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Pure Thai Seeds?

thejact55

Well-known member
The kerala will have a close resemblence to a thai IMO. I have 9 kerala babies in my tent now. The dude who did the open pollination of kerala also did the highland thai that rsc has. Hes fishing around this thread im sure hehe.
Ive grown out the malana and nanda (have a few nanda babies sprouted right now too) and the high is more of a relaxed light high, what i would assume is different than most thais. I think, but in no way am sure, that the nepal strains are a lower thc, with a touch more cbd strain.

Edit- your post already talks about thc cbd attributes. So ya, i agree

Also- more is better, by all means support nhamka and buy 500. I buy a couple packs max and open pollinate, then have 100s or more to play with. Another idea for searching these more rustic offerings.
 

xet

Active member
Sorry ThaiBliss I meant to add your name to the original post and not Tangwena.:smoky:

Someone mentioned in another thread roving through seeds to chase a particular trait and this had me wonder .. even with a Seedsman Thai/Skunk cross is it not possible, in the scheme of genetics, for the skunk to remain recessive and the Thai to be 100% of it's expression (assuming one trudges through the genepool of seeds)?

Great input so far thank you everyone.

This Nepal theme keeps popping up as to where the original Thai Stick of the 60's wandered off to on a commercial level and is now wildly populating the mountains.

Does anyone have experience with Arjan's Ultra Haze #2? Looks absolutely amazing

Neville's Haze x Mango Haze x Laos.

https://www.seedsman.com/en/arjan-s-ultra-haze-2-feminised-seeds
 

willydread

Dread & Alive
Veteran
no offense to anyone, I'm not a fanboy, but I do not believe the info given by ghs about the genetics of their products...especially about that laos:with all that tropical sativa genetics you should see plants with very long flowering, with very thin leaves, absolutely not ideal for indoors...this is only my point of view.... ;)
 

mr.brunch

Well-known member
Veteran
I have to say, the Hawaiian snow I grew from ghs was very thin leaf, vine like growth, long flowering... hard to manage indoors. Smoke was very powerful, all in the head- almost trippy, but just a little too raw/racey for my liking.
Absolutely no bag appeal, so it was funny watching disappointed looking friends turn white after half a spliff.
 

willydread

Dread & Alive
Veteran
Hawaiian snow is different,mostly sativa...maybe one of the few strains that I would like from ghs ...
 

thejact55

Well-known member
I have to say, the Hawaiian snow I grew from ghs was very thin leaf, vine like growth, long flowering... hard to manage indoors. Smoke was very powerful, all in the head- almost trippy, but just a little too raw/racey for my liking.
Absolutely no bag appeal, so it was funny watching disappointed looking friends turn white after half a spliff.

Yes, i have a stash of hawaiian snow. Very nice strain, despite where it came from. Top three favorite worked strain.
 

mr.brunch

Well-known member
Veteran
Yes, i have a stash of hawaiian snow. Very nice strain, despite where it came from. Top three favorite worked strain.

Yes lovely strong bud, but I always thought it could do with taming for indoor growth.... outdoor it would produce some massive trees.
Indoor , a cross with nl or dc would be interesting

Also worth remembering that gh is a seed producer/seller.... most strains are bred by other breeders then mass produced by ghs.
 
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Water-

GHS used to sell a pure Thai/Lao plant.

the have a youtube arjan/franco grow video of it
 

xet

Active member
Being that I am not able to find these pure Thai seeds these are the strains, in random order, most piquing my interest:

Suppose this is my "Thai alternatives" list though some of these strains will possess some Thai..

Kerala
South Indian Kerala Ganja Cultivar
  1. The effect from this Keralan strain is up and creative, racy and energizing, but without an edge of panic or paranoia.
  2. The aroma when smoked is heavy, sweet and pungent.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/kerala-seeds
The Real Seed Company

Sinai
Pure Egyptian Sinai
  1. The high from Sinai cannabis is distinctive, with a medicinal and blissful effect that makes it unique.
  2. There seem to be two main phenotypes to this strain: an indica expression of about 0.6m - 1.5m with a typical Christmas tree profile; and a larger more sativa type of about 1.3m - 1.8m height, with a more trainable vine growth habit.
    Both plants have a very unique perfumed aroma, with the indica types giving off a more rank and pungent smell during vegetative growth. Buds grow in a foxtail structure, are reasonably airy, and are covered in resin. The indica pheno is less leafy and more dense. The plants are very hardy
https://www.seedsman.com/en/sinai-regular-seeds
The Real Seed Company

