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Raist - You are the man bro. I completley understand whats going on there...
Let me ask though, since I DO like to do things right. If I wanted to "case" them (not sure if that is the right term) is the only difference that I would have to carefully break them up into a pan (I'm thinking a rectangle, deep dish) on top of 3/4 - 1 inch of the vermiculite mix, and then cover it with more mix? Put it in my tank? Am I way off here?
And as far as light, they do need some correct?
I may as well yield as much as possible.
Also, when innoculating the cooled, steamed jars with the spores, how much are you squirting at a time into each hole? 5ml 10ml? And how many ML do they give you. I'm taking the spores are suspended in a solution, that is the reason for the swirl...
Sorry for so many questions bro, you've been MAD helpful so far and I could probably pull it off as is, but I would like to go the "high yield" route.
Kharma is maxed out. But tanks a mill. Again sorry for so many ??'s
Let me ask though, since I DO like to do things right. If I wanted to "case" them (not sure if that is the right term) is the only difference that I would have to carefully break them up into a pan (I'm thinking a rectangle, deep dish) on top of 3/4 - 1 inch of the vermiculite mix, and then cover it with more mix? Put it in my tank? Am I way off here?
And as far as light, they do need some correct?
I may as well yield as much as possible.
Also, when innoculating the cooled, steamed jars with the spores, how much are you squirting at a time into each hole? 5ml 10ml? And how many ML do they give you. I'm taking the spores are suspended in a solution, that is the reason for the swirl...
Sorry for so many questions bro, you've been MAD helpful so far and I could probably pull it off as is, but I would like to go the "high yield" route.
Kharma is maxed out. But tanks a mill. Again sorry for so many ??'s
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YwouldntI
thats a kick ass tutorial rais 1-2-3-fasho,but i was wonderin the same thing how many ml,or whatever per jar?
thanks for the link too,im goin to check it out now.
peace-Y-
thanks for the link too,im goin to check it out now.
peace-Y-
and mucho rep to Raistlin. That is a mighty fine tutorial Bro
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Raistlin Majere
morning guys 
ARTofMAKINGfire ~ yep thats how you case them bro
half inch on the bottom of the tub 3/4 to a full inch on top of the crumbled cakes
the cakes can and should be given a 24 hour soak no matter what you do
as for light, i set my fruiting chamber in my bathroom
what ever light comes through the window during the day is just fine
if in a closet a small cfl on half of the day or so will be fine, no need for a timer
10ml per syringe, and 1ml per cake is all that is needed
try and get it close as you can if doing the full 10 jars, again if only doing 8 you have a little more room for error
of course a bit more in each will never hurt them
spores are suspended in water, they settle and or clump up, thats why we mix them up real good
thats also why its so easy to make your own HERE are a couple ways to make them
pick the one that seems easiest for you and give it a try
i did not look to see if PF TEK way is in there but thats the one i would recomend, again i have never done this i alwyas just order new ones
i really should pinch my pennies though and give it a try
and might as well go the high yeild route, i mean we are taking the time to do it so let get the most for your time and money
YwouldntI ~ glad your interested in this too bro :friends:
vintner ~ you gonna give it a shot to vin ? have fun if you do my friend
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tubs can be put in them tinfoil baking pans like the one i have pictured earlier
i just bent the sides in a bit so it would fit into a 10gal fish tank (wallmart $10)
a plexiglass lid can be made/bought to fit the top, and you can stack them up
2-5 high easy
the lids must be removed and aired out 2-3 times a day though
however i would seriously recomend building a fruiting chamber like the one i posted a link of to Y
then you plug in the air pump and just leave it do its thing (maybe mist the top of the casing once a day)
i still use 3inches of perlite on the bottom of mine and need to air it out everyday, along with a light water misting
same as you would do in a fishtank
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hope this helps brothers, please if anything does not add up for you or you have another Q, ask away :friends:
ARTofMAKINGfire ~ yep thats how you case them bro
half inch on the bottom of the tub 3/4 to a full inch on top of the crumbled cakes
the cakes can and should be given a 24 hour soak no matter what you do
as for light, i set my fruiting chamber in my bathroom
what ever light comes through the window during the day is just fine
if in a closet a small cfl on half of the day or so will be fine, no need for a timer
10ml per syringe, and 1ml per cake is all that is needed
try and get it close as you can if doing the full 10 jars, again if only doing 8 you have a little more room for error
of course a bit more in each will never hurt them
spores are suspended in water, they settle and or clump up, thats why we mix them up real good
