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RDWC ( kind of ) 400W Shiva Skunk grow log (newb+pics)
- Thread starter erwingruber
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erwingruber
Member
Hello icmagers ,
As i promise you today i have pictures for you and i am open to every sugestions that you may have.
I put some ph down as always and a take some pictures of my girls
i dont like much my canopy cause i find it too bushy , the bigger top is almost 16 inches (40 cm ) over the canopy and idealy i would like the bigger top to be 8 inches or 20 cm over the scgrog net.
Anyway i will learn to manage scrog soon.
@Mr.Jones at 0,5 gpw i wouldn't be happy at 0,7 gpw i will start smiling
Anyway photos.
Hair is start forming
Cannopy
Side view where you can see that i fail scrogging
Root zone the roots may appear brown in the photo but they are
white , i am bored to corect this in Photoshop
Thats it for now Thank you all for helping me out in my first Hydro.
As i promise you today i have pictures for you and i am open to every sugestions that you may have.
I put some ph down as always and a take some pictures of my girls
i dont like much my canopy cause i find it too bushy , the bigger top is almost 16 inches (40 cm ) over the canopy and idealy i would like the bigger top to be 8 inches or 20 cm over the scgrog net.
Anyway i will learn to manage scrog soon.
@Mr.Jones at 0,5 gpw i wouldn't be happy at 0,7 gpw i will start smiling
Anyway photos.
Hair is start forming
Cannopy
Side view where you can see that i fail scrogging
Root zone the roots may appear brown in the photo but they are
white , i am bored to corect this in Photoshop
Thats it for now Thank you all for helping me out in my first Hydro.
erwingruber
Member
Hello everyone ,
Today i make a res change and mix my solution with
Lucas formula at 0-1-2 ratio at 1245(.7) ppm .
Unfortunatly the root mass is as big as needed so i cannot clean my res as i
would like.I can spot fractions of roots flowing in my solution and i am searching
for a solution to this .
Maybe a filter or something , any ideas is welcome.
Today i make a res change and mix my solution with
Lucas formula at 0-1-2 ratio at 1245(.7) ppm .
Unfortunatly the root mass is as big as needed so i cannot clean my res as i
would like.I can spot fractions of roots flowing in my solution and i am searching
for a solution to this .
Maybe a filter or something , any ideas is welcome.
erwingruber
Member
i google it
aquarium mesh pot and i see just net pots give me a link to
understand what are you talking about
aquarium mesh pot and i see just net pots give me a link to
understand what are you talking about
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redeyesurprise
maybe you could put a piece of nylon stocking or one of those lint traps that you can get for your clothes washer over your return?
erwingruber
Member
Hello icmagers ,
Sorry for the delay on the update but nothing special going on
except that i loose totaly the scrog game .
My tops is 60 cm(23 inches) over the scrog net when
my plans was for the half of this.Anyway next time i will know.
My solution remains in Lucas formula temps are around 21 celsius (70F)
My girls drinking up almost 3 liters a day and they look 100% healthy.
My solutions ppm and ph movements remain a mystery.
ppms going up (without topping off with water) wich means that
my girls drink more water than nutes.
The rule says that when ppms rising ph must falling but this is not
working like this in my case ,
my ph updrifting everyday from 5,3 to 5,9 or 6,0
and my ppms updrift 10-30 units per day (without topping off with water)
i am tired chasing my ph and as long as the firls look ok i give them
5-6 ml GH's ph down to bring down their solutions ph.
Shiva Skunk completes flowering in 45-55 days and i am on day 19.
Probably i will harvest at 55 days watching closely for the amber tricromes .
The first buds start forming , i remove enough fan leafes that shading
budsites and for now the only think i can do is step back and watching
them.
I have a few pics for you and i will post some more tommorow
How to loose a scrog game
First bud formations
Thanks everyone
Sorry for the delay on the update but nothing special going on
except that i loose totaly the scrog game .
My tops is 60 cm(23 inches) over the scrog net when
my plans was for the half of this.Anyway next time i will know.
