Happy Times
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That sounds like some nice parents there, pretty reasonable flower time too
The cut of Kali Mist I had back around 2005 was done right around 77 days
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Real G13 haze?
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That sounds like some nice parents there, pretty reasonable flower time too
The cut of Kali Mist I had back around 2005 was done right around 77 days
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IncenseRosemary
I had grown them before one of the best crosses i run. I think it was made with somas original fast flower cut (Amnesia) x somas g13 hazeC male.
Er thing touched by Somas G13haze male is gold.
Purp phenos were g13haze dominat with that spicy,medicinal,piney citrus smells. And green phenos are close to SSH smells more fruty and uplifting.
To clarify abit..
Soma's Amnesia Haze is not related to SSH nor G13Haze.
Soma's AH is Laos x Jamaican x Afghan/Hawaiian
The so called "Amnesia" Core -cut is not related to Soma's Amnesia Haze thou the name may confuse some people, and it's apparently from a seed found in GHS's SSH.
It's the Core "Amnesia" that i from late 90's, not Soma's Amnesia Haze, which won it's first Cannabis Cup in 2004 i think.
Soma's Amnesia Haze is not related to SSH nor G13Haze.
Soma's AH is Laos x Jamaican x Afghan/Hawaiian
The so called "Amnesia" Core -cut is not related to Soma's Amnesia Haze thou the name may confuse some people, and it's apparently from a seed found in GHS's SSH.
It's the Core "Amnesia" that i from late 90's, not Soma's Amnesia Haze, which won it's first Cannabis Cup in 2004 i think.
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IncenseRosemary
Goat please read this forum but before buy some seeds and grow. You will have phenos in soma close to core and close to g13 haze....
knowledge without practice is nothing more growing less troling please. Also u live in US we in EU know better hazes
especially Amnesias.
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IncenseRosemary
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=214921
If you dont belive me here is the grow report long flower phenos are g13haze spicy piney afghani haze like smells more compact faster flower close to core. I had smoked some of phenos about 40 fems of 100seeds so i know that line and Amnesias of all kind very well.
Soma amnesia is g13amnesia or core cut s1 x g13hazeC somas best male in fact neville-shanti male. Buy somas seeds buy hypro seeds buy core cut and grow and smoke them all. And u dont need this bullshit stories when some stoner remember day he give before 20 years im real stoner and i dont know what i eat before 3 days. So i dont believe in stories. Grow some Shiva shanti u will recognize CHEM line and etc etc......Just grow less reading and philosophy....
If you dont belive me here is the grow report long flower phenos are g13haze spicy piney afghani haze like smells more compact faster flower close to core. I had smoked some of phenos about 40 fems of 100seeds so i know that line and Amnesias of all kind very well.
Soma amnesia is g13amnesia or core cut s1 x g13hazeC somas best male in fact neville-shanti male. Buy somas seeds buy hypro seeds buy core cut and grow and smoke them all. And u dont need this bullshit stories when some stoner remember day he give before 20 years im real stoner and i dont know what i eat before 3 days. So i dont believe in stories. Grow some Shiva shanti u will recognize CHEM line and etc etc......Just grow less reading and philosophy....
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IncenseRosemary
And CORE CUT high is like Afghan Skunk not so Haze its the most commercial of SSH phenos for me the and the worst. But it have lil bit of smell and taste of haze incense, taste is shit compared to hazes on incense level. Best SSH phenos are 80+ days.
Fuck off trolling..
And it doesn't matter where a person lives in this topic but i'm not from the States, so hold the lecture. But it's quite telling you'd use that in your arguments. It just has nothing to do with smoking weed and genetics.
It's not a surprise if Soma's Amnesia Haze has somewhat similar phenos as Dutch hazes, cause Columbian and Jamaican are closely related to SE Asian sativas. The Hawaiian prolly has some Central American genetics in it too. You should have a think before you start typing.
The Cup winning cut of Soma's AH i have smoked in Amsterdam few times has nothing to do with SSH,Nevil's, C99, Mango Haze blaah, blaah. You just want to believe that because of internet myths about Soma's Amnesia Haze claim that.
Soma has clearly told the make up of his AH is, it's Laos/Jamaican/Afghan/Hawaiian. It's not related to Haze genetics from Nevil.
But i bet you know better.
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Here's my G13 leaning Gordy's Spice 18 from Motarebel
..are you sure YOU know enough about G13 genetics?? Let's see some. LOL.
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IncenseRosemary
Today we have milion of seeds company 99,8% start from culitvars buyed in seeds packs or clone gived by friend. No one start breed landraces if they do they mixed in some step with alredy great cultivars. All seeds are in 2004 fem x g13haze and only one seed line from this year is heavy breeded from landraces. For my logic this story makes no sense.
Cool. There is def potential in this line.
These beans where when he first made these a while back.
The purp one actually has a kind of strawberry
Which instantly blends to that spicy, piney.
They are on the drying line.
The green phenos smelt the loudest,
That signature Amnesia powers through
With sunny glints of lemon,citrous on the end.
