Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

[charlie garcia]

Well Kaiki
its always terrific to see you work, always very impressive. Pic below was from seed gifted to me labeled Punta Roju. Is Punta Rojo different or my seed maybe mislabeled? Bud below was harvested at 14 weeks I had two females and one male. One Female was tossed it grew lighter than feathers. The one I kept had very nice compact structure. Though I did not take pics of plant in growth the bud below was the result.PUNTA PUNTA ROJU 037.jpgROJU 017.jpg

The term Punta Roja (red tip) is maybe more used in Peru than in Colombia where they call it Punto Rojo in masculine and means red dot but basically refers to same things or type of plants. There are phenos of longer colas as well in this last PR batch. 14 weeks is nicely quick, hope smoke is good as well, did you save them in seed?.
best
kaiki

 

[Hmong]

the laos are impressive. the most vigorous one is very well branched. here's the best pic i have...
laos1


this pheno is the slowest of the group. i like it...
laos3


will post a pic of laos2 when it grows out of it's topping. nice plants. haven't show sex yet, and i don't plan to flower until after the new year.

this looks pretty familiar, very nice plants.
Don't let em grow to big before Flowering, it can take 4-5 Months for them to fully mature and they still grow half of that time, also you shouldn't start em to late, to avoid flowering indoors during summertime. why don't start em now and already finish in March?

btw here is a Hmong Hilltribe (Highland Laos Border Thai) grown indoors under 600hps taking 154 days without ever fully maturing

 

[jay sus]

purple haze x hmong. sweet.some months to go still.

 

[Samson4]

Developing Buds
thai/thai82 x mexican/durban

Panama Red getting hairy

 

[vermontman]

Beautiful bud , reminiscent of some old Nyc Haze

I'm very curious as to taste aromas effects

I'd imagine it's a misspelling, I've seen Punto rojo spelled a few different ways . What was your source ? I'm Interested in any background info

Btw I appreciate you sharing your lovely sativas

1luvbigherb

You are absolutely correct about the spelling, my bad I may need to smoke more! LOL As for the high certainly elevating but in a relaxed comfortably potent way. Funny the flavor seems to share a some similarity to a lot of the sativa I have run, but with its own unique undertones. I put this last bud away for next spring, for further testing. Background info coming up with next reply.

 

[vermontman]

The term Punta Roja (red tip) is maybe more used in Peru than in Colombia where they call it Punto Rojo in masculine and means red dot but basically refers to same things or type of plants. There are phenos of longer colas as well in this last PR batch. 14 weeks is nicely quick, hope smoke is good as well, did you save them in seed?.
best
kaiki

Hello Kaiki!
I hope this does not step on toes? But This is info of where this Punta rojo originated with out name dropping, from what I have been told. Yes I did make seed from this one great girl and one nice stout male her sibling in the batch. I try to keep landrace strains pure. If it helps at all I believe high intensity LED light helps speed up. Development shorting bloom to 14 weeks at least on this girl though I have experienced similar expedited growth on a number of different sativa strains. The smoke is wonderful, Great high, Very floaty/relaxed, but still high. The flavor is a delight. Any further info on these would be hugely appreciated. I plan to run a couple plants in the subtropics over the next several months. My math says you know LOTS! about this strain. So do you think I may get any purple phenos from these?
Warm Regards.
PS Sorry about the misspell and double pic.
DSC04480.jpgDSC04481.jpgviaje2.jpgviaje22.jpgPUNTA ROJU 028.jpg

 

[vermontman]

Sorry All
Totally Off topic woke up to this yesterday morning, Just had to share before I move.
HOPE EVERYONES HIGH IS AS LEAST AS BEAUTIFUL!
IT MUST JUST BE THE STATE I'M IN.
CHEERS ALL!@!
FALL 008.jpg

 

[charlie garcia]

not problem at all, I guess you can find purples in those seeds. At least there were lots of when I visited such area as well, even the deep purple almost black type of plants.
best
kaiki

 

[curbiechris]

i always wonder...

why aren't any of these NLDs making their way into cannabis cup competitions?
in the"sativa" category the entries all seem to be hybrids.

i think the genetics we have here in this thread would really stand out in comparison to the current entries i see.

 

[jay sus]

i think that this "flavor of the month" mentality, that these cups are manifestation of is very much against these nld type of plants. one favored trait that everybody copies and so on. whereas with these my biggest thrill is infinite variety of traits. no holy grail but diversity of it all. just my thought.

 

[Illuminate]

dude, nobody got time for 6months flower 6months cure on a low yielding NLD that takes a year from clone to market when you can have 5 crops of hybrid a year. i Admit im only growing lights of NLD because i have made the hybrids yet, but id like to keep it free from the broadleaf as much as possible.

 

[e.T]

this looks pretty familiar, very nice plants.
Don't let em grow to big before Flowering, it can take 4-5 Months for them to fully mature and they still grow half of that time, also you shouldn't start em to late, to avoid flowering indoors during summertime. why don't start em now and already finish in March?

i'll be flowering cuts. the reason i'm waiting for the new year is two fold. i like to let my pure sativas grow for at least 90 days to reach sexual maturity. secondly, i'm going on vacation in december and don't want a plant sitter looking after a room full of flowering sativas

 

[Martha Focker]

i always wonder...

why aren't any of these NLDs making their way into cannabis cup competitions?
in the"sativa" category the entries all seem to be hybrids.

i think the genetics we have here in this thread would really stand out in comparison to the current entries i see.

i'm going to guess...based on the things that i heard from people in these forums who have actually been judges in cups, as well as other people on the forums who offered their opinions over the years...

basically if it doesn't look like it's been in a snowstorm they refuse to even smoke it...