My solution remains in Lucas formula temps are around 21 celsius (70F)
My girls drinking up almost 3 liters a day and they look 100% healthy.
My solutions ppm and ph movements remain a mystery.
ppms going up (without topping off with water) wich means that
my girls drink more water than nutes.
The rule says that when ppms rising ph must falling but this is not
working like this in my case ,
my ph updrifting everyday from 5,3 to 5,9 or 6,0
and my ppms updrift 10-30 units per day (without topping off with water)
i am tired chasing my ph and as long as the firls look ok i give them
5-6 ml GH's ph down to bring down their solutions ph.
Shiva Skunk completes flowering in 45-55 days and i am on day 19.
Probably i will harvest at 55 days watching closely for the amber tricromes .
The first buds start forming , i remove enough fan leafes that shading
budsites and for now the only think i can do is step back and watching
them.
I have a few pics for you and i will post some more tommorow
How to loose a scrog game
First bud formations
Thanks everyone
Mr.Jones
Active member
Hello icmagers ,
Sorry for the delay on the update but nothing special going on
except that i loose totaly the scrog game .
My tops is 60 cm(23 inches) over the scrog net when
my plans was for the half of this.Anyway next time i will know.
My solution remains in Lucas formula temps are around 21 celsius (70F)
My girls drinking up almost 3 liters a day and they look 100% healthy.
My solutions ppm and ph movements remain a mystery.
ppms going up (without topping off with water) wich means that
my girls drink more water than nutes.
The rule says that when ppms rising ph must falling but this is not
working like this in my case ,
my ph updrifting everyday from 5,3 to 5,9 or 6,0
and my ppms updrift 10-30 units per day (without topping off with water)
i am tired chasing my ph and as long as the firls look ok i give them
5-6 ml GH's ph down to bring down their solutions ph.
Shiva Skunk completes flowering in 45-55 days and i am on day 19.
Probably i will harvest at 55 days watching closely for the amber tricromes .
The first buds start forming , i remove enough fan leafes that shading
budsites and for now the only think i can do is step back and watching
them.
I have a few pics for you and i will post some more tommorow
How to loose a scrog game
First bud formations
Thanks everyone
looking good! yeah the scrog might just be useless in your case
slight burnt tips you got but thats ok (in my case im always aiming for that)
keep on goin
erwin for a noob hydro grower you are doing great job bro!
maybe we loose the scrog game but we wait a good crop..
did i tell you that i grow shiva skunk??? in the past in my soilless
grows..i found it very nice with a good flavor and taste..is true!!
so dont worry about your scrog and think the buds you make...
has nothing 2 do with the big bud..
maybe we loose the scrog game but we wait a good crop..
did i tell you that i grow shiva skunk??? in the past in my soilless
grows..i found it very nice with a good flavor and taste..is true!!
so dont worry about your scrog and think the buds you make...
has nothing 2 do with the big bud..
erwingruber
Member
Hey Mr.Jones & tjo
Do you think that i must remove my scrog screen and try
to open up somehow my canopy for better light penetration? ( tie them somehow )
@ MR.jones
It is true but it sooo slight i try to push them @ 1300ppm(.7) but they
don't really can eat all that food.I try to push them cause they are
finishing soon and if i flush for 10 days i have only 3 weeks more to feed
them.
@tjo
I am happy to hear about flavor and taste but what about the buzz
from Shiva skunk
Do you think that i must remove my scrog screen and try
to open up somehow my canopy for better light penetration? ( tie them somehow )
@ MR.jones
It is true but it sooo slight i try to push them @ 1300ppm(.7) but they
don't really can eat all that food.I try to push them cause they are
finishing soon and if i flush for 10 days i have only 3 weeks more to feed
them.
@tjo
I am happy to hear about flavor and taste but what about the buzz
from Shiva skunk
no..also your space is not that big so let it be, and dont remove
your screen.thats my opinion erwin..aucource you can do whatever
you want but only damage i see with removing your screen now.
