but try to make sure they stay concentraed on Ron Paul.

P. S. There is an ILLUMINAIT thread going on this site that is really good too.
Check it out and I can reference some other off topic things as it covers so a range of information.

 

[ShroomDr]

I also think all this bullshit about NWO does ZERO good.

This thread should be about who will legalize MJ, since Ron Paul is then only person running for President (with a chance) who does not believe you should be in jail for using MJ, the thread should concentrate on him.

The thread will obviously drift into the current election, the other candidates, and few other issues, but since even RON PAUL is not making 'exposing NWO' a central cause of his campaign, i think this thread deserves better.

Feel free to post SPECIFICS, that I, and anyone can read (without 4 different colors, sizes, and other bullshit).

If Obama hired Bernake because Lord Sauron told him, and youve got proof, ill READ it.
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[itisme]

I also think all this bullshit about NWO does ZERO good.

Some see the link and some don't.
Don't act as if I am crazy for bringing up something that many people feel is legit.

Like I said, How many times have you tried to convince somebody the drug was was insane.
Think how their brains are programmed to think your insane.
Some dont' even want Medicinal Mary Jane because there is NO WAY you know what your talking about!

RON PAUL referenced the NWO and to deny it completely seems pretty silly to me!

 

[Rukind]

I dont see how talking about problems with our gov't is off topic in this thread. cannabis prohibition is a good topic, but that isn't the only topic that relates to ron paul. this thread is about ron paul and the issues that he stands for.

some things are slightly off topic, but there isn't always ron paul updates and pretty much everything in this thread relates to ron paul in some way or another.

A lot of people who are ron paul supporters are also into a lot of conspiracy. it comes with the territory. if people dont like it, they should just leave the thread.

I enjoy the open ended conversations, i just dont like the negativity.

I liked itsme's comparison to the anti-drug people. its the truth.

 

[itisme]

I liked itsme's comparison to the anti-drug people. its the truth.

Thanks bro.

 

[ShroomDr]

Some see the link and some don't.

some see the futility and some dont.


Even Ron Paul knows better to go after it directly, you dont understand politics at all.



When you fight a bigger beast, you sneak up, you get close, and then you gut the son of a bitch.

Why?

Because standing on a soap box would be (and is) futile, and you are perceived as a loon.

 

[ShroomDr]

And if you cant see that, i really dont understand what YOU think Ron Paul is doing. He will flat out tell you he will not, and has never been able to win a MAJORITY of the delegates.

RP only chance is to 'sneak in', to exploit the system that actual works to keep him out.

Politically its masterful, and imho slightly more honorable that Newts 'lie though my teeth', Santorum's 'holier than you', and Romney's 'buying my way into the election the past 5 years' routine.

But its not perfect.



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[Rukind]

some see the futility and some dont.


Even Ron Paul knows better to go after it directly, you dont understand politics at all.



When you fight a bigger beast, you sneak up, you get close, and then you gut the son of a bitch.

Why?

Because standing on a soap box would be (and is) futile, and you are perceived as a loon.

thats why itsme is not a politician. doesn't mean he is wrong or a loon. who cares if someone thinks he is crazy.. maybe he is, maybe he isn't..

 

[ShroomDr]

you both are missing my point.

talkin NWO is not helpful, its not something RP is actively campaigning on, and doing so (even if he or you want to end it) diminishes the deliverers message.

Its not going to get RP more votes if he says it on TV, nor if its said in this thread.

We get it, hell i even posted info and pictures showing Bush in the CIA earlier than he admits, Rumsfeld behind Nixon, Rummy and Cheney with Ford, etc.

I posted specifics, not links to wackjob videos. Post images of the Northwoods documents, i dont think it is helping steer people on a weed site to vote for Ron Paul, even if he is the only one who doesnt want to put them in jail.

 

[Rukind]

you both are missing my point.

talkin NWO is not helpful, its not something RP is actively campaigning on, and doing so (even if he or you want to end it) diminishes the deliverers message.

Its not going to get RP more votes if he says it on TV, nor if its said in this thread.

We get it, hell i even posted info and pictures showing Bush in the CIA earlier than he admits, Rumsfeld behind Nixon, Rummy and Cheney with Ford, etc.

I posted specifics, not links to wackjob videos. Post images of the Northwoods documents, i dont think it is helping steer people on a weed site to vote for Ron Paul, even if he is the only one who doesnt want to put them in jail.

I agree, I think its better to keep the nwo stuff in its own thread unless it somehow relates to ron paul.

 

[SpasticGramps]

UN Agenda 21 lol.

Why do we even have nation states anymore?

Fuck it. Let's all submit to global governance and taxation without representation. Globalization and authoritarian rule rocks! The Greeks are loving having their sovereignty stripped away. Little people shouldn't have a say in how they are governed anyway. What an arcane principal. /sarc

To be honest, for me, it doesn't really matter. If global governance and regulations and the war mongers push the price of gasoline to $5++++++ gallon it's more money in my pocket. I don't pay for my gas anyway.

