You didn't have real OG if you think Jillybean is better...Sub wishes his shit was that good, and Dinafem? Autos and S1s...what makes them such great breeders?
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Rate the Breeders
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joejusttyped
My 2 cents....Cats like Karma, Chimera, Loompa, E$kob@r, Classic, Kaiki, and Neville are some of in my opinion the top of the capstone in their own respected rights. Guys like Classic and E$ko have amazing stuff at very very affordable generous prices, Kaiki runs the raw shit, Loompa got the fuckin flame, Neville simply speaks for himself, Chimera is a wealth of information and has a tight lineup of strains, and Karma is probably the most underrated out there that is actually breeding and not pairing up/reversing elites for a quick buck.
You are absolutely wrong on that. In fact, he admitted that doesn't even know what elite cuts he is using. Ex: Shoreline & OG Kush. What respected breeder do you know that says "it's good whatever it is" about their own P1 stock? He sells names and nothing more. It might be dank but you don't know for sure what it actually is, because he doesn't know.
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From what ive grown
KC Brains..... 10 (outdoor)
Cannabiogen...8
Karma......8
Paradise..... 8 ... but declinining
Serious..... 8.... improving with Magus stuff
DJshort.....8
sagmartha.....7
DPassion.....7
HomegrownFantaseeds.....7
Eva Seeds.....7
High Quality.....7
Soma.....7
Dinafem.....7
Barneys..... 7
GHS..... 7
DNA.... 7
Reserva p..... 7
Royal Queen.....7
Sweetseeds......7
Next Generation....7
Sensi..... 6....Started at 9
Mr. Nice.......6
Thseeds......6
Dr. Atomic....5
Tom Hill.....5
Nirvana.....5
Reeferman.....4
KC Brains..... 10 (outdoor)
Cannabiogen...8
Karma......8
Paradise..... 8 ... but declinining
Serious..... 8.... improving with Magus stuff
DJshort.....8
sagmartha.....7
DPassion.....7
HomegrownFantaseeds.....7
Eva Seeds.....7
High Quality.....7
Soma.....7
Dinafem.....7
Barneys..... 7
GHS..... 7
DNA.... 7
Reserva p..... 7
Royal Queen.....7
Sweetseeds......7
Next Generation....7
Sensi..... 6....Started at 9
Mr. Nice.......6
Thseeds......6
Dr. Atomic....5
Tom Hill.....5
Nirvana.....5
Reeferman.....4
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Mtn Dew
Bog
TGA/Subcool
Mosca
Sure winners in any of the above
Fems
DinaFem
Female Seeds
TGA/Subcool
Mosca
Sure winners in any of the above
Fems
DinaFem
Female Seeds
growhi
Member
they are very few real breeders imo !
lots of seed makers !! ........................ but any mug could do that lets be honest !
breeders seeds , grow out a few packs ,pick a few nice plants and make seeds ! meh !
the best of the seed makers is eskobar and san nie .............. least they work there lines and do selection and sell cheap ,
but even those are fundermentaly useing nameed genetics from other breeders !
the thread should be real breeders !........................... who is a real breeder , who is just a seed maker ?
lots of seed makers !! ........................ but any mug could do that lets be honest !
breeders seeds , grow out a few packs ,pick a few nice plants and make seeds ! meh !
the best of the seed makers is eskobar and san nie .............. least they work there lines and do selection and sell cheap ,
but even those are fundermentaly useing nameed genetics from other breeders !
the thread should be real breeders !........................... who is a real breeder , who is just a seed maker ?
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joejusttyped
Can't say I've ever seen a shoreline hyb from karma, is that an older release? And what OG are you talking about? He's using the HA in his biker line, OG#17 for his 'Bear og', and he's used an SFV bx male that I dont think he has any more. I'm no expert on Karma, I have only smoked weed from his strains (Jack, Mirre and Kryptonite) but they were all great and I have never been confused genetically speaking about any thing I see him coming out with..... That is with the exceptin of the big sur x biker kush where he said the bsh isnt pure and is crossed with somethig else.
And by what standards should this be measured ? ^^ I mean, when is something True-ly quality controlled or could just as well be Hype-shit?
I think some helpfull criteria for beeing a breeder would be to take into consideration the number of succesive reproduction seasons under his belt > combined to the number of plants beeing used to select from > combined to the harshness of conditions his plants are to thrive under.