Mr.Jones
Active member
so heres the deal:
this might be painful but in order to get higher quality and quantity ...
i would cut everything away that i circled in the picture - everything that is below 10cm under the other ones i would just cut away
the stuff below will only give you shitty not dense bud and will cost you yield.
now is the time - when they start packing weight it might be too late!
erwingruber
Member
Thank you everyone for helping me here
to make it through mt first hydro grow.
I love this forum cause evryone is here
to help you without asking nothing as
a return.Our wold would be a better place
if can work this way.Anyway.
@tjo
You inspired me to go hydro so i will keep
your advice and my scrog net.Thanks
@Mr.Jones
Thanks for spending your time trying to help
me i promise that i will give back to the community
with any knowledge i take from the community.
Today i spot the marked branches and some more
like them that are hiding from you bellow the canopy.
Tomorrow i will remove them and yes it is a painfull
procedure.It will be better if i follow your advice two weeks
earlier when you told me to do it put .. it is
a painful decision so forgive me.
@Tricky1
Yes not everything is lost but i lost the scrog game
BIG TIME and i didn't even understand why ?
maybe cause evrytime i make a training session i brake
some budsites and i was afraid to continue trining them.
Anyway next round i will be better.
I top off 9 (2+ gallons) liters of pure R/O water today and drop
my ppms to 1120(.7) i don't addback nutes and i will
keep the solution this way just for today so i can monitor
the ppms movement.
I am start planing the timing for taking clones from the Shiva mother worst case (55 days)
i will harvest this 4 shivas so i have 5 weeks ahead before the new clones go for flowering.
So 2 weeks for roots to appear and
2 to 3 weeks under my floros and after that i will throw 12 clones
to 12/12 inside my small closet.
It is going to be a jungle in there i think.
Thats it for today , tommorow i will be back with photos of
how to murder small budsites :(
Some photos for you
Yes it is true i think that this glizing "powder" start to coming on my busites
Some root mass the smell form the res is nice
Canopy
And Erwins failed scrog
to make it through mt first hydro grow.
I love this forum cause evryone is here
to help you without asking nothing as
a return.Our wold would be a better place
if can work this way.Anyway.
@tjo
You inspired me to go hydro so i will keep
your advice and my scrog net.Thanks
@Mr.Jones
Thanks for spending your time trying to help
me i promise that i will give back to the community
with any knowledge i take from the community.
Today i spot the marked branches and some more
like them that are hiding from you bellow the canopy.
Tomorrow i will remove them and yes it is a painfull
procedure.It will be better if i follow your advice two weeks
earlier when you told me to do it put .. it is
a painful decision so forgive me.
@Tricky1
Yes not everything is lost but i lost the scrog game
BIG TIME and i didn't even understand why ?
maybe cause evrytime i make a training session i brake
some budsites and i was afraid to continue trining them.
Anyway next round i will be better.
I top off 9 (2+ gallons) liters of pure R/O water today and drop
my ppms to 1120(.7) i don't addback nutes and i will
keep the solution this way just for today so i can monitor
the ppms movement.
I am start planing the timing for taking clones from the Shiva mother worst case (55 days)
i will harvest this 4 shivas so i have 5 weeks ahead before the new clones go for flowering.
So 2 weeks for roots to appear and
2 to 3 weeks under my floros and after that i will throw 12 clones
to 12/12 inside my small closet.
It is going to be a jungle in there i think.
Thats it for today , tommorow i will be back with photos of
how to murder small budsites :(
Some photos for you
Yes it is true i think that this glizing "powder" start to coming on my busites
Some root mass the smell form the res is nice
Canopy
And Erwins failed scrog
nice shots..
i notice your flowers are much bigger than mine..maybe because
that strain finished earlier...
also i saw signs of heat stress in your leaves.. keep an eye in your temp..
..and stop blame your self aboyt the scrog game.you almost 2 steps before a nice harvest.for your very first hydro you are doing better job than others who knows more than you..
i notice your flowers are much bigger than mine..maybe because
that strain finished earlier...
also i saw signs of heat stress in your leaves.. keep an eye in your temp..