Malana
Himalayan domestic charas strain
  1. Consumed in moderation this strain gives a bright, cerebral buzz which is very sociable and giddy; larger quantities produce a highly mind-altering psychedelic effect. This is the Champagne of the cannabis resin market.
  2. Aromas are reminiscent of overripe fruit and mango, and are sickly sweet like traditional Indian milk confectionary.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/malana-seeds
The Real Seed Company

Ethiopian
Pure land-race sativa
  1. extremely well-received by lovers of cannabis sativa as it induces a superb high which is active, alert, social, energetic, lethargy-free, high in positivity and which is also devoid of paranoia-inducing effects.
  2. Its aroma and flavour is typically sativa with earthy and woody notes underpinned by floral and musk hints and a suggestion of fermented citrus.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/ethiopian-regular-seeds
Ace Seeds

Arjan's Ultra Haze #2
Neville's Haze x Mango Haze x Laos
  1. The effect produced is strongly psycho-active and long-lasting as well as being very uplifting and good for social occasions.
  2. Long-lasting, Psychedelic, Strong, Talkative, Uplifting
  3. The taste is a mixture of fruity and woody tones.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/arjan-s-ultra-haze-2-feminised-seeds
Greenhouse Seed Company

Honduras
2nd generation pure landrace sativa from Honduras.
  1. The effect is without ceiling or come-down and it is recommended for migraine sufferers and those with a tendency to apathy.
  2. Cerebral, Creative, Happy
  3. the effect is very clear, clean and physically active it being suitable for various activities and work.
  4. The aroma and flavour is typically sativa being floral, citric, woody and spicy.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/honduras-regular-seeds
Ace Seeds

Zamaldelica
Zamal x Malawi/Thai
  1. super sativa hybrid of terrific lysergic effect and amazing vigorous growth
  2. legendary psychedelic effect
  3. trippy effect
  4. sweet carrot and floral fragrances
https://www.seedsman.com/en/zamaldelica-regular-seeds
Ace Seeds

Nirvana Sky
Nepalese Land-Race x Stitch 0.1
  1. extremely psycho-active cannabis strain that is euphoric with racy energy, positive vibes and sometimes with hallucinatory effects.
  2. Nirvana Sky will prove an absolute delight for lovers of racy sativa strains.
  3. Tasting of Nepalese hash with lemon/citrus
https://www.seedsman.com/en/nirvana-sky-superauto-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

Number One Super Auto
Nepalese x White Widow x Stitch 0.1
  1. Its effect is motivating, creative and excellent for physical activities especially dancing.
  2. Creative, Motivating, Stimulating
https://www.seedsman.com/en/number-one-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

Annapurna
KC 33 x Kerala x STITCH 0.1
  1. very well-balanced effect that is relaxing, uplifting and, simply, joyous. Some claim that it perfect for stimulating creativity for those so inclined.
  2. Body, Creative, Happy, Relaxing, Strong, Uplifting
  3. taste of mountain-grown hashish with sweet, menthol notes
https://www.seedsman.com/en/annapurna-superauto-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

Holy Man Auto
Parvati x Kerala x Mexican Ruderalis
  1. the closest that you can come to fully understanding the meaning of the word sacred. It has a truly positive energy that translates into a very happy and uplifting sensation bringing inner calm and contentment transcending your worldly worries.
  2. Energetic, Happy, Uplifting
https://www.seedsman.com/en/holy-man-autoflowering-regular-seeds-8
Flash Seeds

Green Haze
Euforia x Automatic Skunk
  1. This is mainly an influence from Thai and southern Indian sativas original genotype of Haze population.
  2. Energetic, Euphoric, Happy
https://www.seedsman.com/en/green-haze-regular-seeds
Ace Seeds

Euforia
Euforia x Automatic Skunk
  1. Energetic, Euphoric, Happy
  2. The high is euphoric, happy and energising.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/auto-euforia-feminised-seeds
Dutch Passion

Colombian Gold
Colombian Santa Marta
  1. Cerebral, Powerful, Psychedelic
  2. very potent, cerebral and, at times, quite psychedelic
  3. The aroma is intensely sweet with a sweet fruity flavour
https://www.seedsman.com/en/colombian-gold-reg-seeds
World of Seeds

Super Blueberry Auto
Super Silver Haze x Blueberry x Mexican Sativa
  1. Energetic, Happy, Psychedelic, Uplifting
  2. It can border on quite a psychedelic feeling at times if over-indulgence occurs.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/super-blueberry-haze-autoflowering-regular-seeds-8
Flash Seeds

Brain's Choice
Lamsbread Jamaica, Leda Uno & White Widow
  1. mild sweet and slightly hash aroma
https://www.seedsman.com/en/brains-choice-feminised-seeds
KC Brains

