RC.....RELEASED!!

[MynameStitch]

so was the servers siezed by the rcmp?
how the hell did rc find out he was being investigated

gypsy i will be buying some of those seeds just to get the money to RC's fund when you guys start up im going to put in as much as i can
because everything i have is because i learned from OG

how long do seeds stay good for when they are kept in the right conditions?

oh and gypsy those freebies i got i germed them longer at your request and i never got them to germ

this was back in sep 2005 when i talked to you though

 

[Guest]

Could I offer a bowl of seditives to ease the waiting time.

 

[Guest]

Chance are good that they have been doing the same as they did with ME. they got the orders and mail before he did from what I've read so that subject. If you order illegal seeds and gave your home address, growing address, you and your family could be in deep shit...

Thats why I never ordered from Canada.

Thats also why know that I have my genetics base I will never order again

 

[NightFire]

so was the servers siezed by the rcmp?
how the hell did rc find out he was being investigated

From what I've read...all over the place... The servers are safe. OP said that RC was able to shut them down and wipe the IP's.

This part is questionable to me: RC was contacted by the server host about an investigation the day before the servers went down.
However, from what I'm able to figure out, RC had physical access to the servers, which would mean he did not go through a server host company. It's possible that the company that the overgrow domain was registered at was contacted, and in turn contacted RC. Web server details like this are not something I know a lot about though.

 

[IronLung OG]

why do we need to get seeds for RC's Fund..... fuck that, all fromer og members who learned and benifited from OG should kick in 5-10 bucks x 100,000 people = enough cash...... I understand that the benifit charity auction mentioned is a great idea, and that no profits will be made. BUT I just think..... OG taught me how to grow, it took my life from shit, to amazing. Simply put... without overgrow I would never beable to afford college, have 1/2 the self-confidence I have, or the indepence to enjoy a life that I could never dreamed of.... that to me is a srong statement.

anyway we have taken enough from OG can we rally aroung our leader, and shock the world with an overwhelming show of support in the terms of cash.... I belive all we need is a PO box for RC and it will be full everyday with modest donations..... I don't want seeds I want to send a handwritten letter of support and as much cash as I have in my wallet.

 

[tartass]

Imo reports that he pulled the plugs on the servers,beforehand,shows an extraordinary amount of caring for the online community he helped foster.

Naaaaaa only 2 posts stick in my mind over and over

this one from DMAN

Hi Folks,

All I keep reading is about the MEMBERS of OG/CW worried about their safety, and rightly so. As stated before, one should be aware of your own security while growing. But what most of you forget is this just isn't about growing. I said this earlier...being a member of an MJ board is one thing, being on the pay-roll of the currently biggest seed retailer in Canada every other month is a completely different aspect of this situation.

RC was high profile just for OG alone, and he certainly wasn't naive enough to think he wasn't being watched by LEO. For ABSOLUTELY NO credible (no offense OP/Gypsy) info to be released about this ALLEGED bust by this point is in-excusable IMHO. If it was me, I would being doing back-flips thru my attorney/friends/relatives to get the word out to those all vendors who I had REGULAR bank transactions with, that they are/may be at risk. RC would only pay one way...paper-trail, I'll leave it at that. Having said that, sure we are all responsible for our own security, but for the seed vendors who dealt with HS/C-bay....the only way to do biz with RC was to breach that security.

I trusted RC with my legit name and addy for those payments, as did all the other vendors....it's the only way we could get paid. Would you not be concerned as to WTF is REALLY going on with your legit personal/banking info? IF RC was busted, then the media outlets would find out sooner or later anyways, so why not let them try and dig up CREDIBLE info. IMHO....the only way informing the media outlets could possibley hurt RC at this point...is IF this whole fiasco has been fabricated right from the get-go. And...if he did get busted and CAN'T get word out (for whatever reason) then letting the media run with it will surely help those who may be next in the line of fire.

Just my $.02
__________________________
Keep On Growin',
Dman

Yeah so if hes been released and there is an investigation one would really hope he has made contact with the vendors by now.Since GN can get through

Thanks for the update gypsy but ive learnt nothing new.

 

[happycabbyman]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4638.html

 

[Guest]

I don't think people are doubting Gypsy's word. I don't think you guys are using the term "troll" in the right situation here. Alot of people have been using that as a defense lately it seems. Easy way out, just cry "troll"

Many people just concerned after all that has gone on with the MJ boards the last couple years.....drama, ect.....

Emotions are high....... I need to get high.

 

[Poof I'm Gone]

Ok I guess I'm done, this will be my last post (I think) in these "what happened" threads.
I had a bunch to say after reading all the post in all the related threads in the last 4 hrs or so but now that I've thought about it I see that it's pointless and half of it would probably get me kicked off or it will just get deleted so what's the point.