i'm sure we aren't the only ones who like long flowering sativa's. but a lot of people these days love the hype (s)trains and will jump aboard any new fad with dreams of dollar bills floating through their minds as they are harvesting early ass indica leaning hybrids at 50 days. most aren't even pure indicas. when i first started growing weed 70 days was a fast strain. most strains went 90+ for indicas, and 120+ for sativas. so basically we have a whole generation of smokers who have been smoking weak ass early bird 50-60 day weed calling it the "dank" the "bomb" and other buzzworthy words while shitting all over all the real weed.

i'm glad i still have my old collection of preserved seeds, the govt's plan to get rid of weed growers hasn't worked out like we thought it would. back in the OG days we all thought they were gonna lock us all up and eradicate weed. instead they let us legalize and medicinalize the weed, but instead of all the potent strains from yesteryear that were expanding minds and causing people to turn against the powers that be. we have what amounts to inbred crosses from a bottlenecked line of genes. basically that stereotypical "lazy sit on your ass and do nothing stoner" weed. which is what they want isn't it? a buncha do nothing apathetic sheep?

aka kush/chem/diesel which i believe to have all started from the same parents way back when. ever since then all anyone is making is kush chem and diesel derivatives. look at any seed bank. if they will even tell you whats in the cross, i'll bet you dollars to donuts the original lineage is kush chem or diesel, crossed to another strain whose original parents were kush chem or diesel.

try and introduce some landrace shit like a jamaican, mexican, thai, colombian, etc and everyone will tell you it's schwag or hay simply because it's not covered in trichomes and the buds are thin and wispy instead of dense nuggets that "break grinders".

that's my 2 peso's on the matter.

in other news. i just germed 4 seeds from 2007 that i thought were going to be lost to me forever.

 

[e.T]

i brought some mullum/oaxacan in to a dispensary for sale. i perused the 'pure' sativa selection.....
sour diesel, some kind of cookies, a lambsbread that was dense little nuggets...
fkn buyer didn't know shit and wanted nothing to do with my mullum/oaxacan and zamal x malawi/thai.
these are both covered in resin, smell wonderful and get you high as shit...not to mention the only pure sativas in the house. crickets...
the problem is that the market needs to be educated. a rising tide floats all boats...

here's a shot of my mullum/oaxacan with a 1yr cure. looks like shit, don't it

 

[Martha Focker]

i brought some mullum/oaxacan in to a dispensary for sale. i perused the 'pure' sativa selection.....
sour diesel, some kind of cookies, a lambsbread that was dense little nuggets...
fkn buyer didn't know shit and wanted nothing to do with my mullum/oaxacan and zamal x malawi/thai.
these are both covered in resin, smell wonderful and get you high as shit...not to mention the only pure sativas in the house. crickets...
the problem is that the market needs to be educated. a rising tide floats all boats...

here's a shot of my mullum/oaxacan with a 1yr cure. looks like shit, don't it
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i'd smoke that any day. once i get the courage up lol. you all ever get a sense of how the high is going to be based on the smell of the weed? i don't know what terpene it is but sometimes i smell some sativa and a feeling of dread overcomes me for a second. i just know i'm gonna be high as shit for hours and hours if i smoke some of that...and i got shit to do today lol. can't be walking around in the streets lost and drooling.

 

[rhinoman 1]

Hey ET, bring that shit too the d and it would be gone In a New York minute.

 

[snuggles]

i always wonder...

why aren't any of these NLDs making their way into cannabis cup competitions?
in the"sativa" category the entries all seem to be hybrids.

i think the genetics we have here in this thread would really stand out in comparison to the current entries i see.

cups are that... only cups. today's trend is tomorrow's.. well you know.
i cultivate what i like and don't mind what the current cupwinners are.
good genetics are always in demand, cupwinner or not.

good vibes

 

[Terpene]

i always wonder...

why aren't any of these NLDs making their way into cannabis cup competitions?

dude, nobody got time for 6months flower 6months cure on a low yielding NLD that takes a year from clone to market when you can have 5 crops of hybrid a year.

Basically this. Additionally, most people don't have perpetual setups or nutrient regiments that are easily tailored for a plant that runs twice or three times as long as the typical production lines. I've tried to get people interested extreme sativas here in southern california, but everyones response has been a variation of "they get too big, it takes too long, too little final weight".

They don't know what they're missing out on.

11.5 weeks of Ace Purple Haze Malawi x Napalm (purple haze x malawi) x (fire og x destroyer)

 

[Elmer Bud]

i brought some mullum/oaxacan in to a dispensary for sale. i perused the 'pure' sativa selection.....
sour diesel, some kind of cookies, a lambsbread that was dense little nuggets...
fkn buyer didn't know shit and wanted nothing to do with my mullum/oaxacan and zamal x malawi/thai.
these are both covered in resin, smell wonderful and get you high as shit...not to mention the only pure sativas in the house. crickets...
the problem is that the market needs to be educated. a rising tide floats all boats...

here's a shot of my mullum/oaxacan with a 1yr cure. looks like shit, don't it
View Image

G`day eT

The folks in Merica need some enlightenment regards what is considered a Sativa ??
Deezal and Cookies !?? WTF ?


Thanks for sharin

EB .

 

[Jhhnn]

i'd smoke that any day. once i get the courage up lol. you all ever get a sense of how the high is going to be based on the smell of the weed? i don't know what terpene it is but sometimes i smell some sativa and a feeling of dread overcomes me for a second. i just know i'm gonna be high as shit for hours and hours if i smoke some of that...and i got shit to do today lol. can't be walking around in the streets lost and drooling.

I've learned to take it easy w/ something I haven't tried before.

I'll still get more done being kinda scattered from a strain with some energy than taking a pot nap after a heavy MMJ strain like Herijuana.