Responsible ethical Breeders Needed!

[afropips]

Cannabis is a species under attack.
True breeders with goals & intentions are sorely needed to protect the genetic resources cannabis has left.
Now more than ever, ethical breeding should be of utmost concern to cannabis enthusiasts.
Years of greedy seedmaking practices without improvement or preservation have led to a genetic botleneck, a narrowing of the potentially available breeding stock.
The species desperately needs breeders who are willing to improve populations in their possession, all the while preserving valuable genetic
resources for future generations of breeders. (MHMGB by JC)

Genuine landrace varieties from reputable documented endemic areas &
F1 landrace based Hybrids with extreme vigour
hold the key to the preservation & survival of the species.

Power to the grower........

 

[Guest]

1 problem??

You can take a strain and grow it in many different climates?
THIS CHANGES THEM most of the time.......
My old saying goes,YOU THINK YOU KNOW A STRAIN....
give it other types of climate especially HEAT,humidity my worst?

GREAT THOUGHT it is what i have tried to do with indreeding here.
Got a certain strain of sativa that may be worked on in FLA???

 

[Closet Funk]

I agree! We need more breeders that are dedicated to thier work. I got a few landraces of my own and later on down the road I'm definetly going to do some breeding with them. Maybe in the future if everything goes right they will be available to the world.

 

[Guest]

Cool thinking.....

Yah my last 17 year old sativa cross turned out leafy....
So i chucked it my prob is i can start out with a rock hard nugget
plant and after a few years of inbreeding they become airy as hell?
Do you know of a line of sativa that likes humidity and stays rock hard
ill take it hehe......
Now ofcorse i have over 100 strains to work with so we'll see maybe!!
So if you all know how BIG and FREE i grow send me some sativa you like
ill work with it and get ya the best pheno's i got SPACE and TIME ok!!!!!!

 

[Closet Funk]

Cool thinking.....

Yah my last 17 year old sativa cross turned out leafy....
So i chucked it my prob is i can start out with a rock hard nugget
plant and after a few years of inbreeding they become airy as hell?
Do you know of a line of sativa that likes humidity and stays rock hard
ill take it hehe......
Now ofcorse i have over 100 strains to work with so we'll see maybe!!
So if you all know how BIG and FREE i grow send me some sativa you like
ill work with it and get ya the best pheno's i got SPACE and TIME ok!!!!!!

I wish I had space like you Lou. I would definetly get into breeding alot more. Right now I can only work with a few plants. I'm just going to stick to growing and learning about the plants. Later on when I get more experienced and a feel to it then I will start breeding. I'll still make crosses just for the hell of it just to have other stuff to work with. I got some Sativas I want to work with definetly. I got to move some place where I can grow them outside because I think as a breeder you have to see the best of both world of indoors and out.

 

[Daytripper]

Cannabis is a species under attack.
True breeders with goals & intentions are sorely needed to protect the genetic resources cannabis has left.
Now more than ever, ethical breeding should be of utmost concern to cannabis enthusiasts.
Years of greedy seedmaking practices without improvement or preservation have led to a genetic botleneck, a narrowing of the potentially available breeding stock.
The species desperately needs breeders who are willing to improve populations in their possession, all the while preserving valuable genetic
resources for future generations of breeders. (MHMGB by JC)

Genuine landrace varieties from reputable documented endemic areas &
F1 landrace based Hybrids with extreme vigour
hold the key to the preservation & survival of the species.

Power to the grower........

How many plants are required for preservation?

What exactly is the role of F1 landrace based Hybrids with extreme vigours in preservation?

What way do you recommend to perserve F1s?

Thanks

 

[Reign of Terror]

Mr. G preserved the cherry bomb through a bag of maui waui

you have to do open pollenation, its the only way to keep the gene pool as wide as possible, this is how you preserve a strain to a certain extent. stabilizing and selecting phenos is after youve stabilized a wide gene pool.

 

[Guest]

lou..your one of my favorite growers around!!! go big or stay home baby!
i have a beauty sativa project you might like,very stable ,very consistant.pm if you wanna grow some out for research.