thats also why its so easy to make your own HERE are a couple ways to make them
pick the one that seems easiest for you and give it a try
i did not look to see if PF TEK way is in there but thats the one i would recomend, again i have never done this i alwyas just order new ones
i really should pinch my pennies though and give it a try
and might as well go the high yeild route, i mean we are taking the time to do it so let get the most for your time and money
YwouldntI ~ glad your interested in this too bro :friends:
vintner ~ you gonna give it a shot to vin ? have fun if you do my friend
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tubs can be put in them tinfoil baking pans like the one i have pictured earlier
i just bent the sides in a bit so it would fit into a 10gal fish tank (wallmart $10)
a plexiglass lid can be made/bought to fit the top, and you can stack them up
2-5 high easy
the lids must be removed and aired out 2-3 times a day though
however i would seriously recomend building a fruiting chamber like the one i posted a link of to Y
then you plug in the air pump and just leave it do its thing (maybe mist the top of the casing once a day)
i still use 3inches of perlite on the bottom of mine and need to air it out everyday, along with a light water misting
same as you would do in a fishtank
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hope this helps brothers, please if anything does not add up for you or you have another Q, ask away :friends:
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Thanks friend, but no. I've mentioned before, I'm not big on halucinogenics, and I've already got enough on my plate. What I meant was that I need to get started on that wine tutorial I told you about. Soon. Have a great day Bro.
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Raistlin Majere
thats right i remember now, sorry for the confusion LOL
So Raist, even though we put four holes into the lids of each jar, we are only putting 1ML in each mason jar total? Or 1 ML in each HOLE total of 4ML per jar.
Or is it 1ML TOTAL per jar and one syringe does 10 jars?
Just wondering how many ML total per mason, and I think you're saying it is ONE. The holes must be there for the steaming part more than innocluting...
Now I would take this dish that I cased and place it in my fish tank. On top of pearlite? I want to keep as close to 100% RH correct? Under any type of weak light for around half the day. (I take it the mushies don't use the light to regulate their growth stages but rather needs SOME energy from the light to grow, thus intesity and duration of the light doesnt matter, just that it is present in some way.
I think I got this. You the man.
Or is it 1ML TOTAL per jar and one syringe does 10 jars?
Just wondering how many ML total per mason, and I think you're saying it is ONE. The holes must be there for the steaming part more than innocluting...
Now I would take this dish that I cased and place it in my fish tank. On top of pearlite? I want to keep as close to 100% RH correct? Under any type of weak light for around half the day. (I take it the mushies don't use the light to regulate their growth stages but rather needs SOME energy from the light to grow, thus intesity and duration of the light doesnt matter, just that it is present in some way.
I think I got this. You the man.
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cellardweller
Rais, thats EXACTLY what we did.no shit. 1ml. per hole.
I take my tub out of the closet twice a day for a few minutes with the top off for light and air exchange as well.
Sweet post bro!
I take my tub out of the closet twice a day for a few minutes with the top off for light and air exchange as well.
Sweet post bro!
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Raistlin Majere
yes its 1ml per jar
kinda tricky to only get that small amount in LOL
the holes get covered back up with the tape right after innocluting, the steam gets in through the loosened cap
yes as close to 100% RH as you can, i think mine runs around 80% but as you can see it works just fine
set the tub right on the perlite (3-4 inches perlite)
if doing cakes set them on the lids or something similar
you got it right on the light
another tip* add a few capfulls of peroxide in the water with your perlite
helps LOTS to control bacteria
kinda tricky to only get that small amount in LOL
the holes get covered back up with the tape right after innocluting, the steam gets in through the loosened cap
yes as close to 100% RH as you can, i think mine runs around 80% but as you can see it works just fine
set the tub right on the perlite (3-4 inches perlite)
if doing cakes set them on the lids or something similar
you got it right on the light
another tip* add a few capfulls of peroxide in the water with your perlite
helps LOTS to control bacteria
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cellardweller
oops my bad. just got off the phone with my bud..was 1cc per hole..
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Raistlin Majere
well whatever the unit size is, cc or ml
one unit will do i jar so 10 units=10 jars
C how many cakes did you guys do with a syringe ?
:EDIT: i see you got your first light greenie as well congrats
one unit will do i jar so 10 units=10 jars
C how many cakes did you guys do with a syringe ?