..and stop blame your self aboyt the scrog game.you almost 2 steps before a nice harvest.for your very first hydro you are doing better job than others who knows more than you..
Mr.Jones
Active member
yeah - clean them out - you wont regret it ...
well you are doing great and as long as you have enough space towards the top you will a superb harvest ...
your grow reminds me on one of my first hydro ones some years back:
i have still some of that left - kick ass dope
erwingruber
Member
@tjo
If they are bigger you must consider exactly what you are thinking
i have 3-4 weeks more to feed them before flush and you have 8 weeks.
You girls is going to make some serious huge buds under those lights
i can wait to see them.
My canopy temps is 26-28 Celsius but i don't want to raise my lights
cause it is only 400W and i have a jungle there.
I am not crying for the scrog game i am just trying to realize
where is my mistake , anyway i am happy for my first Hydro run
but i will not speak until dry it.
@Mr.Jones
Today i clean enough , u have a jungle there too wich is the strain ?
Well for your updates today i try to remove the smaller budsites
i say i try cause my partner screaming over me you are a bucher
leave this bud site alive ,leave the other bud site alive get out
of here and all this stuff , i finaly manage to remove enough
of them but not as much as i will put down if i was alone.
I remove the thin ones that they are more than 15 cm below
the canopy and he fin't allow me to remove the left low ones
cause they have thick brances anyway.
I took 3 clones also from the shiva mother the 3 higher tops
cause they are touching my floro and burn them selfs , i put some
clonex and in some budsites that i trim and put the in rockwool
as an experiment you will see photos.
My ppm even in 1150(.7) keep rising i found it 1170(.7) today
i think that it is cause my girls drinking water like crazy.
Tomorrow i will raise it back to 1250(.7) and i would like
to reach 1300+(.7) cause i have a few weeks more to feed them
I will give you some photos now and i will update when i will
have some growth in my budsites .. hoping soon
Mother and new clones
Maybe you can notice the buded clones
While murdering small budsites
I remove almost every budsite like this
If they are bigger you must consider exactly what you are thinking
i have 3-4 weeks more to feed them before flush and you have 8 weeks.
You girls is going to make some serious huge buds under those lights
i can wait to see them.
My canopy temps is 26-28 Celsius but i don't want to raise my lights
cause it is only 400W and i have a jungle there.
I am not crying for the scrog game i am just trying to realize
where is my mistake , anyway i am happy for my first Hydro run
but i will not speak until dry it.
@Mr.Jones
Today i clean enough , u have a jungle there too wich is the strain ?
Well for your updates today i try to remove the smaller budsites
i say i try cause my partner screaming over me you are a bucher
leave this bud site alive ,leave the other bud site alive get out
of here and all this stuff , i finaly manage to remove enough
of them but not as much as i will put down if i was alone.
I remove the thin ones that they are more than 15 cm below
the canopy and he fin't allow me to remove the left low ones
cause they have thick brances anyway.
I took 3 clones also from the shiva mother the 3 higher tops
cause they are touching my floro and burn them selfs , i put some
clonex and in some budsites that i trim and put the in rockwool
as an experiment you will see photos.
My ppm even in 1150(.7) keep rising i found it 1170(.7) today
i think that it is cause my girls drinking water like crazy.
Tomorrow i will raise it back to 1250(.7) and i would like
to reach 1300+(.7) cause i have a few weeks more to feed them
I will give you some photos now and i will update when i will
have some growth in my budsites .. hoping soon
Mother and new clones
Maybe you can notice the buded clones
While murdering small budsites
I remove almost every budsite like this
Mr.Jones
Active member
@tjo
If they are bigger you must consider exactly what you are thinking
i have 3-4 weeks more to feed them before flush and you have 8 weeks.
You girls is going to make some serious huge buds under those lights
i can wait to see them.
My canopy temps is 26-28 Celsius but i don't want to raise my lights
cause it is only 400W and i have a jungle there.
