Pure Sats from seed late start ??

[MountZionCollec]

vegging them outdoors...I bring them inside at night before sunset and back out in morning.

I have them in 1 liter airpots, I will keep them in here for 2 weeks or so and then place into 3 foot wide 2 foot tall smart pots with organic soil.

 

[Koondense]

Nice, looking forward to the sativa show
How are your monsters, already flowering?

 

[jay sus]

EVERY PROFILE WILL BE REALLY APPRECIATED! I don´t think i could get my buds analyzed anywhere where i live.

 

[MountZionCollec]

The bigger stuff really isn't flowering yet but the stuff in the smaller 100 gallon pots are starting to flower, one plant is totally covered in resin!

 

[jay sus]

smaller 100 gallon pots!

 

[MountZionCollec]

So I have a couple mice inside my home and they ate the head off my only purple haze Thai so she's gone, and one purple haze, and just last nite my 2 purple haze* Malawi and 2 old timers haze and 1 Tikal.

Right now I have 1 purple haze, 2 destroyer left from 1st batch.

2nd batch: both purple haze*malawi sprouted from soil after 2.5 days but were killed. 2 panama haze, 1 zamaldelica, 2 Tikal sprouted at day 3. Still waiting on 2 Tikal.

Just made another 2 orders!!!!! Lots of interesting stuff!!!

Green haze*thai: 12
Ghana: 3
Punto Rojo: 8
Mangobiche: 8
Laos Luang Prabang: 3
Old Congo: 5
Green haze: 5 from new stock
Old timers haze: 5
Purple haze*malawi: 1
Guatemala: 8
Mama Thai: 6
Malawi gold: 5

I will be double-quadruple planting in 100-200 gallon smart pots and then rip out the males when they show.

 

[MountZionCollec]

I have some seriously poor karma with rodents, brought the rest of the seedlings into my room last night and the mice climbed up on chairs and ate all alive seeds and dug up and destroyed the rest batch 1 and batch 2. Wife is going crazy think we're getting a cat.

Glad I made the 2 extra seed orders. I'm going to cover there containers in breathable mesh where no air flow is restricted and no damn mice can get in at night.

 

[dubi]

Damn mice! Sorry to hear it, guess is time to get a cat!

 

[MountZionCollec]

Started batch-1 2.5 days ago I have them covered in mesh to protect from the mice!

So having the squirrels kill my plants and starting this thread really evolved my strategy moving forward!



I will do three harvest 2016 I'm still "finalizing" the strains but this is where I'm currently at.

Main harvest started in April, harvested in September/october
Maple leaf indica: 100 reg
PCK: 60 fem
Taskenti: 60 fem
CBD Harle tsu: 100 reg
Malawi: 60 Fem


Harvest 2: when I harvest the first grow every plant that finishes I will replace with these strains.

Purple haze*malawi: 60 fem
Panama haze: 60 fem
Purple haze*thai: 120
Green haze* Thai*120


Harvest 3: I will germinate mid September and will place in the 5 gallon airpots that were used to transplant in harvest 2. I will place them in my 300 square foot greenhouse, 225 5 gallon airpots can fit.

Mangobiche: 150
Punto Rojo: 150
Ghana: 10
Suda Africa: 10
Old Congo: 10
Old timers haze: 20
Green haze: 20
Purple haze:10
Original haze: 20
Double Thai: 20

Decided to look for Punto Rojo and Mangobiche mothers in the greenhouse in case there are any hermis they will be on smaller plants isolated in the greenhouse away from the main grow. The other strains are more just for testing purposes i am not growing enough seeds of them to look for mothers.



I germinate everything in 1 liter airpots in soil. I will be sending of the early leaves into steep hill for sexing within 2 weeks from seed so I don't waste any time on males.

 

[konopenko]

Sounds like serious plan bro, I specially like your greenhouse...looks superb and clean

 

[MountZionCollec]

Thx Kono, my dad designed the greenhouse and flew out from Indiana with my Mom for vacation to help me build it this past spring. It cost ~$1500 to build in about 4 days.


Yes it is a serious plan, I presented the wife with it this morning and she was not fully into the idea of so much additional work but as long as we find the right helper next year it won't be an unreasonable amount of work. I think she more disliked the idea of $$buying so many seeds lol.

