Purple Zamal x A5 Haze

[The Zientist]

Honestly if we would have had this conversation three days ago I would have said let’s do it, but I just dropped 6 Super Congo from the R&D so I’ll need to run those first. What a problem we have found ourselves in aye … having all the interesting genetics to run

Keep those vegging, clone and send them later! Let's go Zamal A5 train, chuchu!

Well... Still lies on the NLD African piff spectrum of combos, can't wait to see what those interactions bring.

 

[MrHamilton]

You can order R&D selections from Mandala to the stateside, I do it all the time. Just received a package a few weeks ago from them in fact….that Super Congo was one of them that were in there. Very excited to have snagged those!

Not like I actually needed any more seeds right now but I wanted some CBD#1 anyway and these look special. I got the super Congo also, now just to find the space and time.
Thanks for the heads up!

 

[OZZ_]

Not like I actually needed any more seeds right now but I wanted some CBD#1 anyway and these look special. I got the super Congo also, now just to find the space and time.
Thanks for the heads up!

 

[The Zientist]

D33 - 11/13

They were a bit thirsty after returning from Spannabis, although they proved to be extremely draught resistant and little damage was done, only bottom nodes and those will be cut prior to repot.

Their internodal elongation as slowed down dramatically over the last week, and most of their energy now is being allocated to flower production. That means repot time has come, over the next few days that'll take place.

I'll take the chance to dilute the nutrient richness of the media by blending a few liters of rice hulls and vermiculite, as it proved to be a bit to hot for them. That will add also a bit of silica that comes in handy, specially regarding recovery from hydric stress and other kinds.

Their inflorescences are stacking at a faster pace than I anticipated, given the tropical nature of the Zamal parent. Although after talking with dubi, he told me that would have been predicted by the quasi semi-autoflowering nature that some Zamals are known to have.
In retrospective, the mother plants have many stigmas on their nodes too, despite being in 20/4.

Tops of all 5 PZA5:
#2

#1

#4

#3

#5 (crinkle leaf)

I'll do an update after repotting them. I should take the macro lens too and do something more than auto mode pictures.

See you soon!
tZ

 

[OZZ_]

Excellent, nice sized early flowers for such a cross you may be looking at some monster colas on your hands later depending on how they continue to stack

Any idea on how many weeks they may go?

Seems the Killer A5 can regularly go 100 days ++

 

[The Zientist]

Excellent, nice sized early flowers for such a cross you may be looking at some monster colas on your hands later depending on how they continue to stack

Any idea on how many weeks they may go?

Seems the Killer A5 can regularly go 100 days ++

I was expecting them to fall down on that range, 14-16 weeks. Although now I have a feeling they might be finished earlier.

I haven't seen anyone running this cross yet, if I recall correctly.

There's a sharp acrid aroma when I open the closet too. The A5 S1 I ran recently had barely any flowers on them at this stage, and smelled basically of nothing until very late in flowering.

 

[OZZ_]

I was expecting them to fall down on that range, 14-16 weeks. Although now I have a feeling they might be finished earlier.

I haven't seen anyone running this cross yet, if I recall correctly.

There's a sharp acrid aroma when I open the closet too. The A5 S1 I ran recently had barely any flowers on them at this stage, and smelled basically of nothing until very late in flowering.

Wonderful, great signs of things to come!!

 

[bluesat]

I was expecting them to fall down on that range, 14-16 weeks. Although now I have a feeling they might be finished earlier.

I haven't seen anyone running this cross yet, if I recall correctly.

There's a sharp acrid aroma when I open the closet too. The A5 S1 I ran recently had barely any flowers on them at this stage, and smelled basically of nothing until very late in flowering.

Looking great! It’s fun seeing the different versions. Here’s mine. I just grew out one from seed and clone. I chopped at 13 weeks and 4 days. Not too much stretch. Simple to grow although I couldn’t keep a mother clone bc it flowered and hermed under 18/6. I’ll be growing out more of these and the bangi haze cross too. The last two pics show the purple zamal x a5 reversed on the right and ace pure Ethiopian on the left

 

[orangina]

I just grew out one from seed and clone.

Nice. I guess you are the first person here who finished this cross. Could you say anything about the effect?

 

[The Zientist]

Looking great! It’s fun seeing the different versions. Here’s mine. I just grew out one from seed and clone. I chopped at 13 weeks and 4 days. Not too much stretch. Simple to grow although I couldn’t keep a mother clone bc it flowered and hermed under 18/6. I’ll be growing out more of these and the bangi haze cross too. The last two pics show the purple zamal x a5 reversed on the right and ace pure Ethiopian on the left

Thanks mate! You really killed it with yours, they look happy and healthy, thank you for sharing them as well.

What kind of effects, aromas and flavors did you get from them? The one you got is halfway similar in structure to both my #3 and #4.

I was checking all five mothers yesterday and I noticed that the amount of preflowers is increasing, and they are now showing stigma on their tops yet, but no anthers. They are clearly vegging though, no other changes to their growth behaviour.
I'm keeping them in 0.9L pots, and I'm getting the feeling that they need their roots trimmed and slightly bigger pots.

 

[The Zientist]

D36 – 11/13 Repot to 7L

Delayed repot has been finally accomplished. Cleaned a couple of their bottom nodes to facilitate maintenance.
It should have happened around a week ago. Nothing too worrying, though some potential was left behind.

Two major architectures can be observed among all five. One has a wider habit, the side branches really spreads out of their nodes and the other is literally buds on a stick: no branching or whatsoever, as you can see.

