Reasons why dry sifted resin is the best!

[PTDTTLHS]

One method I have used with good success is get the kief through a 110 screen, place the kief in a 240 screen wad it so the kief is like a ball and shake on a cold day, what is left in the ball is not to bad...

R.C. Clarke describes this technique he saw in Afghanistan in his book "Hashish!". I've never tried this technique (which Clarke describes as lifting the fine mesh bag and dropping it down over and over again and this bag was passed around the room and that it takes a long time to really clean up the sift, he also said you could see clouds of fine dust (contaminant) passing through the fine bag.

how long does it take you to purify average tumbler sift into 80% + purity? Do you also use the lift and drop technique?

 

[EsterEssence]

100 grams of raw tumbled kief can be done in about 20 mins. Yes it is the lift and drop technique. I haven't seen R.C. Clarke's book I'll have to ck it out...

 

[NoEgoGenetics]

dry sift is great.. but if u use nugs for bho.. or trim right after your done trimming the nugs.. put it directly into the tube.. and spray.. and u get some amazing tasting and selling bho.. it all depends man.. me personally I am a variety man.. I have 3-4 kinds of dry sift.. 3-4 kinds of bho shatters.. a few kinds of bubble bag hash.. I mix up a few kinds of shatter. and a few kinds of dry sift.. with some heat.. and make some amazingly tasty jellyhash.. so all in all.. I got 4 strains of dry sift.. 4 strains of shatter.. 2 kinds of bubblehash.. and 1 mix of all the dry sift strains. n the bho strains. to make a nice fat piece of shatter jelly hash.

 

[PTDTTLHS]

dry sift is great.. but if u use nugs for bho.. or trim right after your done trimming the nugs.. put it directly into the tube.. and spray.. and u get some amazing tasting and selling bho.. it all depends man.. me personally I am a variety man.. I have 3-4 kinds of dry sift.. 3-4 kinds of bho shatters.. a few kinds of bubble bag hash.. I mix up a few kinds of shatter. and a few kinds of dry sift.. with some heat.. and make some amazingly tasty jellyhash.. so all in all.. I got 4 strains of dry sift.. 4 strains of shatter.. 2 kinds of bubblehash.. and 1 mix of all the dry sift strains. n the bho strains. to make a nice fat piece of shatter jelly hash.

good to know, I'll be over at your place in ten minutes

 

[Garhart]

The most educated person I know on the subject goes for dry sift almost exclusively. How long does change take ?

 

[DrySiftWizrd]

The most educated person I know on the subject goes for dry sift almost exclusively. How long does change take ?

People are already starting to realize how much better of a high a good dry sift provides over anything else available.

Change is happening right in front of us.

Part of why I gave up my method as well, it was just time...

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

1) It's tastes better....when you smoke quality dry sift you are inhaling the "essence" of the plant, the full flavor as nothing is rinsed away, nothing is dissolved in chemicals, you are inhaling whole, un-ruptured, resin heads (if the sift is unpressed)

2) The high is better......Ice water hash and petrochemical derived oils often have a higher potency, but the high from ice hash lacks a fullness and oils often have a foggy high.

3) Dry sift is faster to produce....I can be smoking dry sift long before before you even finish mixing your Bubblebags or even before you complete the first steps of butane extractions

4) It's safer...there's no problems with water, electricity and getting electrified nor is there a concern about butane or alcohol explosions

5) etc etc

Add you own reasons why!..and if you think that butane extracted oils or Bubble bag hash is better, please start your thread telling us why.

1) False - Dry sieve does not taste better than ice water sieve. The "essence" of the resin does not disappear, what you smell in the water are the terpenes that have leaked from the rupture point, resin does not dissolve in water.
2) The high is better??? Why would it be it is still the same resin.
3) Dry sieve is most definitely faster to produce and as good and clean as ice water
4) Ice water sieving dangerous, seriously???
5) Etc. etc.

 

[Bud Green]

I really haven't got a CLUE what you all are talking about....

I grow it, chop it, trim it, dry it, cure it, and smoke it...

I guess I've been living in a cave...

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Sieving and pressing to make Hashish

Sieving and pressing to make Hashish

I really haven't got a CLUE what you all are talking about....

I grow it, chop it, trim it, dry it, cure it, and smoke it...

I guess I've been living in a cave...

You may not live in a cave but you sure don't do much with your trims.

 

[tropicannayeah]

1) False - Dry sieve does not taste better than ice water sieve. The "essence" of the resin does not disappear, what you smell in the water are the terpenes that have leaked from the rupture point, resin does not dissolve in water.