Good yields too.
She how she smokes.
Esko told me to make water hash with it,
An be surprised.
They for sure sparkle.
I heard the same.
Plus a few more.
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IncenseRosemary
Yes not every pheno is the same but longerflower phenos are spicy piney+(orange,mango,strawberry,or just sugar sweetnes) afghan haze smells,while that green phenos resamble amnesia ssh smells pepper lemon with candyiness. And mix of both phenos also exist.
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IncenseRosemary
Yes it does matter where people live cuz in Cali you know Ogs better then us in EU. Also about Amnesias its most smoked growed commercial plants in EU so we know that line better.
Soma Amnesia Haze is sure close related to Amnesia from Holland but more spicy,hazy than Amnesia cuz it is crossed to G13hazeC i grow few seed lines from different breeder and see the traits of this male CG,DNA... seed banks used it for breeding. Also i had grown Jack o nesia,Core cut S1,golden haze,Amnesia Soma s1,Not grown but close to man who grown many somas reg before smoked and looked em. Also from Hypro Amnesia is more Orange,Peach,woody and uplifting i mean on seed line not hypro cut. cuz they used Nevilles Haze male on Amnesia cut. While soma used G13hazeC which ad that kind of terps on somas seed line. Also if he breeds laotian,Jamaican,Afghan,Hawaian where does Amnesia Haze name come from ???? He always make names like Sogouda,Somalicius,or insted change commercial names like white willow instead of widow or citral instead of Lemon skunk. Only real breeder with landraces is Neville and Sam and that OS crew 99,9% use their work and phenos for today breeding. No one use landraces. Man i see some poeple here trying to rat on old breeders and hazed up genetics to can sell new strains like Gucci,versace,gelato and shits. All of that smells i had before when strains had nam like skunkxafgan,master kushxafghan,super skunk etc..etc...Also what is G13 it is some kind pf paki,gani plant called by someone we surley dont know any lineage but we can use our senses and our brain to compare them. Please man i told you you are listening stories and grow G13 indica fisrt you need skill to grow haze,than smoke it than comaper it and dont trust any story expecialy that stories from soma. Like rasta come to me and gave me best seeds in NY and from that come Diesel. Soma is 100% comemrcial hippy and that is all.
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IncenseRosemary
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=155339&page=8
Also i see that real growers and people who have grown and smoked every haze cut in holland,you know better then them cuz u were 1 time in coffe shop and smoked some amnesia from that i see that you are not so inteligent,open minded what is must to see truth and be matematic sience guy. I stop now wrighting cuz your and my mind cant go together. My mind is much more powerfull and i dont believe what something said if i hade evidence that it is bullshit. This forum makes no sense when people without practice like you saying some bullshit comerc stories around here. What u know about Amnesias or haze what u have grown of it ??? G13 croseed to who knows what and u compared that to G13haze comn are you joking here or what ??? for me g13 without haze in it is shity indica stoned high with bad taste. Please GOATCHEESE go make some cheese and grow some hazes than wright something here instead of spreding lies and missinforamtions.
Also i see that real growers and people who have grown and smoked every haze cut in holland,you know better then them cuz u were 1 time in coffe shop and smoked some amnesia from that i see that you are not so inteligent,open minded what is must to see truth and be matematic sience guy. I stop now wrighting cuz your and my mind cant go together. My mind is much more powerfull and i dont believe what something said if i hade evidence that it is bullshit. This forum makes no sense when people without practice like you saying some bullshit comerc stories around here. What u know about Amnesias or haze what u have grown of it ??? G13 croseed to who knows what and u compared that to G13haze comn are you joking here or what ??? for me g13 without haze in it is shity indica stoned high with bad taste. Please GOATCHEESE go make some cheese and grow some hazes than wright something here instead of spreding lies and missinforamtions.
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IncenseRosemary
''I have been looking at alot of SSH and Nevil's Haze pictures in recent months and i don't think Soma's Amnesia Haze is related to them, nor to Nevil's G13Haze. You can find alot of pictures of these Haze hybrids on MrNice forums.''
This is your quote you are real funny man goat please grow some and stop looking problem here is that u cant smell and taste through the screen. Also i see some people who say that they growing from 1972 whose plant burend in sun if they start indoor after moving out this forum is full of retrded liars like you and noob idiots. Who spread missinfos and make out shit of good idea like ICMAG is.
This is your quote you are real funny man goat please grow some and stop looking problem here is that u cant smell and taste through the screen. Also i see some people who say that they growing from 1972 whose plant burend in sun if they start indoor after moving out this forum is full of retrded liars like you and noob idiots. Who spread missinfos and make out shit of good idea like ICMAG is.
"Grow G13 indica first, man, and then use your brain" LOL
WTF?!
That is my G13 leaning keeper i showed you, dummy! How about you start using your brain.
How does your G13 keeper genetics look like? LOL
Yea, grow some, maaaaan.
Here she is again:
Blaah, blaah People in USA can buy SSH, Nevil's and Amnesia Haze from MrNice, GHS and Soma just as easily as Europeans can. Your argument holds no water and you know it.
