Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe - the last coco i got - the brand coco-peat - is much more coarse than the pelemix coco.

the pelemix went well outdoors since it retained more water. obviously becaoue of its agriculturala use this might be something needed in some cultures.

the cocopeat keeps much less water - unless compacted in the pots. since have tried to keep the coco not too compact i think it is going to be to my benefit this time. still though - later in flowering this might become a problem.. but this far its a bliss.

everything depends on how quickly the water accumulated gets used. i hope i dont have to put in the drippers - since it means i would have to get hold of an secondary pump - since the one i got is more or less enough for 12 drippers, i mean the power is not high enough to suply an even pressure in a very long tube.. how ever im sure within setiing up hydro drip systems... there must be a lot of knowledge im just plainly not aware of..

the cheese TW is starting to flower slowly.. its an early finisher - so in about 7 weeks it should be done

the JD and the LDS are filling up nicelly the fun part id they are still in same pots as last time - but i dont think it is going to become any problem at all. the frequent flushing should take care of that.

i flush much more often now with the heat, even though the salts in the water is less - the water does evaporate/get used quicker - and its better to make sure they get flushed out often.

the 2 blackdomina x boglegum have allready very stinky stems

i think the last of the plants of ecsd x dc is a male too. i checked today and a i have a relativelly larg quantity of all of them. i only planted a handfull..

i think im going to leave that male be i think,, and later select. i have space - so why not

im going to try to get time to take some pics tomorow

peace all

 

[bonecarver_OG]

last flowering gave 826 seeds in 21 crosses. the most important crosses gave around 125-170 seeds each. should give enough for good selection for future moms etc.

it was not fun to count them..

peace!

 

[Teresa]

Damn bone so much unbelievable in what you do my :friends: :wink:

 

[lebebebe06]

Im must say thet you hawe a realy nice grow!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

thanks teresa and lebebebe im just having fun

just realized one of the clones of the ssh x ptk has grown a lot the last days - so i took the earlier predestined for mom ssh x ptk, put it into flower - and swapped it for the big clone

i seriously didnt think any more plants would have time to get big enough for flowering - but like this i got one extra plant - and that means some nice smoke in august

im looking closelly at the X18 x DC - it is almsot getitng ready for cloning, but it does not grow quick enough for it to make this flowering. i rather keep vegging it a while more

im going to flower right thru summer. i dont have any choise - even if the heat is going to reak havoc - im going to try to balance it with the low salt and nute regime - trying to that way make sure they can stand it.

when the water gets too hot - i will have to start buying ice for cooling the rez. with a 2,5 kilo block the temps usually drop about 15 degrees in the big rez expensive maybe - but i have seriously not found any other way...

the "chunky" (my big budded keeper of cascadia) is finally getting going. i wont clone or flower it - its going to grow un-touched untill end of august. same goes with the slowly vegging late pheno of the JD and the mozambique. also the ALIBI and SG are getting the same treatment. im really happy those 2 got revegged (but more or less as happy as for the rest of the revegs )

the clones of cheese/trainwreck are starting to veg quickly and its promising the mom that is flowering is starting to strecth and get pistils - soon enough (8 weeks max from now) its ready to harvest

the JD and LDS revegs are looking very happy right under the light. the plants are short and its atleast 60 cm to the light.. hopefully they wont get damaged by the heat. their clones have not yet rooted - but i bet they will be at the time the moms have started stretching.

the small stinky blackdomina x boggelgum are getting very intersting looking.

the oaxacans are a pair of very nice slender girls. for now it seems they are going to grow like crazy - and hopefully - be of interest

one more ecsd x dc was male. for now just one fem flowering. got a male saved - dont know why - i dont need it - but im keeping onto it for now. i got 27 seeds more of it. they are for the authentic test run later on.

thats it for tonight

peace all

 

[-VT-]

I'm still a big fan of the SSH x PTK In fell for earlier in the show, but this black domina x bogglegum sounds interesting indeed!

How you manage all these projects is mind boggling lol....I run a lot of strains and have a hard time keepin' em all happy!!