For harvest #2 Also I told her we will only trim the best tops and put the rest in the sold to processors pile so we won't have to spend time/money on trimming it.

On harvest 3 in the greenhouse I told her it will be on automatic watering and we will kill anything that is sick or weak and we won't spend a lot of "extra" work in them. Then at harvest it will be easy just cut the whole plant at the base and hang dry then again I will only trim the best tops and throw the rest in processor pile.



As of day 2.75 on batch 1

Germinations
Ghana: 2/3
Laos: 2/3
Mangobiche: 2/3
Punto Rojo: 0/3
Old Congo: 2/3
Green haze Thai: 2/7

Very happy with the germination rates so far, was expecting worse.

batch 2 should be arriving in the mail in The next day or so.

Batch 3 will be arriving in 1-2 weeks.

 

[MountZionCollec]

Germinations as of day 3.5

Mangobiche: 3/3
Punto Rojo: 3/3
Laos sativa: 2/3
Green haze Thai: 3/7
Old Congo: 2/3.
Ghana: 3/3.

 

[jay sus]

jebus! that is some roster for -16. i´m very glad you are able to do this scale grow, and have squirrel and mice to worry about. lots of good strains. ghana, lao and colombianas are of great interest. hazes etc of course too. good luck!

 

[MountZionCollec]

Ya the squirrels will continue as long as there is a drought, they tear open the plants to suck water I believe, I expect to lose plants to them each year. The mice I was told by the native tribe on the other side of the hill are coming to our mountain also in search of water as they said the mountain is "holding" onto the water so supposedly my ground water level has increased since the drought?? I really don't know how I will handle the mice next year with all the seeds that's a problem for next year, I've already killed 6 or 7.

2nd batch just arrived will be sowing them tonite

Punto Rojo: 5
Mangobiche: 5
Green haze Thai: 5
Old Congo: 2
Malawi gold: 5
Mama Thai: 6

 

[MountZionCollec]

The wife built a big home to protect the seeds from any more mice!





This is a picture of batch one.

From top left to top right: Laos, Laos, punto rojo, punto rojo.

2nd row from top you can read tags.

3rd row: Ghana, mangobiche, mangobiche, green haze Thai

Bottom row: Ghana, mangobiche, old Congo.

Mangobiche has the thinnest leaves followed by punto rojo.

Batch 2: day 4.5, been slightly cooler at night I think is slowing down the Colombians

Mama Thai: 5/6
Green haze Thai: 3/5
Old Congo: 1/2
Malawi gold: 4/5
Mangobiche: 1/5
Punto rojo: 0/5

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I have half of garden set up, 10 pots of 100-200 gallons will be putting another another 10 I hope so that I can place ~4 plants in each pot

 

[MountZionCollec]

1 more Mangobiche germinated and 2 punto rojo germinated.



Current updated plan for next season searching for mothers in some strains and just experimenting with others. Instead of paying to get tested for male/female I have organized it in a way where I will only have 225 healthy 5 gallon air pot plants in the greenhouse. Though harvest 2 I will need to test all of the non feminized.

The main garden will be organized in rows in my hillside in pot sizes from 150 gallons-300 gallons (3.5'-5' wide 2' deep). I only have 8" at best of soil before hitting volcanic bed or mountain top so no terraces and no in the ground.

I will set up tunnel hoop house style greenhouses so I can cover harvest 2 from bad weather. I will also put in wind blockers around the entire garden as it can get windy on my mountain side.

I will be taking cuttings on all plants for storage for after harvest selection. All flowers will be climate controlled dried and jar cured. If ur in NorCal next year looking to try something exotic I'm sure I got ya covered

Harvest #1 will lean towards early flowering pure or pureish indicas so I can get the pure sativa replacement into the pot as early as possible. This is why I dropped taskenti. It's good for growing a huge indica but not good if you desire an earlier harvest outdoors.