I’ve been really cautious with them, trying to contain their height and it seems it has worked too well. Now that stretching is mostly done, it does see they could have been taller. Well, I suppose some trauma over my latest A5S1 and Thai Chi cycles, ended up with me truly restricting their root space this time, for longer than necessary. Perhaps they’ll stretch a bit more now that they have more space to spread their roots an develop a bigger root mass.
Always learning, every variety a new journey.

At this stage, I’m happy that I ended up with very manageable mostly-NLD plants within the limits of my indoor setup.

When they have their inflorescences more developed, I'll dedicate some time at taking individual pictures.

See you soon!
tZ

 

[dubi]

Really happy to see them already flowering in their final 7 liter pots. They look very happy and with that well-balanced organic feeling i like so much. It was also great to meet you this year at Spannabis again Take care

 

[dubi]

Great to have the chance to see yours @bluesat How were the terps and effects of the finished product ?

Yep, straight Zamal crosses can easily be sexually unstable with extreme photoperiod changes, and some individuals can show semi autoflowering traits. To avoid this (among many other reasons), that's why i'm mainly working and releasing genetics with Zamaldelica elite mother instead of straight pure Zamal crosses.

 

[The Zientist]

Really happy to see them already flowering in their final 7 liter pots. They look very happy and with that well-balanced organic feeling i like so much. It was also great to meet you this year at Spannabis again Take care

Always a pleasure my friend. You're the kindest.
As you know, Zenith will follow soon.

Yesterday, as I was pruning the bottom nodes, I could already smell tropical fruits in the air and a little bit of cedar, nothing to do with straight A5 for the most part and much more vibrant.

Let's see how they react after repotting. I've added a bit more rice hulls in order to make the soil mix lighter.

Thanks for your words

 

[The Zientist]

D45 - 11/13

Hey Ace fam!

Short update. A week has passed since repot, they are bulking up.
Amazing aromas. Quite tropical themed. I'll get some macros soon.

Somehow #3 (middle) isn't as happy as the others. I don't think the top is enjoying as much light as it's getting among other things. It should be past 700+µmol/s/m², measure soon.

See you soon!

 

[OZZ_]

D45 - 11/13 View attachment 18824642

Hey Ace fam!

Short update. A week has passed since repot, they are bulking up.
Amazing aromas. Quite tropical themed. I'll get some macros soon.

Somehow #3 (middle) isn't as happy as the others. I don't think the top is enjoying as much light as it's getting among other things. It should be past 700+µmol/s/m², measure soon.

See you soon!

Looking great! Probably another 45 (or more) to go!

 

[bluesat]

Nice. I guess you are the first person here who finished this cross. Could you say anything about the effect?

it’s only been jarred for about a month but it’s already really great smoke. I’ve been sampling a lot the last couple weeks to get a sense of it. Obviously it’s only going to improve but it’s a standout. Small doses give a nice long lasting cerebral effect. Not soaring, a little energizing due to accelerated thoughts but still more introspective. It’s not going to make you get up and go do something, you’re more likely to think about doing something but get distracted thinking about something else.

As you smoke more it’s a no ceiling cerebral and focused but also deep and confusing high, very long lasting and deceptively potent I would say. It’s a very strong but delicate buzz if that makes sense. If it’s the fourth thing you smoke that day or you smoke it with other things it won’t stand out because the specialness of the high is masked but let it be the first thing you smoke and its pretty special and profound.

For me low doses make me more outgoing and talkative but more leads to a high wire act of internal dialogues about my other internal dialogues while im talking.

 

[bluesat]

Thanks mate! You really killed it with yours, they look happy and healthy, thank you for sharing them as well.

What kind of effects, aromas and flavors did you get from them? The one you got is halfway similar in structure to both my #3 and #4.

I was checking all five mothers yesterday and I noticed that the amount of preflowers is increasing, and they are now showing stigma on their tops yet, but no anthers. They are clearly vegging though, no other changes to their growth behaviour.
I'm keeping them in 0.9L pots, and I'm getting the feeling that they need their roots trimmed and slightly bigger pots.

yeah I had The mom in a 1/4 gallon fabric pot and I guess it got root bound. I’m terrible at keeping mothers. smells are interesting and layered. lightly fruity with onions but in a good way! keep up the good work!

 

[bluesat]

D36 – 11/13 Repot to 7L



Delayed repot has been finally accomplished. Cleaned a couple of their bottom nodes to facilitate maintenance.
It should have happened around a week ago. Nothing too worrying, though some potential was left behind.

Two major architectures can be observed among all five. One has a wider habit, the side branches really spreads out of their nodes and the other is literally buds on a stick: no branc

’ve been really cautious with them, trying to contain their height and it seems it has worked too well. Now that stretching is mostly done, it does see they could have been taller. Well, I suppose some trauma over my latest A5S1 and Thai Chi cycles, ended up with me truly restricting their root space this time, for longer than necessary. Perhaps they’ll stretch a bit more now that they have more space to spread their roots an develop a bigger root mass.
Always learning, every variety a new

i was overly cautious about the stretch too. I have a Congo x a5 and a golden tiger x a5 going right now and I did it again! i kept both too short

 

[bluesat]

Great to have the chance to see yours @bluesat How were the terps and effects of the finished product ?

Yep, straight Zamal crosses can easily be sexually unstable with extreme photoperiod changes, and some individuals can show semi autoflowering traits. To avoid this (among many other reasons), that's why i'm mainly working and releasing genetics with Zamaldelica elite mother instead of straight pure Zamal crosses.

i appreciate that but i really enjoyed growing this and smoking it! the Zamaldelica x a5 and A5 x zamaldelica f2 are both on my list. Zenith too of course