See ya next update, my friend

 

[bonecarver_OG]

VT - i pretty much treat them all the same - if some strains need more nutes - i give them maybe one or two waterings with stronger nute mix (+20%) every week. rest of the time i just try to keep nutes on a minimum basis. i dont want to burn the plants.

the temps now are well over 30 most of the day and night for the plants... its a miracle they are looking as good as they do

im having a problem with the too good rooting rate of the clones. at thsi time of the year all clones root without any problems - and quick too most of the time. im ending up with too much clones.

i secured 2 Cheese/Trainwreck for future moms also took out 2 casadias of lanky growth that did not reveg. the late JD is so slow revegging its really anoying. atleast its growing - and hopefully someday after the summer its going to be ready to clone.

also moved tha Alibi, the X18 x DC and the LovePotion to the veg space with more head height.. in there are also the SSHxPTK, the Astrofog, Mozambique, late JD and the Chunky cascadia..

im keeping 2 very stinky males - one is ECSD x OGK and the other is a Blackdomina x Bogglegum. i dont really plan on using the for now, but the smell of them is very promising and later some day i will make a test with them.

the biggest flowering ones are in the middle of the 5th week, and its time to give some flowering booster.

i thinking of using my PK very little this summer. it doesnt seem necesary really at the moment - and the plants actually look a bit healthier from the minimal doses they are getting. still this week im going to rise the PK up.. but less than the recomended dosage.

im going to use bioboost also - it seems to be less agressive to the plants than PK...

 

[-VT-]

VT - i pretty much treat them all the same - if some strains need more nutes - i give them maybe one or two waterings with stronger nute mix (+20%) every week. rest of the time i just try to keep nutes on a minimum basis. i dont want to burn the plants.

Yea what I have done is made nutrient "sections" in my garden to keep up with it all....if I move a plant from the 1/2 tsp section to the 1 tsp section and she gets burned? She gets demoted lol....most of the ones I burn is due to me losing track and handwatering the "heavy jug" to the wrong plants before I got organized lol

im having a problem with the too good rooting rate of the clones. at thsi time of the year all clones root without any problems - and quick too most of the time. im ending up with too much clones.

That's a problem I'd love to have right now

I developed a fear of P/K products from my hydro days at OG after seeing many have issues.....while others swear by it....not sure if I'll ever try it....thanks for sharing that

peace

 

[bonecarver_OG]

intersting with PK huh - there is a lot of chemistry involved i think i will maybe post some thoughts about that in the coco experiment thread

but short i can just say - tapwater has lime, the P binds with the lime and makes an insoluble compund = plaster. basicly a non-soluble form of lime-stone(Cal), once the reaction is over.

this means also most of the time during flowering the Phosphoric ACID is used to lower PH - BUT at the very moment u start with PK - do first a small flush - then make NEW NUTE MIX with NITRIC ACID. also lowering the ec of the water of the nute mix should help (ad distilled water) to get down the levels of Calcium/lime/Cal - and that way minimize the chemical binding of the P to the Cal.

so basicly the more PK u use - the more distilled water in the mix, and also swap to Nitric acid (or other acid that is ok to mix - some people even use vinegar!).

anyway - that is my new flowering nute schedule after some read-up on the matter.

instead for as before rise the nutes and hope the plant gets all it needs (and get lots of saltbuild up ) i now LOWER them - let the Nitric acid give the N used during later flowering - but also now the PK is more accesible - and i dont know if it really is necesary to give the recomended dose. everytime i do it the plants get burnt! but they sure do swell up. i thought about giving 75% dose as a maximum this time.

i seriously want to explore the use of the Bio boost from canna - as this far i think it is more effective at less cost for the plants (its expensive though!). but at the same time i got to admit im giving 1/15 of doses of PK every now and then during flowering. untill the 5thweek - when i put it up a lot

 

[bonecarver_OG]

the clones of Cheese/Trainwreck are getting going really quick!

also finally the x18 x dc has gotten used to coco and is starting to veg quicker

the clones of super g also are vegging nicelly

the clones of JD and LDS are rooting and soon ready for tansplant

gave PK 13-14 11.25ml/10 liters to the biggest flowering plants - they are in week 5 and 4. the most mature are getting orange pistils so soon enough they will get done in about 3-4 weeks

peace!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

the clones of LDS and JD i transplanted yesterday have allready gotten going. its nice since i also noticed the moms that are in the flowering room - also have started the stretch.