:EDIT: i see you got your first light greenie as well congrats
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shrooms dont use light to grow persay.. light and fresh air will trigger pinning, then light after that just tells the mushies which way to grow. im pretty sure if you put the light on the side.. they mush with grow twards the light.. and if you leave it above they will grow upwards.. thats my understanding anyways. good luck.
you guys using syringes should look into taking a few extra steps and makinga Liquid Culture.. it only uses a few ML from the original syringe, its basically karo syrup or honey in water, sterilized and shot up just like you would the jars with about, 2-3ml of the syringe.. a week or 2, and you have enough liquid to do 100's of jars. then you draw up the liquid into syringe and innoculate the jars, and you dont have to worry about putting 1ml in the holes.. you can put 1 in each hole and not worry. plus the Liquid Culture, will speed up the colonization times of the jars. liquid culture, basically skips the germination part that takes place in the jars and makes them, take an extra week.
just a little tidbit of info i can offer on the subject.
also raist is right about the hydrogen peroxide in the perlite.
also you can fill a spray bottle with a cap of peroxide, and water.. and spray the insides of your humidome to keep the humidity up.
Do NOT spray the cake directly though. peroxide is bad for the mushies as well.
wont kill them completly but will stunt them a bit.
the other thing i do is set them on squares of foil on top of the perlite that way i can use the tops and jars to start another batch. that way your not sitting on jars if you want to reuse them.
you guys using syringes should look into taking a few extra steps and makinga Liquid Culture.. it only uses a few ML from the original syringe, its basically karo syrup or honey in water, sterilized and shot up just like you would the jars with about, 2-3ml of the syringe.. a week or 2, and you have enough liquid to do 100's of jars. then you draw up the liquid into syringe and innoculate the jars, and you dont have to worry about putting 1ml in the holes.. you can put 1 in each hole and not worry. plus the Liquid Culture, will speed up the colonization times of the jars. liquid culture, basically skips the germination part that takes place in the jars and makes them, take an extra week.
just a little tidbit of info i can offer on the subject.
also raist is right about the hydrogen peroxide in the perlite.
also you can fill a spray bottle with a cap of peroxide, and water.. and spray the insides of your humidome to keep the humidity up.
Do NOT spray the cake directly though. peroxide is bad for the mushies as well.
wont kill them completly but will stunt them a bit.
the other thing i do is set them on squares of foil on top of the perlite that way i can use the tops and jars to start another batch. that way your not sitting on jars if you want to reuse them.
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that looks like a great idea raist... what i would do would be to take the syringe you make from the jar and shoot it back into the karo water you used and sterilized.. then keep that jar as your liquid culture.. but then again it says you can use the colonized jar to to that.... seems like a pain everytime you wanna fill the syringe though.. with the lc, u just suck and innoculate.
good luck with whatever you decide.
good luck with whatever you decide.
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cellardweller
Raistlin Majere said:well whatever the unit size is, cc or ml
one unit will do i jar so 10 units=10 jars
C how many cakes did you guys do with a syringe ?
:EDIT: i see you got your first light greenie as well congrats
Thanks bro!
We had 2 syringes and did 12 jars and had about 3-4 ml left over which went into 2 more jars I had for curing weed.
Those never lived at all. Out of those 12 jars, the 2 that had the spots reside in the cellar, and the other 10 are over there. We've already picked like 7 or 8.
Ima go check out that link now.
Peace!
edit: I like a poor man's way of thinking.
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mjcuresall
Active member
Vintner's right.
Raistlin, accessndx, Endo, anyone else I may have omitted - thank you very mucho for the links and info! You guys are the shiznit!
Raistlin, accessndx, Endo, anyone else I may have omitted - thank you very mucho for the links and info! You guys are the shiznit!
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Raistlin Majere
Endo ~ gonna spend a day or three reading up on the TEK before i give it a go, i always like to be INFORMED 
and i love the idea of making one syringe into 100
vintner ~ 7 years shooting herion into my arms, you think i would know these things
cellardweller ~I like a poor man's way of thinking as well
12 jars huh !! well i geuss even less solution is needed than thought
mjcuresall ~ :friends: no problem brother, just passing along the info that was once given to me
paying it forward
and i love the idea of making one syringe into 100
vintner ~ 7 years shooting herion into my arms, you think i would know these things
cellardweller ~I like a poor man's way of thinking as well
12 jars huh !! well i geuss even less solution is needed than thought
mjcuresall ~ :friends: no problem brother, just passing along the info that was once given to me
paying it forward