Anything else would just be "breeders ethics, prolly combined to a certain moral code and from there on it will be real hard to distinguish between breeder & seed maker.
What am I? pfff. Fuck the hype, > Seed maker ofcourse... Doing what, pfff. Gods work for Christ sake, whatever.
FLMAO
(Tho I like to think of myself as a somewhat eccentric "survival of the fittest/ Genetics pooled together by respected people" type of breeder ^^ ha! lol)
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izzywozzywizzy
Dutch Passion EURPORIA : 9/10 reg heavy yeilds .nice flav my phino was ready in 6 week,Same company bleuberry 9/10 nice yeilds ,tatse and color 10/10 .mns mango phinos taste and smell 6/10 yeilds 9/10 effects10/10 .nevil super kush and gush watch this space.mns nevils haze taste 9/10 yeild10/10 effects 20/10 .peace
Or does one need to advertise his shit first, in order to be called a breeder?
Great call, but I think I'll pass, lolz
(ma nick wouldn't take such thing too lightly ^^)
@ Izzy&whatnot. If you realy mean to hyper this Nevil's stuff this high... then I am sorry to say that on several occasions (I'm a bad learner) it made me puke my guts out & to never want to have to smoke this stuff again... like ever.
Tho TBH, sure it was a large yielder but what does that help me if it only makes me puke all over the place? lolz
Great call, but I think I'll pass, lolz
(ma nick wouldn't take such thing too lightly ^^)
@ Izzy&whatnot. If you realy mean to hyper this Nevil's stuff this high... then I am sorry to say that on several occasions (I'm a bad learner) it made me puke my guts out & to never want to have to smoke this stuff again... like ever.
Tho TBH, sure it was a large yielder but what does that help me if it only makes me puke all over the place? lolz
growhi
Member
And by what standards should this be measured ? ^^ I mean, when is something True-ly quality controlled or could just as well be Hype-shit?
I think some helpfull criteria for beeing a breeder would be to take into consideration the number of succesive reproduction seasons under his belt > combined to the number of plants beeing used to select from > combined to the harshness of conditions his plants are to thrive under.
Anything else would just be "breeders ethics, prolly combined to a certain moral code and from there on it will be real hard to distinguish between breeder & seed maker.
What am I? pfff. Fuck the hype, > Seed maker ofcourse... Doing what, pfff. Gods work for Christ sake, whatever.
FLMAO
(Tho I like to think of myself as a somewhat eccentric "survival of the fittest/ Genetics pooled together by respected people" type of breeder ^^ ha! lol)
i think fundamentally its about time served , and commitment to the cause , and actually creating something new and stable !
banging out cross after cross with no real testing or no real work to the line ..................... to me thats a seed maker
s1in other peoples wrk ........... seed maker !
blatantly profiteering from other peoples hard work ......... seed maker!
???????????? anyone else think of seed maker traits ?
Follow the money, not the heart maybe for a SM trait Growhi?
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izzywozzywizzy
Was i promoting dutch padh as well .the op asked a q i amswerd it .ove spewed mamy a time its what we call a whitey smd it doesnt jzske nevils gear to Do it ,overdose on to much high thc andOr does one need to advertise his shit first, in order to be called a breeder?
Great call, but I think I'll pass, lolz
(ma nick wouldn't take such thing too lightly ^^)
@ Izzy&whatnot. If you realy mean to hyper this Nevil's stuff this high... then I am sorry to say that on several occasions (I'm a bad learner) it made me puke my guts out & to never want to have to smoke this stuff again... like ever.
Tho TBH, sure it was a large yielder but what does that help me if it only makes me puke all over the place? lolz
And booze id usually thr culprit Not nevil.
I would say it just depends on which strain they have and thats it lol.. Rating them is just funny.. sorry ..
So the breeder who creates an unstable clone is a breeder, but the guy who tries to make seeds available of that or produces crosses of other quality strains is "just" a seed maker? Why is one better than the other and why? They are both providing different services. To me the people producing good crosses for reasonable prices are doing just as big of a service to the community as those breeding stable lines. I like the unstable stuff just as much because you never know what you'll find. Also unlike clones I can order seeds and receive them from the other side of the planet.
stealnbeats
Member
Cool topic. I read for fun.
According to this anyone who goes through the processes mentioned is breeding.
It does not justify quality
Paste:
breeding [′brēd·iŋ]
(agriculture)
The application of genetic principles to the improvement of farm animals and of cultivated plants.
