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Putin Told Me He Didn't Do It
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The Helsinki meltdown shows that the MSM and the Swamp STILL don’t get Trump
Nate Madden · July 16, 2018
Trump has concluded his summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and we’re now well into the full-on media and politician meltdown we all expected to follow.
Once again, President Trump didn’t followed the script tacitly imposed on him by the Swamp’s foreign policy elites and their legacy media cheering section when he appeared with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a joint press conference in Helsinki.
Cue the meltdown:
Everyone is numb and in shock. We can’t believe what we just witnessed, but for me it’s this simple: The President of the United States openly colluded with Putin to undermine our democracy.
— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) July 16, 2018
GOP Sen. Ben Sasse calls Trump performance "bizarre and flat-out wrong." Blasts Trump for blaming bad U.S.-Russia relationship on U.S.: "When the President plays these moral equivalence games, he gives Putin a propaganda win he desperately needs.”
— Alex Bolton (@alexanderbolton) July 16, 2018
Anderson Cooper after presser: "You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president…"
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 16, 2018
Missed opportunity by President Trump to firmly hold Russia accountable for 2016 meddling and deliver a strong warning regarding future elections.
This answer by President Trump will be seen by Russia as a sign of weakness and create far more problems than it solves. (1/3)
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) July 16, 2018
And then we have some truly unhinged treason allegations:
Art. III requires two witnesses to convict someone of the crime of treason. Conveniently, the 2-hour Trump-Putin session in Helsinki, which Trump says fully turned around our bad relationship with Russia, was conducted with no witnesses but the principals and their translators.
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) July 16, 2018
Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) July 16, 2018
After @POTUS's shockingly dangerous, anti-American display of treason 2day…just imagine all that #Mueller has on him & the #Trump family. It's just a matter of time b4 this despicable traitor is impeached, indicted & removed from office. The Feds r closing in…#Helsinki #Putin
— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) July 16, 2018
Trea·son (pron.ˈtrēzən), n. the action of betraying someone or something.
That entire press conference was a profound act of betrayal of the United States. https://t.co/uFgLAc1O3b
— Norm Eisen (@NormEisen) July 16, 2018
And, of course, this news cycle wouldn’t be complete without blackmail conspiracy speculation from a high-ranking Democratic official.
Schumer: Millions of Americans will continue to wonder if the only possible explanation for this dangerous behavior is the possibility that President Putin holds damaging information over President Trump.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 16, 2018
Left-leaning commentariat and elected/appointed officials reaching to mainstream calls of treason over a press conference they didn’t approve of with a foreign leader they only started worrying about in earnest about 2 years ago would be a lot more disturbing if it weren’t all so pitifully predictable.
Let’s just begin with the acknowledgement that there was never going to be any outcome from this new chapter of U.S.-Russia relations without Trump’s political opposition accusing him of being a Putin puppet, as I explained elsewhere.
And, to be fair, it’s worth a decent eyeroll that Trump won’t acknowledge that the Russian government tried to meddle in the 2016 election. The rule of thumb when dealing with a conniving operator like Putin is to not believe a word he says, after all. Plus, it does nothing but give his opposition an endless supply of tedious political ammo.
But, at the same time, given the actual level of sophistication or lack thereof involved in the operation, it might be better to not give Putin the satisfaction, as Sean Davis explains.
I can't think of a bigger propaganda victory for a tinpot tyrant than having the leader of the world declare publicly that the tyrant single-handedly affected the biggest election on earth using little more than social media trolls and some bitcoin. https://t.co/gXU1cEDLYb
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) July 16, 2018
The rule of thumb in covering Trump, however, is not to get distracted by the tweets, the presser comments, and the off-the-cuff reactions. You have to stay focused on his actions and the actual policy results, or you’ll miss the important stuff, like the fact that Trump is still hawkish on Russia, despite the hullaballoo.
This is especially true when it comes to Trump’s foreign policy. When he’s breaking from decades of establishment consensus on diplomacy, the key is to wait for the results and then judge those. Monday-morning quarterback what was said at a joint press conference all you want, but it’s no indicator of what the United States’ approach to the Russian Federation will be under the Trump administration, nor whether that approach will bear fruit.
It’s truly confounding that so many in the news business have been tracking Donald Trump since he came down the escalator to announce his candidacy for president over three years ago and apparently still don’t get any of this.
Either that, or they understand the concept but still want to force POTUS into a cookie-cutter mold he’ll never fit, or they just want to drive up their click traffic, their social media numbers, and their cable news appearances by willfully ignoring it. My money’s on option #3.
Nate Madden · July 16, 2018
Trump has concluded his summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and we’re now well into the full-on media and politician meltdown we all expected to follow.
