ummmmmmm none of it should be repealed.
ummmmmmm none of it should be repealed.
I found this page particularly enlightening in regards to the 14th amendment, and why clarification is needed-
http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
My replies will be in red ... /yawn.
Hey Fonzie, what are you doing water-skiing?
Maybe you should specify which part lmao.
Personally I can understand amnesty to children of illegals born in US hospitals, if we qualify it with an effective date. (That way we don't encourage more illegal immigration to exploit the amnesty) However, beyond that, I can see why some would want to redefine the law so that children born to illegals do not gain citizenship. Take away some of their motivation.
Edit: Oh and having those children take citizenship courses like everyone else who immigrates/naturalizes would be nice too.
Rand Paul is no libertarian. He is pure pro-life and strongly believes life begins at conception. His dad Ron atleast wants it left up to the states.
Real libertarians are no prolifers
Interesting point. The author of Freakanomics argues that it was the passage of Roe vs Wade that led to the sudden drop in the crime rate in the 1990's when some people were predicting blood was about to run in the streets because of the crime wave. And then it suddenly dropped off. The aborted children from 1973 on would have just been hitting their 20's. Peak criminal age.
The argument centers around that women who are forced to have children they do not want end up raising them in severely dysfunctional homes and they later are much more likely to turn to crime. They are raised as a burden in a home that they were unwanted in the first place. It is quite a compelling argument and he supports it with compelling evidence.
I'm personally ok with abortion. It's the woman's choice IMO, but at the same time I reckon we should call it what it is. You are killing something when you have an abortion and it's not a horse, it's a human. These are the utilitarian ethical choices that humans and other animals make on a daily basis.
Nobody yawn's with such excruciating detail, (with most of it after the fact.) You were on the fucking edge of yer stump the whole time.
I remember you now. You're the guy that does the irritating manual format, calls others out for mirrored condescension and posts comments in your sig line. All over, "All my problems (and more I haven't thought of) are due to evil progressives and I'll get my next fix at 5 o'clock. Then I'll find any moderate or left of center peep and tell them what they think, with a nice dose of condescension."
I think yer Glen Beck progressive conspiracy is just about as far as you can climb out on the limb and not fall off. The more you reveal, the closer you get to no limb and the twig breaks.
That's why you piece meal your feeds and they come back to paint a picture before the hour is up. Figuratively speaking of course as yours take days.
I'll just stick to Rand Paul, thank you. You can psycho-politicize somebody else.
Oh I dont deny it was enjoyable. The thing is .. it was to easy. Just like before when you started explaining history and taxes to me. Oh Im sure you havent forgot and niether have I... I miss those quotes.
I gave you examples of descrimination that goes on, on a daily basis. This is directly related to the accusations you have made against Rand Paul. You have called the man a bigot and racist. You have shown in doing so that it is you that is the racist and bigot imo. Its only racist and/or bigoted opinions that would lead one to such a conclusion in my opinion.
One day you may understand the machine that you empower but for now Ill just use you as my progressive liberal compass on issues. I think your a very partisan person that cannot understand that some people actually just look at the issues objectively.
As I said in my post I respect your opinion and welcome it. Only thing I would ask is that you be more direct and less twisting.
Maria_Vanessa, thank you for that. I'm always open to correction, as long as one commits to correcting me rather than attacking me personally. I only found that link a few hours ago and didn't spend much time looking into the website itself. However, I feel much of what was said in the link had merit. Particularly the part about the 14th amendment's intent in preventing states from denying citizenship to freed slaves who were born in America.
I'm off to read more about the Wong Kim Ark case, I'll bounce back by if I have anything interesting to say on the matter.
Intelligent retort...I read and watch alot of things. Oh noes .. let me give you a hint here. Its not me thats having a problem coming up with origninal thoughts and backing my positions. Its not me bringing 'party lines' and 'talking points' into this thread only my actual opinion and understanding. I believe I told you this before but when your positions are your own they are much easier to defend.
Glenn Beck shames people like Disco.
LOL... DB 'how can i win'
'oh i know ill insert something and try again'
Who said anything about justification except you? you crack me up man
Glen Beck? I can see him all bug-eyed and hyperventilating, telling the audience anything that will confuse as many as possibletexicannibus said:Do I want the right to commit murder? Thats stupid its illegalized at state, local, and federal levels does that stop it from happening?
A lie told often enough becomes the truth.
Vladimir Lenin
The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
Vladimir Lenin
Fascism is capitalism in decay.
Vladimir Lenin
He tells you to "hate" truthers. Why would someone tell you to "hate" somebody else for asking reasonable questions? Hate Hoosier. Do you understand the implications of using that rhetoric on the the masses such as yourself? Do you understand the psychology of mass hate? He wants his viewers to hate. Excuse me while I remove my head from my conspiracy ass. It's stuck like mo fo."The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Vladimir Ilyich Lenin