"Soma is a capitalist hippy" isn't a valid argument either. So what? So was Nevil, so is Shanti and Green House seeds. They're all into selling seeds for good amount of money.
quit being childish and ignorant.
And i have smoked many haze hybrids based on Nevil's dutch Hazes. And i have personally grown some. I didn't really like any of them. Nothing special to me.
I've smoked the SSH cut from GHS coffeeshop in Amsterdam and it's nothing like Soma's AH. Why would i grow SSH when i didn't like it in the coffeeshop over a decade ago? Just because it's legendary?
I don't like NL5 that Nevil used in SSH/Jack Herer and Nevil's Haze, and i don't like his Hazes either, i don't like the effects, and Soma's Cup winning AH cut is nothing like SSH, Nevil's HAze or C99 or any of them. You don't think i'd notice NL5 and the Haze males in Amnesia Haze when i really don't like their effects?? ..and these genetics aren't there.
But you can link me few threads to read?? LOL. That will help.
Since you like to read grow threads, go read and look at pictures of Soma's NYCD and Amnesia Haze and then try to explain why both have similar phenos from his Afghan/Hawaiian male in it. Red-ish afghani leaning plants. These look nothing like Haze/nl5/G13 hybrids from Nevil.
Here's link and description of Amnesia Haze from Soma's web site:
..you can go a head and keep on pushing your internet theories about SSH and G13Haze being used in his Amnesia Haze. But he clearly states which lines were used i AH. Keep it up. Never admit you're on the wrong. People on web forums, like you, surely know it better than Soma himself.
You continue to ignore the fact that Soma used SE Asian and Central American genetics in his AH and genetics from the same areas were used in making the Haze also. You just want to believe it was the same plants used, not just genetics from same areas. Naive and narrow minded assumption. But keep at it. What ever.
I can't be bothered to continue this stupidity any longer. Call me an American and newbie smoker, i don't care.
https://www.somaseeds.nl/seeds/amnesia-haze
Description:
Amnesia Haze won first prize at the High Times Cannabis Cup 2012.
Amnesia Haze is a very complicated genetic cross. You have the magnificent Southeast Asian genetics (Thai sticks, Cambodian, Laotian) of which were my all time favorites. Then you have the fine Jamaican Hazevarieties with their high THC percentage and sharp flavor. It also has an Afghani-Hawaiian genetic crossed in, speeding up the flowering time and further enhancing the taste. The result is a strain that has won first place in 3 different cannabis contests in the Netherlands in the past years, including The High Times Cannabis Cup 2004. Barney’s Breakfast Bar won first place for the all-around Cannabis Cup with the Amnesia Haze that he got from me. It has continued to be one of his best sellers to this present date. For a grower the Amnesia Haze is a slight challenge, taking up to 13 weeks to finish flowering, but with the excellent yield and amazing high and taste, it is well worth it.
I was lucky enough to be gifted MNS stock from 08/09 of G13 haze and Critical haze.
I was under the impression they are G13 x Haze C and the AG13haze cut is A5 x G13HzC.
Here are a couple ugly ones..
G13haze
I was under the impression they are G13 x Haze C and the AG13haze cut is A5 x G13HzC.
Here are a couple ugly ones..
G13haze
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Wow! I didn't think of giving life to another discussion ...
Actually I have my ideas about seedbanks, amnesia haze and soma, but it's not the right place to talk about them(Small exception, as Rasta does not approve of the way Soma works and sells, but this is the canna-business, I can't help it ...)...
However, I'm not here to do moralizing, but to talk about strains, I was interested to know if the old authentic G13 haze still exists (in the form of seeds).
Actually I have my ideas about seedbanks, amnesia haze and soma, but it's not the right place to talk about them(Small exception, as Rasta does not approve of the way Soma works and sells, but this is the canna-business, I can't help it ...)...
However, I'm not here to do moralizing, but to talk about strains, I was interested to know if the old authentic G13 haze still exists (in the form of seeds).
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IncenseRosemary
Yes this is perfect exapmles of fems finded in somas amnesia haze seeds longer flower phenos. g13haze dominat
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IncenseRosemary
OK GoatCheese i see that you are lil bit stupid boy with low IQ you dont like facts and believe in stories what u like and judge strains by looking at them through screen. And u were in Amsterdam before 10 years smoked 2 times SSH and u dont like them didnt grow em but you know the are not related cuz i were on mr nice forums and G13 haze dont look like somas Amnesia. You dont like NL and NL is almost every strain u had grown. More u talk more i see that you are really dump boy stupid and big soma fan cuz soma is god what he said its truth. Nevile grow more seeds than soma comerc hippy shit sells. But i will show you core cut vs soma cut in pictures and then u will recognize when u see them smoke and smell through the screen.
Left is SOMA champion cut from 04 held by ESKO crew right is SSH core cut aka Amnesia
Left is SOMA champion cut from 04 held by ESKO crew right is SSH core cut aka Amnesia