Kali Mist
2 Sativa Dominant Hybrids
  1. Gives a very strong, clear and energizing High.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/kali-mist-seeds
Serious Seeds

Panama Lime
Panama x Mango Biche x Stitch0.2
  1. Energetic, Happy
  2. powerful, clear and positive energy which promotes feelings of happiness and contentment.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/panama-lime-superauto-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

The list is larger but I gotta run.. will add to this list in another post
 
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growhigh1233

i can vouch for the zamaldelica i have a pheno that blasts you to outa space.........all head and trippy..................i also have a very trippy nevs haze pheno ..... allot of nevs haze (mns seeds 20 regulars)) pheno's are very indica in look and high............... but iv found a very sativa leaning male and female
 

troutman

Seed Whore
Being that I am not able to find these pure Thai seeds these are the strains, in random order, most piquing my interest:

Don't give up yet. Some Thais seeds may pop up. :whistling:

BTW: One of my Thais is from The Real Seed Company and the other is an unknown right from the source.
 

xet

Active member
"Thai alternatives" List continued from earlier post

White Magic
Democratic Republic of Congo
  1. Creative, Energetic, Stimulating , Uplifting
  2. huge foxtail colas that extend outwards like tentacles.
  3. creamy coating of resin
  4. creative-intellectual awakening with an electric edge.
  5. cerebral Sativa trip without worrying about negative side effects like a racy heart
  6. high mold resistance
  7. Lemon, Pepper, Skunk
https://www.seedsman.com/en/white-magic-feminised-seeds
Mandela Seeds

Harmony
Santa Marta Colombian Gold x OG Kush x Lemon Thai
  1. Motivating
  2. super lifting and motivating when used in moderation
  3. This is what Reeferman calls his ‘Holy Grail’ – the strain he is most proud of and would like to recommend above all his others.
  4. flavour is distinctively lemon kush.
  5. Bred by Charles Scott.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/harmony-regular-seeds
Reeferman

Mango Haze CBD
Mostly Sativa
  1. happy, uplifted, energetic, clear minded, No Paranoia
  2. Mango, Pepper, Pineapple, Spicy / Herbal
  3. CBD Mango Haze has exceeded the ranges of CBD to THC and CBD Crew have seen plants ranging from the prerequisite 1:1 ratio to as far as 1:2, THC to CBD.
  4. Resin production is impressive
https://www.seedsman.com/en/cbd-mango-haze-feminised-seeds
CBD Crew

Mother's Finest
Mostly Sativa
  1. Cerebral, Powerful, Uplifting
  2. very potent, cerebral and uplifting in true sativa style.
  3. Earthy, Fruity, Haze, Musky, Pine, Skunk
https://www.seedsman.com/en/mother-s-finest-seeds
Sensi Seeds

Himalayan Gold
Nepal and North Indian
  1. Very creative high, very strong body feeling.
  2. One of the most acclaimed outdoor plants ever, winner of many private harvest festivals worldwide.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/himalayan-gold-feminised-seeds
Greenhouse Seed Company

Malawi x Panama
Malawi x Panama
  1. Cerebral, Long-lasting, Powerful, Psychedelic, Stimulating
  2. highly cerebral, trippy and cause for considerable introversion and reflection. It is powerful and very long-lasting both physically and mentally.
  3. Lemon, Spicy / Herbal, Woody
https://www.seedsman.com/en/malawi-x-panama-feminised-seeds
Ace Seeds

Oldtimer's Haze
Hybrid of different tropical sativas: Mexican, Purp
  1. The Haze was developed in California in the 1960s and 70s by crossing some of the best tropical sativas which had been imported during that period. The Oldtimer's Haze population has been preserved intact until today by Oldtimer, a british breeder, and then reproduced by our own breeders using a wide variety of parental plants. Oldtimer’s Haze still preserves the genetic diversity that many present Haze lines have already lost, and it is possible to find phenotypes ranging from the mythic and nearly extinct “Purple Haze” to the most popular “Green Haze” phenotype, and of course intermediate combinations as well.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/oldtimer-s-haze-regular-seeds
Ace Seeds

Holy Punch
The Church x Grape
  1. Powerful, Talkative
  2. The initial hit is quite a powerful indica-type stone at first but this actually lightens up and levels out into a much more social feeling after a while.
  3. Spicy / Herbal, Sweet
https://www.seedsman.com/en/holy-punch-feminised-seeds
Greenhouse Seed Company

