TINY RASCAL
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555 The most hilarious CANNABIS LEGALISATION LAW. Thanks to Mr. Prayut Chan-o-cha.
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Pure Thai Sativas
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Thai, from somewhere in Esaan...
I haven't met Thai sticks, so I'm speaking for hypotheses and theories, my opinion is that that was a golden age for Southeast Asian ganjah, in the following decades some of the genetics are degraded, or hybridized ...
But I am also convinced that not all sticks were the same, some were of better quality than others, and they are the ones that started the legend ....
I haven't met Thai sticks, so I'm speaking for hypotheses and theories, my opinion is that that was a golden age for Southeast Asian ganjah, in the following decades some of the genetics are degraded, or hybridized ...
But I am also convinced that not all sticks were the same, some were of better quality than others, and they are the ones that started the legend ....
Taima-da
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I'm sure most here have seen, there are cannabis fossils 2+ million years old from... Germany... displaying both wide and narrow leaf types
A quote, by no means true or definitive, from the website www.rxleaf.com:
"Fossil pollen records tell us that cannabis dispersed into Europe 6 million years ago. Then later East into China 1.2 million years ago."
This may not refer to C. sativa as we know it today but still, a shake up.
We're all potentially using the descendants of German landrace.
A quote, by no means true or definitive, from the website www.rxleaf.com:
"Fossil pollen records tell us that cannabis dispersed into Europe 6 million years ago. Then later East into China 1.2 million years ago."
This may not refer to C. sativa as we know it today but still, a shake up.
We're all potentially using the descendants of German landrace.
GrandpaMillenial
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Nien! They where just having the best octoberfests!I'm sure most here have seen, there are cannabis fossils 2+ million years old from... Germany... displaying both wide and narrow leaf types
A quote, by no means true or definitive, from the website www.rxleaf.com:
"Fossil pollen records tell us that cannabis dispersed into Europe 6 million years ago. Then later East into China 1.2 million years ago."
This may not refer to C. sativa as we know it today but still, a shake up.
We're all potentially using the descendants of German landrace.
2 mya is a long time, their could have been a few entire glacial periods in between the broad leaf and narrow leaved fossils.
Cannabis likely split from its closest relative, Humulus (hops), around 27.8 million years ago according to molecular clock estimates.
Im gonna just go out on a limb here and assume that the broadleaf varieties developed first.
checkout these cool wild hops outlier phenotypes looking pretty familiar extra blades candy cane stem etc
GrandpaMillenial
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Yeah, thats very familiar candy cane striping and may provide evidence that the family Cannabaceae has had this feature for a very long time.
another thing i find myself thinking about, cannabis evolving from a vine to an upright self supporting plant.
also these hops plants live on for years. outside of the tropics cannabis is effectively an annual.
cannabis is an annual in the tropics too , the location doesnt change that habit ...
GrandpaMillenial
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Ive heard a couple instances of plants in equatorial regions lasting a few years on their own. I think mel frank even wrote about it.
yea he maybe did , but if he had the experience he would have said it never happened,
he was just repeating something someone had told him who liked to believe unfounded stuff is all ,
i can tell you 100% for sure , after 30 + years growing in the tropics ,
more than most grow , thousands and thousands of plants , many many varieties ,
not one plant lasted 2 years ,
one i nursed along over a year once , but the original root system had died and the plant had rooted along the stem further where it layed on the soil ,
cannabis is an annual , you cant change that ,
the only thing you can do is take cuttings and reveg them ,
one thing they will do in the tropics that they dont do elsewhere ,
is they will reveg so you might get a year from 1 plant that grew twice ,
has to be planted at the right time etc ,
still makes it an annual though given that growth all occurs within 1 year ...
he was just repeating something someone had told him who liked to believe unfounded stuff is all ,
i can tell you 100% for sure , after 30 + years growing in the tropics ,
more than most grow , thousands and thousands of plants , many many varieties ,
not one plant lasted 2 years ,
one i nursed along over a year once , but the original root system had died and the plant had rooted along the stem further where it layed on the soil ,
cannabis is an annual , you cant change that ,
the only thing you can do is take cuttings and reveg them ,
one thing they will do in the tropics that they dont do elsewhere ,
is they will reveg so you might get a year from 1 plant that grew twice ,
has to be planted at the right time etc ,
still makes it an annual though given that growth all occurs within 1 year ...
Here's a thread about the subject if it's possible that Cannabis can act like a perennial or not in the tropics.
Perennial (multi year) Cannabis plants/strains. Anybody any proof?
Hi ICMag family, As the title says, I'm looking for some proof that Cannabis has the ability to be -in certain circumstances- a perennial? I have read several stories of giant Cannabis trees that were years and even decades old. But these are all just stories that I heard. My foremost...
www.icmag.com
xet
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As a side note from what I read it is not yet proven that all Cannabis and all Hopps cannot interbreed. Something about pollen being highly varied and sometimes genetically fringe/drifting/intermingling. Probably to do with earth's greater plan of survival (think Australian Bastard Cannabis). I am not proposing this is done for dominance but rather for peripheral continuity like the slowest animal being taken by the bear and the strongest ones multiplying in perpetuity forever.
Cannabis needs it's own category, neither annual or perrennial, Cannabis meets nature's demands, Cannabis would probably drop seed 10x a year and die and sprout and fruit every time if it was forced to follow along with nature's grand plan.
The never-ending flowering sativas--sativas know they can wait on pollen and wait some more. Animals, bees, things will bring the pollen. Mountainous indicas will not be far in growing from one another nor will their pollinators find difficulty in helping their population along.
People keep mother plants for decades, trimming the roots back down, repotting it.
Thai is probably the strong fast one of Cannabis. I doubt people will be talking about the gelato poop scooper fruity dingaling strains in 50 years.
the thai's are smart and industrious people im sure large scale selections on pure thai populations are already taking place .....call me a glass half full kinda guy, but the best Thai weed may have yet to come 
that's how I see it too
in the end it's about traditional knowledge getting passed on.
with a legal environment, this should be at least be preserved if not grow exponentially.
there will be different grades of quality just like in the US
you gotta have the right connections to get the really good stuff, which just isn't commercially available for good reason. It's simply profit margins, even at a higher prices it's often hard to compete against the mass of chaff. I call it the McDonald's phenomenon, shure they could make better food, but as long as the masses buy, why change?
The best mostly never left the native lands. Rare even there. My theory of why there is so little great landrace now. Very little at any time including the past. Mass production almost always degrades quality. Also, the very stimulating and sometimes scary lines, were just too much for most people to handle.
since you would select for yield, yes of course
again, it's supply and demand.
us here, we are freaks asking for that special, but your average customer doesn't even know it exists.
no reason to go the landrace route commercially
xet
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Even if they tried it they still wouldn't know it exists.
Babylon programs the public to get in line.
They could sip the finest orange juice on earth and then sip that orange-colored corn syrup Sunny D crap and tell you with a straight face they both taste exactly the same.
Emerald Thai,
xet
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Masterful work