In my opinion, dry sifted hash always tastes than ice water hash. ..and yes, of course resin doesn't dissolve in water but let's face it, take a plant, separate into two, dry sift one half and Bubble bag the other half then compare...there's a difference. The difference is readily apparent in the taste and to some extent the high. Ice hash has a higher. cleaner high, but it's a "thinner" high, whereas dry sift has a fuller, broader high....taste wise, ice hash is like a very clean clear liqour and dry sift is Scotch. By the way, the post you answered point by point was written about butane extractions as well as ice water has, so obviously, resin doesn't dissolve in water but it does in petrochemicals.

4) Ice water sieving dangerous, seriously???

I guess we can all agree that dry sifting is the safest method for making hash, butane extractions are the most dangerous in the hands of idiots and ice water hash is inbetween and closer to dry sift. Is ice hash making dangerous?, not for you, me and 99% of the people out there, but combine a stoned idiot, water on the floor and an electric drill and we will have another candidate for the annual Darwin Awards.

2) The high is better??? Why would it be it is still the same resin.

The same?...in my opinion, no it's not. One has been rinsed in water and the other hasn't ...rinsing affects the taste and to some extent the high. Here's an example, cut an apple then eat half, cut the other half in small pieces and soak in water for half an hour...tell me which one tastes best.

5) Etc. etc.

How about adding why you think dry sift is better.....here's another one - it's ten times easier to handle than petrochemical extracted goo.

 

[tropicannayeah]

Here's an example, cut an apple then eat half, cut the other half in small pieces and soak in water for half an hour...tell me which one tastes best.

I can see me copping flak for the apples comparison...so try this, take a handful of dry sift, separate into two, soak one half in cold water for as long as you would when making ice water hash, dry it then compare the rinsed hash with the dry sift and let us know if there's any difference.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

Have you ever try to dry sieve and ice water sieve the same trims to be able to judge, I have not so I will not push it further for the moment, I am waiting for my screen to start again dry sieve and put it to test. I have been dry sieving from Morocco to Pakistan and been trained by some serious Afghanis Hashishins for more than a quarter of a century so my love for dry sieve should not be in doubt, I guess my knowledge to a point as well.
The water bring something to the game that I started to study in details, as an example when you put odorless trims in water to soak and the terpenes come back in a matter of minutes, something is definitely happening. I would also love dearly to have you taste some of my ice water hash, may be at one events in the near future.
I also do not touch any solvent outside alcohol and the oil is made for cancer patient only and has to be ingested.

 

[DrySiftWizrd]

I've made both from the same product and for sure notice a slight taste/high difference between the two, not much.. but it's there.

I remember reading an article on OG way back in the day about diterpene membranes and how they are 'rinsed off' when they go into water, basically erasing some of the flavor and high, as terpenes obviously do *something*..

Even if it's 1% that's rinsed or washed off, some people will still complain haha.

 

[tropicannayeah]

Frenchy and DSW...you guys are definitely an asset to IC..keep the posts coming.

 

[EsterEssence]

I have noticed that water hash is much harsher to smoke than good dry sift of mosel sharif shirak quality...

 

[mack 10]

Welcome to IC Frenchy, Glad to soak up any knowledge you want to spread, your water hash I saw on a youtube clip looked supreme.
Tell us about your travels? and experience with dry sift, ice hash etc.

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

I've made both from the same product and for sure notice a slight taste/high difference between the two, not much.. but it's there.

I remember reading an article on OG way back in the day about diterpene membranes and how they are 'rinsed off' when they go into water, basically erasing some of the flavor and high, as terpenes obviously do *something*..

Even if it's 1% that's rinsed or washed off, some people will still complain haha.

Diterpenes are not membranes and they do not rinse of in water
Diterpene is a true terpene made of 4 isoprene's units in the molecule. Monoterpenes, sesquiterpenes, and diterpenes are abundant in the essential oils of plants: turpentine contains several monoterpenes, and the rosin acids are diterpenes. Vitamin A is another important diterpene.
Only lab test can tell us the difference between dry sieve and ice water.

 

[mack 10]

^ Boom, Frenchie drops some knowledge bombs... keep em coming,..
this thread's getting interesting.

 

[DrySiftWizrd]

I may get blasted for saying this.. but my tongue can tell the difference between dry sift and water hash.

I am willing to bet that given both a high end sift, and a microplaned ice wax that -look- identical.. I could tell the difference in the smoke.

Actually, that would be a fun experiment lol..

 

[Frenchy Cannoli]

I will hold you on this one and have TC filming it