Golden Haze
Super Silver Haze x Amnesia Haze
  1. Creative, Euphoric, Uplifting
  2. Earthy, Haze, Pungent
https://www.seedsman.com/en/golden-haze-feminised-seeds
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California Wildfire
(NL#5 x Chemdawg #4) x Lost Coast OG
  1. Powerful, Psychedelic
  2. very powerful, almost hallucinogenic
  3. Citrus, Earthy, Sour
  4. enormous colas consisting of the familiar coke-bottle shaped calyxes
https://www.seedsman.com/en/california-wildfire-feminised-seeds
Emerald Triangle

707 Headband
Mendocino elite clone x True OG
  1. Cerebral, Energetic, Euphoric, Long-lasting, Powerful
  2. plants can reach impressive heights, in excess of 4 meters
  3. yields being almost out of this world; anything between one and four (yes, 4!!) kilos dried weight
  4. super soar-away sativa
  5. powerfully cerebral, invigorating and energising with feelings of utter euphoria which are long-lasting. A true sativa-lover's dream.
  6. Citrus, Pine
https://www.seedsman.com/en/707-headband-feminised-seeds
Humboldt Seeds

Sweet Coffee Ryder
Ruderalis x Colombian Santa Maria
  1. Euphoric
  2. euphoric high inducing feelings of happiness and contentment which evolves into a nice relaxing feeling.
  3. Coffee, Fruity, Sweet
  4. large central cola although there is good side-branching
  5. HARVEST MONTH 70 - 80 days from germination
https://www.seedsman.com/en/sweet-coffee-ryder-autoflowering-feminised-seeds
World of Seeds

Psicodelicia
USA x Nepal strains
  1. Creative, Energetic, Stimulating
  2. mentally stimulating, energetic high that is quite creative
  3. Coffee, Spicy / Herbal, Sweet
https://www.seedsman.com/en/psicodelicia-feminised-seedspsicodelicia-psicodelicia-feminised-seeds
Sweet Seeds

Nepal Jam
Nepalese highland x Jamaica '85
  1. Energetic, Long-lasting
  2. clear headed, energetic type of effect, that lasts hours and hours
  3. highly adaptive to warm or cold climates; sudden weather surprises don't affect her yield which is around 400 gr. per outside plant.
  4. first class hash, in just 9 weeks of flowering.
  5. Fruity, Woody
https://www.seedsman.com/en/nepal-jam-feminised-seeds
Ace Seeds

Buzz Light Gear
Amnesia Haze x Kali Mist x G13 Haze
  1. Makes your day perfect, as it gives an exciting, energising high – encouraging you 2 infinity ‘n’ beyond!
  2. capable of causing temporary periods of immobility and singing you a sweet a lullaby drifting you to sleep more successfully than one's mother ever could.
  3. 100% sativa
  4. One for the connoisseurs & daytrippers –
  5. strong overtones of the hazes and mist + an undertone of orange bud.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/buzz-light-gear-feminised-seeds
Dr Krippling Seeds

Ogre Auto
Short Term Amnesia (Soma's Amnesia Haze x LowRyder) *1 X Hindu Kush *2 X Durban Skunk *3
  1. psychedelic, highly visually creative, energy
https://www.seedsman.com/en/seedsman-ogre-autoflowering-feminised-seeds
Seedsman

Sugar Haze
Santa Marta x Haze
  1. sativa-dominant Haze
  2. Eat this stuff...more than you usually would. its pure bliss.
  3. brought me back to the 70's when the Lebonese Blond Hash was going around.
  4. Very heavy citrus smelling dense buds and strong long-lasting high.
  5. grade A knock your d@ck in a hole kinda stuff
https://www.seedsman.com/en/sugar-haze-seeds
Seedsman

Wild Thailand Ryder Auto
Wild Thailand x Ruderalis
  1. Energetic, Euphoric, Happy
  2. cerebral and energising producing feelings of euphoria which are likely to be helpful therapeutically for those suffering from stress and depression.
  3. Citrus, Flowery, Spicy / Herbal, Sweet
  4. HARVEST MONTH 75 - 80 days from germination
https://www.seedsman.com/en/wild-thailand-ryder-autoflowering-feminised-seeds
World of Seeds

Russian Haze Auto
Speedy G x White Sirius
  1. Euphoric, Motivating, Uplifting
  2. full of pleasure and joy; a truly uplifting strain that will melt away your cares and give a renewed sense of optimism.
  3. One was super short and finished very early (several weeks to a month early). The other is still growing strong but has a while left to go.
https://www.seedsman.com/en/russian-haze-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

More of this list on a future post .. stay tuned
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Yes lovely strong bud, but I always thought it could do with taming for indoor growth.... outdoor it would produce some massive trees.
Indoor , a cross with nl or dc would be interesting

Also worth remembering that gh is a seed producer/seller.... most strains are bred by other breeders then mass produced by ghs.