Once again, President Trump didn’t followed the script tacitly imposed on him by the Swamp’s foreign policy elites and their legacy media cheering section when he appeared with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a joint press conference in Helsinki.
Cue the meltdown:
Everyone is numb and in shock. We can’t believe what we just witnessed, but for me it’s this simple: The President of the United States openly colluded with Putin to undermine our democracy.
— Ryan Lizza (@RyanLizza) July 16, 2018
GOP Sen. Ben Sasse calls Trump performance "bizarre and flat-out wrong." Blasts Trump for blaming bad U.S.-Russia relationship on U.S.: "When the President plays these moral equivalence games, he gives Putin a propaganda win he desperately needs.”
— Alex Bolton (@alexanderbolton) July 16, 2018
Anderson Cooper after presser: "You have been watching perhaps one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president…"
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) July 16, 2018
Missed opportunity by President Trump to firmly hold Russia accountable for 2016 meddling and deliver a strong warning regarding future elections.
This answer by President Trump will be seen by Russia as a sign of weakness and create far more problems than it solves. (1/3)
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) July 16, 2018
And then we have some truly unhinged treason allegations:
Art. III requires two witnesses to convict someone of the crime of treason. Conveniently, the 2-hour Trump-Putin session in Helsinki, which Trump says fully turned around our bad relationship with Russia, was conducted with no witnesses but the principals and their translators.
— Laurence Tribe (@tribelaw) July 16, 2018
Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) July 16, 2018
After @POTUS's shockingly dangerous, anti-American display of treason 2day…just imagine all that #Mueller has on him & the #Trump family. It's just a matter of time b4 this despicable traitor is impeached, indicted & removed from office. The Feds r closing in…#Helsinki #Putin
— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) July 16, 2018
Trea·son (pron.ˈtrēzən), n. the action of betraying someone or something.
That entire press conference was a profound act of betrayal of the United States. https://t.co/uFgLAc1O3b
— Norm Eisen (@NormEisen) July 16, 2018
And, of course, this news cycle wouldn’t be complete without blackmail conspiracy speculation from a high-ranking Democratic official.
Schumer: Millions of Americans will continue to wonder if the only possible explanation for this dangerous behavior is the possibility that President Putin holds damaging information over President Trump.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) July 16, 2018
Left-leaning commentariat and elected/appointed officials reaching to mainstream calls of treason over a press conference they didn’t approve of with a foreign leader they only started worrying about in earnest about 2 years ago would be a lot more disturbing if it weren’t all so pitifully predictable.
Let’s just begin with the acknowledgement that there was never going to be any outcome from this new chapter of U.S.-Russia relations without Trump’s political opposition accusing him of being a Putin puppet, as I explained elsewhere.
And, to be fair, it’s worth a decent eyeroll that Trump won’t acknowledge that the Russian government tried to meddle in the 2016 election. The rule of thumb when dealing with a conniving operator like Putin is to not believe a word he says, after all. Plus, it does nothing but give his opposition an endless supply of tedious political ammo.
But, at the same time, given the actual level of sophistication or lack thereof involved in the operation, it might be better to not give Putin the satisfaction, as Sean Davis explains.
I can't think of a bigger propaganda victory for a tinpot tyrant than having the leader of the world declare publicly that the tyrant single-handedly affected the biggest election on earth using little more than social media trolls and some bitcoin. https://t.co/gXU1cEDLYb
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) July 16, 2018
The rule of thumb in covering Trump, however, is not to get distracted by the tweets, the presser comments, and the off-the-cuff reactions. You have to stay focused on his actions and the actual policy results, or you’ll miss the important stuff, like the fact that Trump is still hawkish on Russia, despite the hullaballoo.
This is especially true when it comes to Trump’s foreign policy. When he’s breaking from decades of establishment consensus on diplomacy, the key is to wait for the results and then judge those. Monday-morning quarterback what was said at a joint press conference all you want, but it’s no indicator of what the United States’ approach to the Russian Federation will be under the Trump administration, nor whether that approach will bear fruit.
It’s truly confounding that so many in the news business have been tracking Donald Trump since he came down the escalator to announce his candidacy for president over three years ago and apparently still don’t get any of this.
Either that, or they understand the concept but still want to force POTUS into a cookie-cutter mold he’ll never fit, or they just want to drive up their click traffic, their social media numbers, and their cable news appearances by willfully ignoring it. My money’s on option #3.
Gry;83327yhyb14 said:
Nice try !
So tell me Gry...guilty pleas for what exactly ? Anything related to Trump working for Russia ? Nope didn't so...
