Reversed Backcrossing:)

[N. Accumbens]

rik - your energy and enthusiasm is a credit to you, and i've learned a lot from this thread.
V.

I SECOND THAT MOTION....

Now stay away from my indias and sri lankas... you sts mixing fool....

OR MAYBE....hehe

Keep your head up high!
Be loud!
Show your way!
It is the only way anyone is going to learn anything..

Peace
NAcc

 

[FOE20]

wow.....this was a trip...not sure if it wrecked my last tokes of the day or just mentally stumped me at how folks try to communicate theories whether radical/hypothetical or not..
The broken English near the end didnt really help....
But its nice to see the Canna plant being supported and defended...
I'd def listen to these folks....theres so much to learn about each variety within this species that maybe when you know enough the methodology will be easy to outline for whatever your trying to accomplish....still have no idea....and in my eyes the Species is already Perfect enough without man screwing it up any worse than it already is...
please just leave it be.....

BlueCheese has been done over a few times....do we really need another?.,...

The Cheese a hyp strain the states?....heh....good luk with that and tryin to knock out any good RKS, Shoreline, and others out of any stables.....
ok now Im def uninterested in anything released from this......but will be interesting to see if this completes in anyway or not....
FOE20

 

[exploziv]

Hey Rick I think it's better to show us what you are working on... and explain how do you breed/plan on breeding and selecting your plants. I'm sure many people would like to see that type of thread.

good luck with your project!

 

[kopite]

i figured out how to mix STS yesterday,,,,iv just got to get the bits this week...

Rick with all respect, you go from figuring out how to self a plant using STS to quotes on QTA etc.

We all need to learn to walk before we attempt to run.......

Kopite

 

[heavy dank nugg]

Chimera,,,am i still an idiot?

Rick cool it man Chimera never called you a idiot. its childish to lash out because you asked him over and over to respond. He gave you one an honest one. Chimera is one of the people who has done the work. and it speaks for itself.... and knows what hes talking about. Im sorry but to see you try to provoke a great breeder like Chimera and call him out. its dead wrong. remember this Rick. Chimera is a successfull breeder and a very respected member of the canna community. you are just another member of a forum. and you have done no work worthy of note that i have seen. I think you need to check yourself. and learn some respect..and learn your place AND THATS THE TRUTH HDN HAS SPOKEN

 

[VerdantGreen]

hey hdn, i dont think rik was trying to call anyone out.

.....And dont get me wrong im not trying to argue anything i have a firm opnion on on the whole fem thing and am just stating it
reg seeds male/female chances of f 50% male 50% hermi 25% ( just numbers ).
fem seeds f 80% chance male 20% hermi 50% ( when you stress induce pollen you are forcing a dormant trait and making it dominant thus doubeling its chance of passing along the hermie gene as a dominant part of its dna make up)
now arent you just trying to hermi a plant get seeds choose parents (f) hermi them and bx them to you orginal ?

whilst you are here, have you got any links or references to where you got these numbers. i cant quite get my head around them, for instance your regular seeds example adds up to 125%.
could you explain them a bit further? do you have any experience or scientific knowledge on the subject?

i have been trying to find out as much as i can about this for a while (generally breeding from fem seed females really, and it seems that many people have strong opinions against it - but most seem unable to back up their opinions with actual scientific knowledge or experience.

thanks for your time
V.

 

[BENJI]

Hey rick bro i hear were your coming from but more reading and less typing thats why i havent bothered posting in this thread anymore because its all over the place bro u need to get the STS already and put your theory in motion then come back to this thread and start posting your test results ACTIONS SPEAK A THOUSAND WORDS i mean its a good disscusion but thats all it is until u start doing what u actualy say and bro dont take this the wrong way or what others have said its all constructive criticism no more talk lets do this shit already...

One more thing asking chimera if your still an idiot makes u look like an idiot just chill bro between him and colina and charles we have years and years to catch up on them we must take what they say very very seriously they have been there and we havent until we have its just a theory...

Peace..Benji...

 

[heavy dank nugg]

hey hdn, i dont think rik was trying to call anyone out.



whilst you are here, have you got any links or references to where you got these numbers. i cant quite get my head around them, for instance your regular seeds example adds up to 125%.
could you explain them a bit further? do you have any experience or scientific knowledge on the subject?

i have been trying to find out as much as i can about this for a while (generally breeding from fem seed females really, and it seems that many people have strong opinions against it - but most seem unable to back up their opinions with actual scientific knowledge or experience.

thanks for your time
V.

no sir i will not. keep reading the post over and over. till you understand it.. im not interested in your nit picking.

