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BC LONE WOLF

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Hammerhead

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It can be a bit confusing with 2 people using Swami for a cannabis brand. Swami Organic Seed and Swami Select are not the same person. Swami Select does not sell seeds.
 

BC LONE WOLF

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It can be a bit confusing with 2 people using Swami for a cannabis brand. Swami Organic Seed and Swami Select are not the same person. Swami Select does not sell seeds.

That’s right, and according to the swami organic seed videos on YouTube, dudes are looking totally opposite. The swami grower has dreads. It is confusing

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Thcvhunter

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Cannabiogen Destroyer Thai pheno 4 weeks Flo, fantastic smell already
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Thats one of the most beautiful things Ive seen here in my umpteen years drooling over this forum.

Im curious though, is everyone sure that the wheat pheno comes from the Thai side and not from the Mexi/Lumbo side?
Ive been seeing many wheat phenos popping up in Oaxacan lines and it got me wondering if the "thai" wheat pheno of Destroyer is really the Mexi/Oaxacan pheno of Destroyer.
 

Lugo

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Thats one of the most beautiful things Ive seen here in my umpteen years drooling over this forum.

Im curious though, is everyone sure that the wheat pheno comes from the Thai side and not from the Mexi/Lumbo side?
Ive been seeing many wheat phenos popping up in Oaxacan lines and it got me wondering if the "thai" wheat pheno of Destroyer is really the Mexi/Oaxacan pheno of Destroyer.
Ive been hearing alot of folks talking about the "wheat pheno" being a "side" of a cross; be it Colombian, Thai etc. In my experience the "wheat pheno" is/was just a natural occuring, not particularly desired genetic throwback that used to pop up in larger populations of any real landrace.

Of course now your seeing much more of it and people thinking its "a thing" when its really just bad breeding practices.

The abbundance of it showing up reminds me of the appearance of albinos in wildlife which usually indicate a smaller breeding pool where detrimental inbreeding is taking place.

The same bottlenecking of genetics that took place and ruined most post modern herb is now taking place among landrace foundation cultivars mostly due to commercial tendencies in N. American markets (again)

Those phenotypes here among traditional old school marimberos and Cannabis farmers were not prized at all and were culled or put aside.

Remember we live in a world were thanks to ignorance and market trends, mutations are celebrated, be that in Cannabis or canines.

This of course is just one mans opinion.

✌️💀🌺
 

elanius

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Thats one of the most beautiful things Ive seen here in my umpteen years drooling over this forum.

Im curious though, is everyone sure that the wheat pheno comes from the Thai side and not from the Mexi/Lumbo side?
Ive been seeing many wheat phenos popping up in Oaxacan lines and it got me wondering if the "thai" wheat pheno of Destroyer is really the Mexi/Oaxacan pheno of Destroyer.
I can only agree, love these crazy foxtailing plants with huge calyxes...and they are still swelling :geek:

You can certainly find the wheat types from both Colombian and Thai, but this plant comes from Thai selection of Destroyer by @unnamedmike and it has clear Thai characteristics in the smell as well. That Asian musky citrusy, lemongrass, perfume and spices with some terpinolene background is common aroma to be found in Thais, at least in my experience. Btw, the Colombians / Mexicans I grew out, over the years, had something similar going on, but it was very rare to find such expressions.
 

Rastafarout

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Ive been hearing alot of folks talking about the "wheat pheno" being a "side" of a cross; be it Colombian, Thai etc. In my experience the "wheat pheno" is/was just a natural occuring, not particularly desired genetic throwback that used to pop up in larger populations of any real landrace.

Of course now your seeing much more of it and people thinking its "a thing" when its really just bad breeding practices.

The abbundance of it showing up reminds me of the appearance of albinos in wildlife which usually indicate a smaller breeding pool where detrimental inbreeding is taking place.

The same bottlenecking of genetics that took place and ruined most post modern herb is now taking place among landrace foundation cultivars mostly due to commercial tendencies in N. American markets (again)

Those phenotypes here among traditional old school marimberos and Cannabis farmers were not prized at all and were culled or put aside.

Remember we live in a world were thanks to ignorance and market trends, mutations are celebrated, be that in Cannabis or canines.

This of course is just one mans opinion.

✌️💀🌺
I’ve noticed this “wheat pheno” in the S, and E Africa varieties too , very small percentage though
Same as the “pearl” pheno imo .. undesirable
Also that’s just my experience
 

elanius

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Ive been hearing alot of folks talking about the "wheat pheno" being a "side" of a cross; be it Colombian, Thai etc. In my experience the "wheat pheno" is/was just a natural occuring, not particularly desired genetic throwback that used to pop up in larger populations of any real landrace.

Of course now your seeing much more of it and people thinking its "a thing" when its really just bad breeding practices.

The abbundance of it showing up reminds me of the appearance of albinos in wildlife which usually indicate a smaller breeding pool where detrimental inbreeding is taking place.

The same bottlenecking of genetics that took place and ruined most post modern herb is now taking place among landrace foundation cultivars mostly due to commercial tendencies in N. American markets (again)

Those phenotypes here among traditional old school marimberos and Cannabis farmers were not prized at all and were culled or put aside.

Remember we live in a world were thanks to ignorance and market trends, mutations are celebrated, be that in Cannabis or canines.

This of course is just one mans opinion.

✌️💀🌺
I dont think anyone would be celebrating mutants or low yielding calyxes on strings in Cannabis, unless it provides special quality that makes it worth growing. I would choose compact bud structure over foxtails any time, if it offers the same or better quality of high. But with some lines, it seems to be the case, the lower yielding, longer flowering often foxtailing plants are just the best smoke. Then you can hardly call it ruined, bottlenecked or too inbred, if its the effect you are after of course. This Destroyer line is one of these cases, as it was confirmed many times, by growers I respect, that these crazy wheat phenotypes are the best smoke.

I have grown out the sister of this line already and it was compact one, so will be nice to compare these two after the foxtail diva finishes.
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