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Revival of the REVIVAL of the ULTIMATE SATIVA THREAD a.k.a R.U.S.T II

GreenAndFast

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These Sudanese showing some big time vigour 😁out of the dirt yesterday.
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Piff_cat

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If it has been possible with the pure inbred Original Haze, where it was thought to be impossible, as to much inbred, fucked up, hay, etc. etc.
Then nothing is impossible. :)
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My Original Haze lines have not gotten whispier through inbreeding compared to the OH they are originated from. Indeed you can find plants that look like the OH's in SamS californian greenhouse or SamS OH mother in Holland in the 90s.
So you are very wrong there, Sub with your observation. At least concerning my breeding.

Multi Haze is no inbreeding for me. But enlarging the genepool or linebreeding.
Indeed it's exact the opposite process, than what I have done on the OH, where I have separated the lines and bred the weird stuff out.
When you blend OH selections together, the weird stuff is back and you will need to do parts of the selection work again. That is what you are seeing and how it does work.



In reality, if I have understood well, the plants on the pics got cobbed all together and then sold to/in a US dispensary.
They are a step ahead there it seems. :(
And they are easy to get into the bag. You only need to rub with 2 fingers along the stem or the branch and let the calyxes fall in your bag. :)
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​Or harvest the plants and put them straight upside down into the washing machine. That 's the easiest.

Myself do consider the pearl bud forming an anomalie. That I do not want in my breeding lines. As I have already the fasciation as mutation.
I know it is caused by breeding for some very specific traits and clearly favorized by environment. Some greenhouses seem to favorize it. Genetic or not, I do not know.

The Demon Latcher is interesting on that subject. If I remember well the breeder said the pearl bud forming does come from the Oaxaca side. Not from the OH.


Below OT1 x OH inbred, done with the same Ot1OH male used in the MUlti Haze.

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thiis is really good hands on info very valuable from someone like yourself who has hands on haze line breeding experience. i find it interesting that fasciation cant be bred out, and that pearl phenos tend to pop up when recombining lines. fasciation has a few causes but becomes more permanent when present in the founder alleles of the mother line. if aneuploidity is the cause its generally not passed down in pollen but very frequently in mitochondrial organelle haplotype. then the pearl popping back up when recombined seems to signal either a recessive gene held by most lines or secondary trisomy where only a part of the extra chromosome is present and pops up when bred to a line containing the other half. the yield is undesirable, but the extra resin would be very useful if separated from the bud structure. just think its interesting both anomalies effects share a possible cause. too bad we dont have access to cytology equipment to see for sure.
 

herbgreen

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funkyhorse I think that must be the long flower nature of that plant :smokeit:

Its taking way longer to go to alternating nodes We saw an Acapulco Gold like that that 'hempy Mcnoodle' grew It took until near end of flower

Its a smart observation of yours for sure...Its important factor but we never really see it until these ultra-long flowering plants

I was taught to wait for alternating nodes before taking a clone I do believe its a sign of sexual maturity.....

Alternating nodes thread

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...ernating-nodes
 

JohnnyChicago

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JohnnyChicago
​​​​​​​I'm sorry for asking this again, but my memory is shot.
is your Multi Haze what others are calling the Icmag Haze?

I am not the most reactive in responding lately. :)

But no, Multi Haze, that I did also label "Purple Haze #12" is :
(Purple OH90 x THH) x (OT1 x Seedsman OH)

While Icmag OH is pure inbred Seedsman OH.

And Seedsman OH was straight SamS Original Haze. Seeds made by SamS himself.
 

JohnnyChicago

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Wow! No wonder you call it Multi Haze! That's a lotta haze parents!!
thanks
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Being able to buy something like that in a dispensary must be very great...
People often report great highs from that kind of pearly stuff. I wonder when they get that "ancient" look, if their effect is not ancient too.
Just like ancient plants from untouched fields, but more potent and more frosty.

On the pics I believe it was two plants, one slightly purple and one green, that then got cobbed together.
Here the result...
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Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Being able to buy something like that in a dispensary must be very great...
People often report great highs from that kind of pearly stuff. I wonder when they get that "ancient" look, if their effect is not ancient too.
Just like ancient plants from untouched fields, but more potent and more frosty.

On the pics I believe it was two plants, one slightly purple and one green, that then got cobbed together.
Here the result...

That’s a beauty. Did you sweat those at all?
 

funkyhorse

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funkyhorse I think that must be the long flower nature of that plant :smokeit:

Its taking way longer to go to alternating nodes We saw an Acapulco Gold like that that 'hempy Mcnoodle' grew It took until near end of flower

Its a smart observation of yours for sure...Its important factor but we never really see it until these ultra-long flowering plants

I was taught to wait for alternating nodes before taking a clone I do believe its a sign of sexual maturity.....

Alternating nodes thread

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...ernating-nodes

This is a Red Raid seedling from Atao genetics that got attacked outdoors by local fauna and I am trying to save. It was very difficult bringing the seed in, customs not easy, so I feel I must try to save it
I had done this succesfully twice before, once with a reg and another with a feminized seed
I found the seedling cut on the pot. It had just the first pair of leaves and about 1,5cm left of root/stem
I cant get Clonex, so I use nothing, just water sprayer in the cloning machine
This is how I found it
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And this picture is from today, it is growing roots and it is growing leaves as well, I am confident it will be saved and become a plant
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This means you can take cuttings from any stage. It simply takes longer if cutting is like this or deep flowering

This is Senegal haze Afropips x Ohz freak
It is 3 mts tall and it is full of bud sites, this is going to be very productive and it also looks very hazy. I hope she remains firm girl
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The Zamal girls are slowing feeling comfortable outdoors and just stretching
I have so far 2 Mango Pepper girls, 3 "boys" and 1 plant coming behind sexing. I also have 1 Mango Karut "boy"
All plants showed sex as males outdoors were brought indoors and they all went intersex very fast.

I had a plant like this in Swazi Skunk. I sadly dont have a place outdoors for this to grow alone. I have cut I might take it outdoors in deep winter to see what happens
I hope I can get a little pollen from the cuts for the girls later on
All of them are going to make seed. I believe this Mango Pepper plant received pollen from the NH21xMM boys
This thing is really turning into more female than male.
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Interesting strain this Zamal hybrid. Mango Karut x Mafate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafate.
It should hopefully have some resistance to low temperatures
Have a nice weekend everyone
 

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