I guess I should be cheering the central planners to print as much money as possible and keep bailing out this bankrupt system. Aside from Wall Street, who are first in line to get the newly printed money, oil executives are right behind them. Monetary inflation is a wealth transfer and I'm lucky enough to be a benefactor. If I was really looking out for my short term best interest I'd be voting for Obama.

So monetize and over regulate away and in the process make me a fat cat in this deranged system. It will destroy the poor and middle class even more so than they already are, but no one seems to really care about their long term sustainability anymore. Pay them lip service and pass them onto the Nanny State for a mere subsistence living so they will continue to vote for their enablers. Don't forget to not include them in employment statistics too. That way they can be non-persons. Out of sight out of mind.

The elites obviously have all the right answers and shouldn't be questioned. They're doing one hell of fine job so far. Follow them right off the cliff.

A vote for Ron Paul is a small step towards breaking down the status quo and letting states decided the future of "the cause."

He's the only who will let the states have their say when it comes to MMJ and help sovereign people remain sovereign people.

 

[Rukind]

UN Agenda 21 lol.

Why do we even have nation states anymore?

Fuck it. Let's all submit to global governance and taxation without representation. Globalization and authoritarian rule rocks! The Greeks are loving having their sovereignty stripped away. Little people shouldn't have a say in how they are governed anyway. What an arcane principal. /sarc

To be honest, for me, it doesn't really matter. If global governance and regulations and the war mongers push the price of oil to $5++++++ gallon it's more money in my pocket. I don't pay for my gas anyway.

I guess I should be cheering the central planners to print as much money as possible and keep bailing out this bankrupt system. Aside from Wall Street, who are first in line to get the newly printed money, oil executives are right behind them. Monetary inflation is a wealth transfer and I'm lucky enough to be a benefactor. If I was really looking out for my short term best interest I'd be voting for Obama.

So monetize and over regulate away and in the process make me a fat cat in this deranged system. It will destroy the poor and middle class even more so than they already are, but no one seems to really care about their long term sustainability anymore. Pay them lip service and pass them onto the Nanny State for a mere subsistence living so they will continue to vote for their enablers. Don't forget to not include them in employment statistics too. That way they can be non-persons. Out of sight out of mind.

The elites obviously have all the right answers and shouldn't be questioned. They're doing one hell of fine job so far. Follow them right off the cliff.

A vote for Ron Paul is a small step towards breaking down the status quo and letting states decided the future of "the cause."

He's the only who will let the states have their say when it comes to MMJ and help sovereign people remain sovereign people.

I feel the same way, man. I wish I got free gas.

 

[itisme]

Agenda 21 For Dummies- It is only 10 minutes I am asking for here guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

Even Ron Paul knows better to go after it directly, you dont understand politics at all.

That is why I am an Idependant and not a R or D.
I could care less about politics, they are a big part of the problem.
You can't say what you really think. Ron Paul does a great job of playing the game and not bring up the craziest aspects of things, but he isn't afraid to answer them when he can.

John Carrey and his "don't taze bro" incident show how they handle people like me in public. I would had yelled' "Wake up you sheeple" is what he should had been yelling!

Thx RUKIND

talkin NWO is not helpful, its not something RP is actively campaigning on, and doing so (even if he or you want to end it) diminishes the deliverers message.

Its not going to get RP more votes if he says it on TV, nor if its said in this thread.

Ron Paul doesn't pander for votes, not will I. He says go to the polls. I say VOTE RON PAUL\
He says end the FED. I am just showing connections on why the FED is so evil, along with the IMF.

I sat in class and watched poor country after poor country always say, NO IMF. They hated it and I did not know why. I reasearched things and found out that the FED and IMF are the same people.
Then I started seeing all the control mechanisms in place other than the IMF and FED.

I kept hearing about a couple in CA that coudn't build on their own land. The EPA stopping a couple from building a single house on over 100 acres of their own land.....WHY? That has shit to do with saving the enviroment or saving the planet. It is about control! They were having their property rights taken away to constuct just a single family home on over 100 acres of land becuase of UN AGENDA 21
Her property fell under a section in CA that was under the UN AGENDA 21. So I listened to her ordeal and I have posted it too. She was a property rights expert.

Then I was wondering why Ron Paul didn't want the HUD, Dept of Energy, Dept of Education. I am not just stating things out of thin air. I didn't make up UN AGENDA 21 I only try to bring it to peoples attention and tell them to research it and all the other links to it....Like how it is being implimented on a local level Some act the the FEMA death camps are insame, but they can't tell me why the built FEMA camps all over the US and in certain areas. How do they know where the FEAM camp will be needed? Where did that money come from? They are shutting down schools here to make everything more education more centralized and laying off teachers, but we got plenty of money for FEMA CAMPS.