I'll just bring up a few points and things I know and leave it at that.
I'm not going to go back through all these threads and quote all the lame ass things said and misinformation. Too much work. I'll go from memory so I might get some stuff just a hair off... flame me for it.

1. Evidently there are many posters here that are new to this seed business and the internet MJ boards or are just totaly blinded and loyale to their board no matter what. Be it ICMAG,CW,OG or CC

I've been prevy to many facts of the behind the scenes going on's of these boards and the people that run them. There is not one that hasn't done some shitty stuff to folks, lied, mislead, and backstabbed people for their own personal gain.

The seed business is the most dirty, crooked, dishonest business I've ever had the pleasure of comming across. Some of the stuff I've seen and been told has just floored me. Some of these board owners and their groupie breeders should have their ass kicked. Us members have been scamed for ages by many. They fool you by donating seeds to "The cause" "Giving out freebies" ect ect. Making you think they are here to help the med. community and to change MJ laws. LoL
They are here to make money...nothing wrong with that it's just how you go about doing it.

This is a multi million dollar business folks and an illegal one at that. What happens when you mix big $$$ with illegal activities? People get fk'd that's what happens and the folks at the top of the food chain get rich. Greed takes over the best of intentions.

2. Comments about RC, Gypsy and Marc providing a place for us to converse and share and that we should be grateful for it.

Wake up! These boards are nothing more than a cash cow. They are a living breathing advertisement for their seeds and breeders. Word of mouth is the best advertisement there is and you can't buy advertisement like we the members provide.
If we all walked and quit promoting all these strains the board owners would shit and be begging folks to come back. It would hurt business big time!

3. No one (board owners/breeders) have a reason to lie about this. They are all buddies really when it comes down to it.

Bullshit!...see post #1 Plenty of reasons to lie and Bullshit us, too many to list really.
Not saying they are right now but there is plenty of motive and that's a fact.

I've kind of lost my train of thought here so I'm going to jump to the next thing real quick.

We are doing excattly what LEO wants. We need to stick together as a group. No CW against OG, OG against ICMAG all of us against CC..LoL That's hard isn't it.

Fk all these board owners and breeders, it's about us the members and growers of these boards. We are the ones on the front line putting it out there risking our families freedom for the plant and a little pleasure. Not to say that some of these folks don't take risks too but they get paid very well for it. I don't and I don't think most you don't either.

Do any of you realize MJ is worth more than gold? And that if you go after just seeds it blows away the price of growing for buds? Give that some deep thought.
A fully seeded plant can be worth $100,000+ where as in buds it's worth 3-6K
Naaa...no room for corruption or greed there. How many seeds do you get when you go buy wild flowers at Wall Mart for $2...Think about it...these folks are getting rich.

This last week has really made me do a lot of thinking about all these boards and the seed business in general, not that I haven't been doing it for a along time but this recent stuff has really motivated me again.

I have a very close knit circle of friends who feel basically the same way. We are all fed up with the insane seed prices and the genetics hoarding. Between us we have or can get any of those "who's dick to I have to suck to get it" strains folks want. We have been talking and hopefully soon you will see reasonable high quality genetics for sale. I like to see so and so charge $50-$300 for strain xxx when they can get it for $20

That's about it...in closing I'll add, out of all the breeders I've met and talked to there are about 4 (commercial) that I truly trust and are doing what they do for the right reasons and truly have a heart of gold and want to help....one posted here recently and that is Dman. The rest know who they are and how I feel about them.

See ya, I'm going back to my corner now and just watch for awhile.
Have fun and sorry if I pissed anyone off...too bad.

Edit:
I didn't say half of what I really wanted to say.

 

[Guest]

I almost hate to add to all the noise here but I really find some of the posts quite offensive. I appologize to the ICMAG crowd and GN for any abuse you are taking. I realize that people are upset and scared. That\'s OK. But acting calm in a messy and and complicated situation is the constructive thing we can do.

There are several points that IMHO it would be good to keep in mind:

1. Understand that there is little firm information available. No amount of complaining about that is going to change the situation. It is the nature of this type of situation that rumour runs rampant. Information will come out in time.

2. RC, if arrested, has a lot more to worry about than your comfort or even you r safety right now. His liberty, family and finances are at stake. Yes it would be nice if you got your seeds. It would be great to know that your name is not in police custody. I hope that is all true. But you, sadly, are not at the top of his or anyone else\'s agenda except yours.

3. Realize that he is not free to communicate. When you are involved with the legal system you cannot talk freely because anything you say may be used against you to make the charges worse or attack your defense. Whether he wants to care for his customers or not, he does not have an option at this time.

