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question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

Dr. Purpur

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Daaang, hows that smoke?

It tastes unlike anything Ive ever smoked. It has almost a winter green aroma, it smells very nice. Im taking a jar of bud to a guy at work today.
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bushweed

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Hmmm, that would be 50% Haze, 37.5 % Skunk, 12.5% NL.

Skunkman's Original Haze/Skunk x Nevil's Haze would =66.666% Haze. So you could call it Satan's Haze.

Oh the irony of it:laughing:
 

jack Haze

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I dont mean to be a dick, but your plants a runt because its in horrible shape. Sams Haze x Skunk are fast veggers, and only have problems when poorly cared for. Ive run through multiple clones, and Ive seen the differences in health and vigor when poorly cared for.

I flowered as soon as roots formed on 4'' clones. About 3-4 weeks into it they were about 2'+. One of the fastest growing and strtching beasts I've seen.

Unfortunately I had to yank them and never finished. If there was one particular strain I could try...I really wanted to try this OHxSkunk1...
 

Dr. Purpur

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SSH is [Haze 'C' x NL5] x [Haze 'C' x Skunk #1], right? Do y'all think it'd be a good idea to cross an SSH momma to the Sam's Original Haze x Skunk #1 dad (O'Hunk) I saved?

That'd be:
([Haze 'C' x NL5] x [Haze 'C' x Skunk #1]) x (Original Haze x Skunk #1)

That's like, SSH³! Not only would it increase the haze genes to 66.6% (I think...), it'd also add a much needed infusion of Haze variety since the Haze used by Sam in his cross is undoubtedly different than the 'A' and 'C' used by Shanti. All the while, that 66.6% haze is kept primarily on the male side, meaning (if I understand correctly) that the structure would more often follow the mom and therefore lead to more 'manageable' plants...

Then again, I'm just a closet hack - Any problems you folks see with my logic?

Neville will hate You if You do! LOL! Just kidding, go for it.
 

Dr. Purpur

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I still have one

I still have one

It has a wild flavor, but not a pschodelic high. Ive kept the pheno for over a year, but Im budding out the Mom and letting it go. I did make seed crosses with it tho. Real nice flavor,
 

jeffie

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SSH is [Haze 'C' x NL5] x [Haze 'C' x Skunk #1], right? Do y'all think it'd be a good idea to cross an SSH momma to the Sam's Original Haze x Skunk #1 dad (O'Hunk) I saved?

That'd be:
([Haze 'C' x NL5] x [Haze 'C' x Skunk #1]) x (Original Haze x Skunk #1)

That's like, SSH³! Not only would it increase the haze genes to 66.6% (I think...), it'd also add a much needed infusion of Haze variety since the Haze used by Sam in his cross is undoubtedly different than the 'A' and 'C' used by Shanti. All the while, that 66.6% haze is kept primarily on the male side, meaning (if I understand correctly) that the structure would more often follow the mom and therefore lead to more 'manageable' plants...

Then again, I'm just a closet hack - Any problems you folks see with my logic?

All depends on which traits are dominant which recessive, if it's a long inbred and stabilized line or not and so on so my take It would be a total mess ;) ie gamble
 

bigherb

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id like to thank everyone for all their contributions in this thread its great to see its still alive n kickin .

DR Purpur

sup brother

great pics all of them

im curious to kno if the aroma transitions to the taste,Id say this isnt a common haze trait interesting ,too bad the purple didnt show in the finished product


Bushy

great question

I'd like to know if the Haze Sam sold Nevil in '85 have any Thai in it? Or was it from earlier stock ('69), hence primarily Colombian&Mexican
?

im curious to kno if you recall wat stock was given to nevil aswell,as he mentions dates from 66 -70 which is a first as far as i kno


Beta

i think thats a great idea at the moment i dont recall,if there are many/any reported crosses using SAMS HZhybrids and MNS HZhybrids,i look forward to a report or progress

as for the 2 hazes not being related ITS NOT CONFIRMED,id think soo myself but only SAMS would really know. Maybe he can speak on it


come to think of it a very kind n knowledgeable fella Scorpion has done more than one cross i believe ,he's reported plans to possible pollinate a himilayan X Ohaze from seedsman 98 stock with a NH male ,if i recall correct n this thread below was very impressive and described the leather trait which im quite familiar with

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/16-bud-shots/604-originalhazeskunk-f2.html


Sams

thanks for sharing that pic its great to see in my thread ,i was hopin too see wat R.L might hav wrote to you


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thumbnailgreen

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to clear something up here i belive the seeds sam gave neville in the 80's were from plants grown in 69, 70 so the seeds were from that time sam gave them to him in the 80's which would be right
 

bigherb

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thumbnailgreen


i apprecaite your interest in the haze history


As you can see much of the my passion for the history started in this thread an it just soo happen i became part of the MNS family awhile before nevil joined.Much of the breaking history revealed for the first time was answers to my questions,its a great read check questions for nevil N Grail: the ultimate haze hybrid threads at Mns .

the seeds nevil recieved from Sams was in 85 if i recall .But nevil has stated below

Originally Posted by Nevil
Well Bigherb, I wouldn't swear on a kilo of Haze Hash, that he told me that he grew them himself.
I seem to remember one batch had a number of years mixed together something like '66,'67,'68. A prominent ancestor was a thing called "Burning Bush". If Sam didn't grow burning bush then the person that did will be able to tell us more.
Everything useful was from before 1970. The one plant that came up from '70 batch, Omega, was at best 25% haze and didn't make the grade.
N.

This is the first ive ever heard those dates mentioned ,according to Sams post its contradicting .

Soo really the only one that can clear things up is Sams


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Dr. Purpur

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Sam?

Sam?

You want to weigh in on this? We all have come to the same conclusion. Would You mind sharing this information with us?
Im not far from Santa Cruz, and was smoking weed since the summer of 69. I smoked it. The Haze.
 

Hazy Lady

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Why no barcodes Sam?

Why no barcodes Sam?

Tut Tut Sam, all this fuss over what year, which batch, why didn't you just paint a tiny date on each and every seed? and still today, have you bothered to develop a 2mm barcode stamper for future seeds?.
Come on man, you owe us! :bigeye:

@ Herb, superb thread, a proper one off buddy, thanks to you & Sam and all the posters who keep it fresh still :wave:
 

bigherb

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Dr Purpur

watch ya mouth brother thats my lady LOL


hazy

Glad your back and ready for action Lol

How about some black haze


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