(genetics)
Controlled mating and selection, or hybridization of plants and animals in order to modify the species with respect to one or more phenotypic traits.
(nucleonics)
The production of nuclear fuel, by absorption of neutrons in a nuclear reactor, at a rate exceeding that at which fuel is being consumed.
Thankyouverymuchicmag
According to this anyone who goes through the processes mentioned is breeding.
It does not justify quality
Paste:
breeding [′brēd·iŋ]
(agriculture)
The application of genetic principles to the improvement of farm animals and of cultivated plants.
(genetics)
Controlled mating and selection, or hybridization of plants and animals in order to modify the species with respect to one or more phenotypic traits.
(nucleonics)
The production of nuclear fuel, by absorption of neutrons in a nuclear reactor, at a rate exceeding that at which fuel is being consumed.
Thankyouverymuchicmag
from the larger more commercial seed producers i rate subcool and serious seeds up there. they have a standard you can rely on.
a breeder,
*someone who selects and tests his own creations until he/she acheives a gem
*someone with an interest and knowledge in breeding.
*someone who works on other peoples creations/ landraces/other stock, to produce something new
a pollen tosser someone who gets two clone onlys reverses one and makes fem seeds
*someone who sells seeds having never tested them or giving them to testers.
*someone who only makes fems.
*someone who sells other peoples work as an s1 etc
*someone who blames hermies/poor growth/ mutations etc on a growers ''enviroment''
or lack of skills, rather than their own unstable genetics.
*someone who selects and tests his own creations until he/she acheives a gem
*someone with an interest and knowledge in breeding.
*someone who works on other peoples creations/ landraces/other stock, to produce something new
a pollen tosser someone who gets two clone onlys reverses one and makes fem seeds
*someone who sells seeds having never tested them or giving them to testers.
*someone who only makes fems.
*someone who sells other peoples work as an s1 etc
*someone who blames hermies/poor growth/ mutations etc on a growers ''enviroment''
or lack of skills, rather than their own unstable genetics.
Yo, so back on topic, Serious seeds does get my highest qualification thus far for if to grow for commercial purposes, but if it were to be grown for my own private interest I must say that his selection has become rather boring meanwhile.
Simon has been running his bussiness already since a long time and I can find myself pretty well in most of the aspects of his breeding strategy.
KC brains comes to me on a good second place, but that's mostly due to the fact that he ones sold me femmed seeds wich all prooved to be regulars.
That act completely pissed me off, as I had to grow his batches up to 5 times in a row, making sure that there were no any stressing factors involved to proof him wrong wich by my standards I eventually did but wich he kept denying.
He's got THE shit though, don't take me wrong, but after 5 attempts & at my growing level I will figure at some point who's right and who's wrong wha?
Simon has been running his bussiness already since a long time and I can find myself pretty well in most of the aspects of his breeding strategy.
KC brains comes to me on a good second place, but that's mostly due to the fact that he ones sold me femmed seeds wich all prooved to be regulars.
That act completely pissed me off, as I had to grow his batches up to 5 times in a row, making sure that there were no any stressing factors involved to proof him wrong wich by my standards I eventually did but wich he kept denying.
He's got THE shit though, don't take me wrong, but after 5 attempts & at my growing level I will figure at some point who's right and who's wrong wha?
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guest4092
I think the title of the thread should be worded differently. It seems he wants to rate which 'Seed Vendor' produces the best results.
I know there is a total difference between a 'Breeder' and a 'Seed Vendor', but i couldn't be bothered elaborating myself.
The fact that some people get all egotistical about whether they're favourite vendor is a 'True Breeder' or not is quite funny.
On a side note, i have watched some of Greenhouse Seeds videos, omg??? What are they thinking?
I guess it's nice to see them grow one of their plants, but Arjan sounds like Borat with his sidekick Franco the camera guy?
Sincerety and Humility at it's finest. Chinqui.
I know there is a total difference between a 'Breeder' and a 'Seed Vendor', but i couldn't be bothered elaborating myself.
The fact that some people get all egotistical about whether they're favourite vendor is a 'True Breeder' or not is quite funny.
On a side note, i have watched some of Greenhouse Seeds videos, omg??? What are they thinking?
I guess it's nice to see them grow one of their plants, but Arjan sounds like Borat with his sidekick Franco the camera guy?
Sincerety and Humility at it's finest. Chinqui.