Strain name....# Seeds popped....# of healthy plants expected
Bubba kush*hash plant.....20....15
Maple leaf indica...30.....20
Panama Dc fem.....20.....15
Deep chunk.....50.....20
Afghan chitral.....30...20
Petrolia headstash.....30.....20
Peyote purple.....30.....20

Pakistan chitral kush fem...60.....45
CBD harle tsu.....80.....20 (in CBD:THC ratios I like)
Malawi fem.....50.....35

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Harvest 2

Green haze*Malawi.....60.....35
Purple haze*malawi fem.....30.....20
Destroyer Fem.....50.....30
Green haze*panama fem.....30.....20
Purp haze*panama fem.....30.....20
Green haze*thai.....60.....30
Purp haze*thai.....60.....30
Punto Rosa.....100.....60

I will double plant some pots if I have extra healthy females.

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Harvest 3 in the greenhouse in 5 gallon airpots in my greenhouse

Colombian Mangobiche.....150.....80
Colombian punto rojo.....150.....80
Old timers haze.....60.....35
Green haze.....60.....35
Double Thai.....15.....5
Laos.....15.....5
Ghana.....15.....5
Sudaafrica.....15.....5
Old Congo.....15.....5
Vietnam black*thai.....15.....5


With ~225 plants of regular seeds in GH I'm guessing I will end up with 150 females which is good because as they stretch I will need the space. If space continues to be an issue I'll just keep hacking away at the losers.

 

[ValleyKush]

Nice line up man! You are going to be in heaven, never have to smoke the same thing twice. Wheres the zamaladelica at though? Just kidding, I'm jelous.

If you dont mind, in my opinion growing in the earth is always preferable if you are leaving the plant in place all year. Canabis has insanely strong roots that can chip away at the bed rock year after year giving you more and more room. If you plan on staying on that property for a while your crops will only get better and better. And who knows, maybe one day they will hit the water table and you can cut your watering down to almost nothing. (As long as this drought ends) Not to mention the volcanic bed rock is very nutritious! If I were in your position I would go with raised beds, you could even just cut the bottoms out of pots. Since starting to put plants in the ground I will never go back.

Anyways, excited to see the progress!

 

[MadMac]

wow respect!
it would be a dream to have the possibilities you have...
So great to try so many different strains @ one season.
Keep posting and bud shots too...
Good Luck!
thx
M.

 

[MountZionCollec]

Batch one up top

-A Green haze Thai is the mos vigorous
-Multiple healthy punto Rojas
-mangobiche 3 fairly health 2 not looking good at all.
-Laos: 3 seeds 3 totally different looking seedlings.
-Ghana: growing fairly slow, not very healthy.
-Old Congo: very fat leaves the Congo pointe noire must be very wide leafed
-Mama Thai: all vigorous and healthy, all look identical with very fat leaves.
-Malawi gold: variation all over 2 super mutants, 1 healthy green, 1 healthy turning purple


Batch 3 seeds all got smashed in shipment so will be another 1-2 weeks before i can germinate those

Just ordered 4 original haze, 8 more Mangobiche, 6 more punto rojo.

 

[MountZionCollec]

Nice line up man! You are going to be in heaven, never have to smoke the same thing twice. Wheres the zamaladelica at though? Just kidding, I'm jelous.

If you dont mind, in my opinion growing in the earth is always preferable if you are leaving the plant in place all year. Canabis has insanely strong roots that can chip away at the bed rock year after year giving you more and more room. If you plan on staying on that property for a while your crops will only get better and better. And who knows, maybe one day they will hit the water table and you can cut your watering down to almost nothing. (As long as this drought ends) Not to mention the volcanic bed rock is very nutritious! If I were in your position I would go with raised beds, you could even just cut the bottoms out of pots. Since starting to put plants in the ground I will never go back.

Anyways, excited to see the progress!

I agree with your opinion and I will be cutting a hole in the center bottom of the pots and line with chicken wire so the roots can grow down into the native soil. I will own this property indefinintly and will be taking a long term view on the entire strategy.

And no need to be jealous of my smoke! If ur in the sacremento area or Sierra Nevadas it will be available, now if ur not a California medical patient then continue your jealousy! My whole point for growing these unique flowers is so people can enjoy them. Next year they'll prolly be available for delivery in the sacremento area and potentially available at a dispensary in the Sierra Nevadas, For sure one dispensary in sacremento.