Flynn's situation is total BS. Papsmear? Page? Nothing connecting Trump to shit. No connection. They didn't have Trump's ear. Not even remotely close. Manafort...if he cheated on his taxes or whatever...so be it. There still is no connection between him, President Trump and Russia. Muller even said so.
What else you got ?
The way I see it is that its much better for world peace if those two big so-called world leaders continue their bro-mance...
Then there is much less of a chance of millions of people getting fried in some war.
Of course the US military don't like it because they are 'Gung-Ho' for combat....
The Donny 'T' opposition don't like it because it negates their 'reds in the bed' bollocks/fear mongering fake news milling accusations of collusion, which has been the meat and potatoes of the liberal media (CNN/BBC) ever since he got elected.
* Looks like Donny is in awe of Putin, maybe because he epitomizes what a strong leader is all about ?
Then there is much less of a chance of millions of people getting fried in some war.
Of course the US military don't like it because they are 'Gung-Ho' for combat....
The Donny 'T' opposition don't like it because it negates their 'reds in the bed' bollocks/fear mongering fake news milling accusations of collusion, which has been the meat and potatoes of the liberal media (CNN/BBC) ever since he got elected.
* Looks like Donny is in awe of Putin, maybe because he epitomizes what a strong leader is all about ?
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Putin Told Me He Didn't Do It
I'm really interested to hear what everyone has to say about this one.
This is the original post.
Please refrain from attempts to turn this into a shit show. Many have said their piece. Some have added to thoughts of others. We have allot of very well thought out answers.
Everyones opinion welcomed and wanted. Please continue.
OP
I'm really interested to hear what everyone has to say about this one.
This is the original post.
Please refrain from attempts to turn this into a shit show. Many have said their piece. Some have added to thoughts of others. We have allot of very well thought out answers.
Everyones opinion welcomed and wanted. Please continue.
OP
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Rubber Chicken
I seen this short video of the meeting and Putin has a look of bewilderment on his face, most of the time.... i hope they do try to have a Kumbaya, however weird it is.
I was watching some video about the Tsar Bomba compared to the Fat Man and Little boy.... it's not pleasant.
Tsar Bomba was over 2,000 times more powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzY-wW9-_uE
I was watching some video about the Tsar Bomba compared to the Fat Man and Little boy.... it's not pleasant.
Tsar Bomba was over 2,000 times more powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzY-wW9-_uE
CaptainDankness
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Well unless Trump worked with Putin to win presidency, then I agree with Putin, he didn't do it.
Jesus people, get over it. Prove Trump worked with Putin already! Sure Trump should sanction Russia into telling the left what they want to hear....
Jesus people, get over it. Prove Trump worked with Putin already! Sure Trump should sanction Russia into telling the left what they want to hear....
you think the investigations are going to stop because the trump base is tired of them?
obviously not, and they seem to show that Trump worked with Putin, his agents actually
you're really not going enjoy the rest of your summer
Nirrity
Active member
just watch some Jimmy Dore's shows if you want a good laugh along with some deep thoughts. like this maybe but he has more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYPmHJ3WeU
A idol like Trumo that idolizes the types Trump does, is a very dangerous and stupid man. I have no living idols myself. I like my dog better than these people.
Obviously the brainwashed see nothing wrong with their brainwashing or those they ALLOWED to brainwash them. There was EFFORT ln both Trump and Putin's actions. That might not be the most conclusive consipracy, but it's still effort. Effort in wrong doing is enough to warrant an investigation. All the while these brainwashed conservative militant nut jobs worried the american socialists would make a deal with Russia. Which they ARE NOW doing, the conservatives that is.
2020 will be very interesting. Russia will step up their game, China must thwart Trump and risk losing an Allie that Russia has became to them. All the while a Russian spy is captured with ties to the National Rifle Association.
Obviously the brainwashed see nothing wrong with their brainwashing or those they ALLOWED to brainwash them. There was EFFORT ln both Trump and Putin's actions. That might not be the most conclusive consipracy, but it's still effort. Effort in wrong doing is enough to warrant an investigation. All the while these brainwashed conservative militant nut jobs worried the american socialists would make a deal with Russia. Which they ARE NOW doing, the conservatives that is.
2020 will be very interesting. Russia will step up their game, China must thwart Trump and risk losing an Allie that Russia has became to them. All the while a Russian spy is captured with ties to the National Rifle Association.
I'm a lot more interested in what the Fat Lady's gonna say when she finally starts singing!
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naturalbornkilr
Who said somethin about oil bitch? you cookin?
Who cares if our president is a traitor? We expect our enemies to mess with us but Donald wants to make America a memory...
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