It just don't add up! I should know, I am an accountant. I don't need bean counters, I am one!

 

[BrnCow]

Paul: Santorum has an 'atrocious voting record'

Ron Paul on Sunday re-launched his attack that Republican presidential rival Rick Santorum is a liberal, adding he doubts the former Pennsylvania senator could beat President Barack Obama in November if he wins the party's nomination.

"His voting record is, I think from my viewpoint, an atrocious voting record - how liberal he's been in all the things he's voted for over the many years he was in the Senate and in the House," Paul said on CNN's "State of the Union."

Paul has previously attacked Santorum for voting for the debt ceiling five times as a senator, as well as the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere" in Alaska that was considered unnecessary government spending.

On Sunday, the candidate specifically pointed to Santorum's high-profile comments on the recent birth control controversy, in which the White House amended a rule that would have required religious institutions to pay for contraception coverage.

While Santorum clarified his position on Friday, saying he believes "birth control can and should be available," the candidate was an outspoken critic of the contraception policy as being a form of government "coercion."

"It's not about contraception. It's about government control of our lives and it's got to stop," Santorum said in a February 10 speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

Paul, however, argued that the candidates, including Santorum, were focused on the wrong issues.

"This whole idea about that talking about the social issues and who is going to pay for birth control pills, I'm worried about undermining our civil liberties, the constant wars going on, the debt of $16 trillion," Paul told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley. "They are worried about birth control pills and here he wants to control people's social lives."

Asked if Santorum, who's now topping the polls in several key states with upcoming contests, could potentially beat Obama in the fall, Paul said he didn't "see how that's possible" and blasted the former senator as a candidate "pretending he's a conservative."

Paul also stood by comments he made in Kansas City on Saturday night, in which he said the country was "slipping into a fascist system."

He argued that big business and government have too strong of a bond, and while the United States does not have authoritarian rule, he pointed to examples of American citizens captured "by the military and held indefinitely without a trial" as evidence the country was headed in that direction.

"We're not there, but there's reasons why we should not be complacent," Paul warned.

The candidate has yet to win any state contests, unlike the other three GOP presidential contenders, but Paul reiterated he was still in the race for the long haul, anticipating a run that could extend to the Republican National Convention.

"I have to assume that it's going to go into August because we're not going to lock it up in May, obviously," Paul said. "I anticipate it's going to go on for a while. And that's certainly what the supporters want me to do."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/19/paul-santorum-has-an-atrocious-voting-record/

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

I'm glad you decided not to respond.

You two could just grasp each others D#$% and merge into the circle jerk that you are.

Not sure that would divert attention from your distractions, unless you make it your next conspiracy of course.

BTW, I've seen mods close threads over homosexual slurs. I'd wouldn't personally lose sleep but it wouldn't help your image as a loose cannon.

He can't even see the NWO BUSH connection the guy had a world wide confessional of his objectives on TV.

Bush also confessed his objectives with Oscar Meyer. What do you know? Both your conclusion and Bush's favorite snack are the same thing - baloney.

You two could be applying the Delphi Technique applications that you try to use to push consensus and/or cause disruption and the thread to be closed.

I don't blame you for being worried the thread will close. You've posted some typical examples.

I wonder if you two have ever tried to convince anybody that the war on druges is a farce!

IMO, the war on weed is a farce. If you legalized all drugs you'd have to control it. States rights means there would be 50 different standards of access to hard drugs- or not. You'd have states like Florida and the prescription drug bonanza. I know your guru says you wouldn't do it just because you could but I wouldn't see his bet.

You use the same weak excuses as most of those people who think weed is evil make.

Interesting association. Vivid imagination.

We need the Gov't to protect our kids.
We need the Gov't to protect them from themselves.
We need the Gov't for Health Care
We need the Gov't for Education
We need the Gov't to protect the enviroment.
We need the Gov't to protect our freedoms, you just aint figured out that is not what they care to do.
Just like the people that support the DRUG WAR!
Nex thing out your mouths will be Ron Paul is a "Gateway drug"

Interesting you put it that way and I'll say it again. It's very ironic that the guy who has to drag the Star Trek convention alongside is the same guy who made a windfall from making stuff up. Two former newsletter employees not only admit their knowledge of all the subversive stuff, they correlated their larger contributions with it. Hey Ron, remember that boomerang you tossed and lost decades ago? Well heads up, bruz!

IS THERE ANYTHING THE GOV"T CAN'T DO FOR US? Besides let us live a life free of tyranny, I mean Gov't assistance.

Nothing like answering that question for yourself, if and when Ron Paul takes it away from you. Some bean counter will extrapolate your once dimes-to-doughnuts past vs your arm-and-a-leg existence and say, "Can you hear me now?" Cha ching.

 

[Plant Early]

 

[zymos]

If you flip it upside down and zoom in on his forehead, the creases spell out a message-check it out!