RAW Rolling Papers . . . busted!
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HBI is also a Josh company launched in 1997. Elements is HBI
I will look these up as I respect your opinion on smoking. Elements won me over with OCB in there too I guess. RAW is good but I do not like the fakeness they are doing and that puts the whole show in doubt.
That picture of the mashed up Zig Zag pack brought back memories, it was a wallet essential. Some of the papers used back in the 70's were horrible, as if you tore a page out of a book and rolled with it bad.
I always thought RAW products were over rated. Though I've smoked a few thousand raw
" organic hemp"in my time ! I have bongs that I'll smoke out of at home once In a while, and a vape with whip,/bags which I like too . But Ive ALWAYS been a joint smoker! Still am.
Ive used all kinds of papers over the years.
Nowadays I ONLY smoke Filtered joints( hand rolled )or pre rolled CONES . 95%of the time.
Elements Rice papers, and Elements pre rolled cones are what I'm using now have have been for couple years now .
" organic hemp"in my time ! I have bongs that I'll smoke out of at home once In a while, and a vape with whip,/bags which I like too . But Ive ALWAYS been a joint smoker! Still am.
Ive used all kinds of papers over the years.
Nowadays I ONLY smoke Filtered joints( hand rolled )or pre rolled CONES . 95%of the time.
Elements Rice papers, and Elements pre rolled cones are what I'm using now have have been for couple years now .
As far as prerolled goes Cones are the best I've had but they are expensive.i don't buy prerolls but if someone has arthritis I can see why they might like them. I've seen these grinder machines lately and you put the cone in and then the weed and the grinder dumps in automatically.ill post a link if I remember
I never liked cones. I do use the Raw tips and a simple rolling machine when I roll my 'giveaway' joints or the joints that I take to the bars at night. It's just so much nicer to have that 'built-in roach clip' that the cardboard tips provide.
At home, I hand roll regular old fashioned joints. And, I use a plain old alligator clip for the roach. LOL Old habits...
However, I am thinking of switching to cones for my 'giveaways' and 'bar' joints. At this point, I am rolling over 500 fucking joints a month. Gets to be a pain in the ass. I have been looking at some of the commercial cone fillers but between the machine and the cost of cones compared to papers..... I'm still on the fence about it.
I would love to find and automated joint ROLLING machine but it does not appear that such a thing exists. I have a 'tube stuffer' but, again buying tubes is a pain and expensive compared to papers.
At home, I hand roll regular old fashioned joints. And, I use a plain old alligator clip for the roach. LOL Old habits...
However, I am thinking of switching to cones for my 'giveaways' and 'bar' joints. At this point, I am rolling over 500 fucking joints a month. Gets to be a pain in the ass. I have been looking at some of the commercial cone fillers but between the machine and the cost of cones compared to papers..... I'm still on the fence about it.
I would love to find and automated joint ROLLING machine but it does not appear that such a thing exists. I have a 'tube stuffer' but, again buying tubes is a pain and expensive compared to papers.
Awesome. I tried a pack of elements papers today and liked them aside from the fact I can’t roll for shit anymore after packing premade cones for so long. I’ll give those a whirl.
you will either love it or hate it...like sushi or anchovies
“Elements"..looks interesting.".just pack it in"
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goingrey
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Yeah those are the "cones", other brands also make them (and Elements also makes regular papers).
Never tried any cones myself. Seems like it would be more difficult to funnel the weed into one of those than to put some on a regular paper and roll it up. But people have arthritis or other reasons for not being able to roll, so I like 'em on their behalf.
most people cant roll what i consider good and these cones are single layer. dont see whats hard about just dropping weed in them. gotta make sure its finely ground and they cost a bit. I dont buy them but i can see buying the big ones a couple times a year
goingrey
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Yeah surely it's not difficult especially if ground fine..
But still, seems like the less convenient way to me.
I can roll very good joints but sometimes my hands cramp up on me.they got cheap electric grinders where you put the cone in then the weed and its grinds it in one piece of what I dont,cheap plastic machine for lack of a better word. Honestly I'm not trying to be a dick.you have to grind the weed anyway.how can rolling a good joint which takes skill be easier than taking a piece of paper with weed and letting it drop in the tube? I'm sorry I just fail to see the logic.doesnt matter.i don't smoke much these days anyway.i hope you at least can roll good joints.I will insist I roll the joint because I find most people don't know how to roll.sorry if I come across rude.not my intention
crimsonecho
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The good part of cones is that you can make more than 1 at a time. The Bump Buddy does like 20 to 60. Some of the commercial vibrators can do 50 to 100 cones at a time.
So, your needs dictate your method.
Like I said earlier, for me, and what I smoke at home, I usually just roll joints. But for the hundred a month that I give away, rolling is getting harder. LOL With my little ZigZag rolling machine, I can roll about 20 to 30 joints in about 15 minutes.
Plus, cones require a super fine and dry weed to work. Nothing tastes worse than over dry weed.
JMO
So, your needs dictate your method.
Like I said earlier, for me, and what I smoke at home, I usually just roll joints. But for the hundred a month that I give away, rolling is getting harder. LOL With my little ZigZag rolling machine, I can roll about 20 to 30 joints in about 15 minutes.
Plus, cones require a super fine and dry weed to work. Nothing tastes worse than over dry weed.
JMO
anyone can roll 30 joints in 10 minutes. Question is are they good?The good part of cones is that you can make more than 1 at a time. The Bump Buddy does like 20 to 60. Some of the commercial vibrators can do 50 to 100 cones at a time.
So, your needs dictate your method.
Like I said earlier, for me, and what I smoke at home, I usually just roll joints. But for the hundred a month that I give away, rolling is getting harder. LOL With my little ZigZag rolling machine, I can roll about 20 to 30 joints in about 15 minutes.
Plus, cones require a super fine and dry weed to work. Nothing tastes worse than over dry weed.
JMO
I'd say, fair to good. Have not had any complaints. LOL
not bad. look alot like mine. i tuck the ends in too. My dad taught me that. now i roll better joints then him
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If I do it? Hell no they aren’t good.
Brother other than about 60 packs of papers from Ace over the years, I only buy Bumbu papers. They are recognized as the oldest company in the world from what I've read and heard.
They're my preferred papers for ease of rolling, toughness and lack of added paper taste.
They burn very even if you let them dry before lighting them.
Peace farmerlion