Instead of HPS using indoors you could go for CDM 315 W or Cree led 3590 3500K.The blue in these lights will tame sativa's far more than HPS.
Cross it with an indica strain shall give more a stoned effect unless you can breed it to a more kind of Neville's Haze.
 

Satyros

Member
No,my experiences with WOS germination ratio are bad....but i had look on web her plants,thai and columbian,and you can find some pheno from nld long flowering sativa to mostly indica type.
My opinion is that many thai strain of today coming from the super thai x skunk from highquality seeds,a seedbank of late '90,now closed....

Ok...I can understand a low rate could make someone leery about the seed source. I'm less convinced that the mixing of skunk into so many things, means that it's definitely mixed into everything.

I see they have an auto version, but not feminized...perhaps Seedsman did that on their own? (Edit: my bad. "Feminized" is kind of hidden and that's what theirs are; again, I don't think the ones I have are.)

Wild Thailand will probably be the next thing I try in about a week or so; we'll find out soon if this year's batch is a poor germinator.
 

thejact55

Well-known member
Wild thailand finished in like 10 weeks for me. Blah. I got some columbian freebied from them, im in no rush to hop on em. I did like the morrocco though, but for sativa type landraces id never trust em. 10 weeks for a thai is bullpoo. It did have that peppery swampy smell of a thai though.
Kerala is close to thai imo.
Sinai is nothing like thai, but one of my favorite strains. Quick finisher, heavy yeilder of semi fluffy buds with a perfumey incense smell.
Malana was a light high (which i like). They get huge, no more than a 2 gallon pot indoors) and are finiky to grow.
Oldtimer haze, i have yet to pop these beans, but if you want a crazy sativa, this would work. Be patient, they go long.
I just grew ethiopian, it seems true to its name and fairly unworked. A light citrus smell, light to medium resin. Honduras i think would be the same thing. Pretty legit and unworked. Most of aces and cannabiogen are true to its name, but worked so many generations, too many IMO. Dumbed down is the word i use for em, but good none the less.
As stated earlier, outside of hawaiian snow, id pass on grennhouse and world of seeds.
That madala congo sounds interesting, but ive never heard of it, and no nothing about it. The harmony, same thing, sounds cool
Theres a few cool choices in your list. I say buy em all and show em to us lol ;)
 

thejact55

Well-known member
I havent looked for em for years. Does seedman or 'tude have em?
I gave a few to my wifes son this year. They turned out amazing. Reminded my why ive been sitting on em for so long. Just wish they werent femmed.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
The goal here is to find the 100%, untampered, Thai strains with those special, soaring, seering, synesthesia, trippy, psychedelic genetics Tangwena's famous thread is after.

Hopefully this thread inspires commercial seed providers to hop on a plane and travel by donkey to make these wonderful genetics available again without watering the genetics down with short-cycle indicas and other continents since it seems there is an agenda to disappear the highest highs of sativa and couch-lock the globe.

To start I discovered Mama Thai with Seedsman is crossed with Skunk for example so I am not interested in that style Thai.

I will list names/breeder/links so in the event someone has knowledge of said strain then those are seeds worthy of ordering immediately.

What is it that makes Thai so special? THCV gives African strains that high energy but what is it in the Thai? High CBN and THCV? CBG?

I realize there are other seed websites so please if you know of other providers/strains I will add to this list but for the sake of debate right now I am scouring Seedsman.com to launch the search for something on order today. Again I am excluding all Thai with skunk crosses (Blue thai, purple haze x thai, etc) and if I listed one that does not fit the bill let me know.

As an aside Seedsman was offering a "Thai" strain, separate from their Mama Thai, available in 100 seed pack, that is now removed from the website in the last 48 hours or so. Why?

Highland Thai https://www.seedsman.com/en/highland-thai-regular-seeds
The Real Seed Company

Wild Thailand https://www.seedsman.com/en/wild-thailand-seeds
World of Seeds

Green House Thai https://www.seedsman.com/en/green-house-thai-feminised-seeds
Greenhouse Seed Company


Muay Thai Superautohttps://www.seedsman.com/en/muay-thai-superauto-feminised-seeds-3
Flash Seeds

I would like this list to grow but it is evident Thai is diminishing in commercial popularity though an underground movement might reawaken this giant.

:ying:

Well can't say that Mama Thai is a Skunk hybrid with Thai.Don't know where you read it, but this Bud was from 18 wks pheno.

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