 

[VerdantGreen]

no sir i will not. keep reading the post over and over. till you understand it.. im not interested in your nit picking.

actually mate i think your refusal to answer in answer enough in itself

perhaps you are saying that you have a 50/50 chance of male/female but 25% of that population will eventually hermie?
you dont explain the stats very succinctly, and you must have got them from somewhere?

 

[heavy dank nugg]

so you were nit picking.... as usuall HDN has you pegged.... ok there mate tally ho

 

[N. Accumbens]

-50/50 chance of male/female but 25% of that population will eventually hermie is what i think dank nugg meant

Thanks for stopping by and adding xaviers notes... always appreciated!!!!

NAcc

 

[VerdantGreen]

so you were nit picking.... as usuall HDN has you pegged.... ok there mate tally ho

just trying to get some clarity hdn, you've responded to me twice and still not answered my questions. like i say all this hate towards fems seems to be backed up by precious little evidence or experience, just throw the word hermie in a few times and have a rant.

of the people who do seem to have scientific knowledge or experience, many seem more reticent about saying outright that using them in breeding is definitely a bad idea.

im just trying to get past the emotional responses and into the hard facts.

 

[heavy dank nugg]

because i hate repeating my self... do you know what these are...( )...good. now re read the thread... its allready clear... i was simply demonstrating my theroy....

 

[heavy dank nugg]

below is the last part of my previous post.... still awaiting my answer since we are "clarifying"


( when you stress induce pollen you are forcing a dormant trait and making it dominant thus doubeling its chance of passing along the hermie gene as a dominant part of its dna make up)now arent you just trying to hermi a plant get seeds choose parents (f) hermi them and bx them to you orginal ?

 

[Hazelnuts]

EDIT: nevermind, the post I quoted was on p1

 

[heavy dank nugg]

Rolls up some red eyed bride.....
pulls up a chair, and fastens seat belt.
NAcc

PS- well said hazlenuts...in this case we want to use the female to create female pollen (XX)... and well after that i'm not sure what rick really wants to do which is why i am here... to find out!

Hehe

you like the reb???? i found it to be lacking flavor. i olny tried 2 phenos though... so who knows

 

[N. Accumbens]

What's up HDK!

I like my sativa Sweet pink grapefruit leaning REB, i think it actually lacks in high, but makes up for it in flavor... but yah, you got all those indica leaning ones remember....

On the other hand i have another pheno, which is amazingly tasteful and has a good high... none of my ladies really leaned indica... all leaned towards the sativa-ish saw-tooth.

On one batch there was high humidity, and that led to hermaphroditism in one of the femme phenos...

I would not use that stressed female pollen to breed with though, because then i could just guarantee myself future hermaphroditic tendencies, which may take a long time to breed out, and technically may never be bred out (which is how it got there in the first place- or it wasn't a male true male that got loose...but i kinda doubt that!).

Unless, for some crazy reason i felt i had the gene! The holy grail of medical marijuana plants... but then we'd be talking a genotype of like 75% CBD's...maybe 25% thc, but really even then i am not sure that's how the story goes... we will just have to wait and see...

Also I could just want to experiment if female pollen really does increase femme tendencies, which many pot-heads such as rik and I, have and are doing.
Just to keep us on track...


Peace folks
NAcc

 

[heavy dank nugg]

its HDN and i remember you. thanks for your very long drawn out roundabout rude responce.... a very seddy seed indeed.

 

[BENJI]

Ok this thread is turning to SHIT if i went through this entire thread and weeded out all the bullshit and bickering non-sense we would be left with about 3-4 pages of good information from some very well respected people keep it on topic and if u have anything to add that can help or might be a useful question then by all means ask or reply but if not then STFU period..

If you have arguments keep em to PM's especialy if its not on topic cheers...

 

[VerdantGreen]

because i hate repeating my self... do you know what these are...( )...good. now re read the thread... its allready clear... i was simply demonstrating my theroy....

right, so basically what you stated here -

.....And dont get me wrong im not trying to argue anything i have a firm opnion on on the whole fem thing and am just stating it
reg seeds male/female chances of f 50% male 50% hermi 25% ( just numbers ).
fem seeds f 80% chance male 20% hermi 50% ( when you stress induce pollen you are forcing a dormant trait and making it dominant thus doubeling its chance of passing along the hermie gene as a dominant part of its dna make up)
now arent you just trying to hermi a plant get seeds choose parents (f) hermi them and bx them to you orginal ?

is just your own personal theory, which you refuse to explain any further or back up with any references.

thanks (for the clarification).
V.