4. If you have sent in a order for seeds with your home address, I suggest that you consider cleaning house. Don\'t waste time and energy complaining about the situation -- protect yourself as best you can.

In the words of Colin Powell: remain calm, be kind.

Kent

 

[Guest]

Ok I guess I'm done, this will be my last post (I think) in these "what happened" threads.
I had a bunch to say after reading all the post in all the related threads in the last 4 hrs or so but now that I've thought about it I see that it's pointless and half of it would probably get me kicked off or it will just get deleted so what's the point.

yep you got that right
this is a team site we work as a team and we don't need detractors here
you say you were privy to the running of these boards that I doubt
and as far as

The seed business is the most dirty, crooked, dishonest business I've ever had the pleasure of comming across. Some of the stuff I've seen and been told has just floored me.

thats bullshit I've worked with Gypsy and RC for years now and both have always been above board
and if I thought otherwise I wouldn't be here as I am a grower myself

bye now don't let the door hit you on the ass

OP

 

[Guest]

Hey Gypsy,your initial post here you claim that you just got a creditble source telling you that RC just got out,all day in prelim...in court. And that the RCMP are still gathering evidence.
In Canada theres noway he had prelim soo soon,here you have a prelim after ALL evidence has be sudmitted to see if there is enough evidence for a trial. This prelim is altleast a few court apperances away,even with a speddy trial??? Could he have meant bail hearing???

PS-by the way,send RC our good vibes.peace

 

[WeedMafia]

Gypsy does'nt lie,in fact,i'm sure he is offended to some degree...i have been aquainted with GN through this and another handle for a couple of years now and one thing i've seen that he protects is his integrity.

as more info becomes available i'm sure it will be revealed to all.

Just chill.

WeedMafia

 

[older toker]

Calm Down

Calm Down

Can't believe some of the shit I am seeing here. If LEO is watching this board he must be laughing his ass off at the accusations, infighting and just plain horseshit that is flying around here. We are all on the same side or should be so calm down, have a toke (or two or three). I am sure all will be revealed in good time.

 

[Guest]

"A fully seeded plant can be worth $100,000+ where as in buds it's worth 3-6K..."

Just another stupid discourse showing why you're No Longer Welcome.

Idiot.

No seeded plant produces $100K worth of beans,and very very few single plants would ever produce $3K,let alone $6K.

Good riddance.

 

[Guest]

 

[Guest423]

half you people are a bunch of cry babies, who are you to need proof? do you think your that important that everyone needs to find you a bunch of facts? a man is/could be in a bunch of shit, all you paranoid freaks just found out that the servers were shut down so get over it. no one cares if you believe anything or not. gypsy said what he knows so believe him or not, if you think that everything is a scam then don't buy any seeds for his fund if there is one.....so STFU and get over it.

like any of them need to set up a scam to sell a few more seeds, the seed business is booming.

I GOT A NEW IDEA FOR A FORUM GYPSY AND MODS......SET UP THE CRY BABY FORUM.

peace

 

[Guest]

I GOT A NEW IDEA FOR A FORUM GYPSY AND MODS......SET UP THE CRY BABY FORUM.

We did,it's called THE BIN.

 

[all messed up]

This thread isn't locked yet? Damn Gypsy you're being extra nice. OG might have been slow but the lock was pretty quick at times. One problem with all this speculation is other threads are gathering dust. We must all take a deep breath and calm down.

 

[Guest]

well stitch never had his modest and on-topic questions answered, lemmesee if i can help .

so was the servers siezed by the rcmp?
how the hell did rc find out he was being investigated

gypsy i will be buying some of those seeds just to get the money to RC's fund when you guys start up im going to put in as much as i can
because everything i have is because i learned from OG

how long do seeds stay good for when they are kept in the right conditions?

oh and gypsy those freebies i got i germed them longer at your request and i never got them to germ

this was back in sep 2005 when i talked to you though

how old are the seeds? if kept in ideal conditions they *can* last decades with reduced germination of course but still "good"

as far as seeds you bought online, here's the thing,

the overseas mail does more damage to seeds, for whatever reason, then a few years of age ever could.

i have seeds stored properly now that were given to me in ziplock bags mixed with shake which he had been storing that way in a dry cool dark place for 3 years and all, germ tests show 90%ish on random seeds from that stock..

my advice is if they are mature, solid seeds, that you made yourself, and they are less than 4-5 years old stored in ideal conditions you can sell them on seedbay with no problems at all, if you feel you have to, maybe add a disclaimer stating age?

best of luck and if i had beans made up and available to send in for charity i would, theres always next time

be well