 

[Daytripper]

I know the answers to the questions I asked.

The Journal of the Internationa Hemp Association has several articles on germplasm preservation of cannabis. They state for preservation that 2000 plants must be grown to preserve 99% of the alleles if dieocious, 1000 if moneocious.

Preserving cannabis with a pack of 10 seeds is like preserving the human race with 10 people, can't be done.

 

[Reign of Terror]

All I have to say is A.C.E. Seeds and Cannabiogen Seeds. They have preserved many strains, including the Anglonese Red, extinct in its region of origin

 

[Daytripper]

Making seeds and preservation are not the same thing.

Reign if you want to preserve your genes you will ned to sire over 20,000 children.

To bad no one can say the common stoner is smarter than the president of ameriKa.Proof of that statement is on the cannabis boards.

 

[afropips]

RofT,
Are you Experienced?
Angolan Red is not a landrace or heritage variety.
It is a Hybrid.
Angolan cultivars are still available in Angola & by no means Rare.

Cool Runnings.........

 

[Reign of Terror]

la mano negra says different, and he preserved the strain, its actualy the same Angola that ace and cbg possess. he claims it is extint in the nation due to previous warfare.

 

[jaykush]

when i do some breeding i do it with serious passion and a personal goal in mind. i understand what your talking about, everyone just wants to cross this with that then sell the seeds to make cash. there are a few that still are true to the art. what i think we need to see more is so called "breeders" or seed sellers should always keep upping thier gene pool. Lets say they make an initial cross in 06, after all the f1's are gone and they have picked there final slections for the next generation then go and start making f2's, and repeat the process. By 2010 they have an ibl and there select mom and dad to keep maiking the most quality seeds for everyone and the strain will stay around. They should do this will all thier strains. Me personally i wont let anything out till the 3rd or 4th generation.

 

[Reign of Terror]

Making seeds and preservation are not the same thing.

I see what youre saying.

Reign if you want to preserve your genes you will need to sire over 20,000 children.

...Ok so i guess the making of Mr. G's Cherry Bomb is fake?

To bad no one can say the common stoner is smarter than the president of ameriKa.Proof of that statement is on the cannabis boards.

Why are you trying to insult me?

 

[Reign of Terror]

when i do some breeding i do it with serious passion and a personal goal in mind. i understand what your talking about, everyone just wants to cross this with that then sell the seeds to make cash. there are a few that still are true to the art. what i think we need to see more is so called "breeders" or seed sellers should always keep upping thier gene pool. Lets say they make an initial cross in 06, after all the f1's are gone and they have picked there final slections for the next generation then go and start making f2's, and repeat the process. By 2010 they have an ibl and there select mom and dad to keep maiking the most quality seeds for everyone and the strain will stay around. They should do this will all thier strains. Me personally i wont let anything out till the 3rd or 4th generation.

Exactly, but i thought too many 1 on 1 crosses will lead to the downfall of a strain when inbreeding due to lack of diversity in the gene pool

 

[jaykush]

it doesnt need to be one on one theres many good multi-hybrid strains after some workthey can be very good, after a while there will be tons of ibls around which are better for breeding anyways than multiple lower generation crosses and outcrosses and such. the crosses of the ibl's will show a ton of variety and keep the population high. as for one strain its a good thing, more stable seeds, better plants in every pack, better for the seed customer.

 

[zamalito]

Fritzman just told me he's quitting his breeding and preservation. He's had a lot of broken promises and emails asking questions and wanting something for free but little interest in supporting his business. This is terrible.

 

[Reign of Terror]

^^^Fuck!!!!!!!!!!! I didnt get any of his strains yet, do you know when he plans on going out...this is bad for me. Damn it damn it. Ill have to talk to him.

 

[zamalito]

I think he's already gone from the way he sounded. He may be willing to sell some of the stock that he has in larger amounts. Its really sad he couldn't make it. He was one of the few honest ones out there.