I am not crying for the scrog game i am just trying to realize
where is my mistake , anyway i am happy for my first Hydro run
but i will not speak until dry it.
@Mr.Jones
Today i clean enough , u have a jungle there too wich is the strain ?
Well for your updates today i try to remove the smaller budsites
i say i try cause my partner screaming over me you are a bucher
leave this bud site alive ,leave the other bud site alive get out
of here and all this stuff , i finaly manage to remove enough
of them but not as much as i will put down if i was alone.
I remove the thin ones that they are more than 15 cm below
the canopy and he fin't allow me to remove the left low ones
cause they have thick brances anyway.
I took 3 clones also from the shiva mother the 3 higher tops
cause they are touching my floro and burn them selfs , i put some
clonex and in some budsites that i trim and put the in rockwool
as an experiment you will see photos.
My ppm even in 1150(.7) keep rising i found it 1170(.7) today
i think that it is cause my girls drinking water like crazy.
Tomorrow i will raise it back to 1250(.7) and i would like
to reach 1300+(.7) cause i have a few weeks more to feed them
I will give you some photos now and i will update when i will
have some growth in my budsites .. hoping soon
Mother and new clones
Maybe you can notice the buded clones
While murdering small budsites
I remove almost every budsite like this
have pics of your canopy?
would love to see them!
well i know removing plant material is always hard - you'll see the more weak branches you remove the better you are.
the strain was g13xssh - pretty sick one
erwingruber
Member
Hello everyone some updates and a lot of pictures for you.
Mr.Jones i have the canopy photos especialy for you.
Well i am happy not only because everything seems to going fine but
because my Shiva mother after toping off the 3 bigger tops of her in
two days time respond and start growing 6 tops .
Also i have an update for my balcony Big Bud.Well this balcony
Big Bud start from a clone that is going to the trashcan ,i decide to give
him one last opportunity to survive and throw him in my balcony.
This clone it was taken for a vegging plant that germinate from seed one year
before now.Well my balcony Big Bud alone harvest more than my 400W closet.
Before 4 days i found one BIG fat seed in one dried bud.It is the only seed that i found
in 30 Big Bud plants that i grow.I start germination for the seed with no hope
that it will germinate cause it was to dry and with a small crack.Well Big Bud
don't like to leave me without That strain and the dried seed germinate and waiting
a new home . I will give to him a party cup of soil just to see what is going to happen.
I will post some photos from Big Bud history and feature.
Enough with those Big Buds.
Tommorow or the day after i will make a res change wirh R/O + tap water mix starting @
120(.7) ppm , just to try stabilize my ph updrifts.
Some phototos now from young budsites and my canopy
I can spot some weak budsites that i must remove but i cannot my partener yelling.
Big bud History
The past
The feature
Mr.Jones i have the canopy photos especialy for you.
Well i am happy not only because everything seems to going fine but
because my Shiva mother after toping off the 3 bigger tops of her in
two days time respond and start growing 6 tops .
Also i have an update for my balcony Big Bud.Well this balcony
Big Bud start from a clone that is going to the trashcan ,i decide to give
him one last opportunity to survive and throw him in my balcony.
This clone it was taken for a vegging plant that germinate from seed one year
before now.Well my balcony Big Bud alone harvest more than my 400W closet.
Before 4 days i found one BIG fat seed in one dried bud.It is the only seed that i found
in 30 Big Bud plants that i grow.I start germination for the seed with no hope
that it will germinate cause it was to dry and with a small crack.Well Big Bud
don't like to leave me without That strain and the dried seed germinate and waiting
a new home . I will give to him a party cup of soil just to see what is going to happen.
I will post some photos from Big Bud history and feature.
Enough with those Big Buds.
Tommorow or the day after i will make a res change wirh R/O + tap water mix starting @
120(.7) ppm , just to try stabilize my ph updrifts.
Some phototos now from young budsites and my canopy
I can spot some weak budsites that i must remove but i cannot my partener yelling.
Big bud History
The past
The feature