today its been a resting day for the flowering plants.

peace all!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

some ssh x ptk are fattening up nicelly they are in the end of the 6th week, and they got almost 3 more to go. should be time for some swelling more

the bio boost is so thick it looks like black syrup. hope its worth it! one 1/4 liter is 15 euro! crazy! but it seems worth it plants look nice

i just cut a few test nugs in day 41! of the ssh x ptk,, and im smashed. i think im going to harvest at around 60 - 63 days this time. im not going to let it go to day 69.

t oaxacan is growing like crazy. its allready touching the roof - so i topped it and i hope it will start spreading out instead. this far its very lanky and slander - its bending all over the place. i hope after this rocket speed stretch - its going to iqual it with bud production - even though a plant normally thats genetics are aimed at fiber productiong dont get too potent. its not smelly either. lets see hehe

the plants from seed that are flowering now are dwarfed under the revegged ones - and i dont really expect them to do much more than just show their potencial - and i will pick a few moms of them to keep for further tests hehhe

its fun the small plants i started of seed just a few weeks ago - finally are starting to get going - its a tester of my crosses and nauts the heat doesnt seem too god for the plants now - but there is no way around it.

the clones of the Cheese/Trainwreck are vegging very quick - who knows - maybe i put them into flowering as soon as i have harvested the first few big plants - and get some more space. untill that i will just let them veg. a few will go to friends. the two quickest i allready got saved for the future.

also the super G clones are going nicelly - and i will select 2 moms from there

the X18/DC is finally vegging with a nice speed - also i put in an other light tube in there with them - so they should veg even more quickly. (this is the X18xDC that i used for seeds (got 160 mixed seeds from it).

the LATE pheno of JD finally is vegging! darn if it wasnt the most tubborn revegger ever - but i could see it was never dying - so it just took a loong time to get going well. but its a relief never the less.

the mozambique reveg mom is looking good too - and its promising looking.

the chunky big budded pheno of cascadia is revegging nicelly and getting a bit bushy looking. maybe im going to be forced to cut it down to make space for the others that are there.

to mee all these plants are giving me so much positive energy at the moment im bursting hehe its going to be a very nice summer indeed!! im allready looking forward to the nice nature walks and beachdays toking on fat doobies! heheh not that many weeks left to vacationes either hehe

keep it positive

peace all!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

quick pics with the compact from the other day

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i realize now every time i give PK i get problems.,,,

i think i have to think of an even smoother program with it.

check out all the yellow leaf - isnt that from nute burn? i get that allways when i start with PK..

 

[bonecarver_OG]

i know i mentioned before that i made 21 crosses and hybrids and some f2's last run.

totaling in over 800 seeds.

how ever - im havent had time to testgrow properly any of them yet (and i cant do it untill this autumn) - although i have a few of 2 hybrids vegging right now (cheese/trainwreck x PTK and mozambique x PTK) -

- modified to aply t rule nr 7


here is the list of crosses and etc:


these are the ones i guarantee the purity (i.e only one male was used). made a few other F2's but of very insignificant numbers, rather just enough to make a next generation - if there is good phenos in there to use. i list them further down


most interesting maybe:

LDS "BIG" F2 - 69 - racos cross in f2 generation, big budded fem pheno and super stinky male.

C pheno (our keeper - ssh/ptk) X PTK - 35 - clonemans ptk and ssh keepers crossed by cloneman, and now crossed to PTK again - however a new male of my selection - un tested for now)

CHEESE/TRAINWRECK x PTK - 125 (kachina x ptk..)

MOZAMBIQUE x PTK - 162 (mozambique from seeds gifted by LMN mixed with the ptk male i used)


the lesser number "controlled male" crosses (still interesting for me for a selection for next generation or for a nice mum and clones):

CASCADIA F2 - 12 (cascadias came from bacchus)

CASCADIA x PTK - 17

CASCADIA x LDS - 10

C PHENO x LDS - 3.. hehe not many huh? hehe)



i made also a whole bunch of seeds using 3 males (CASCADIA and PTK, LDS) and group-polinating single females with all three at a time. also seeds wich could have possible leakage of pollen are listed here:


ASTROFOG "Early" MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 17 (holygongs astrofog)

ASTROFOG "Late" MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 15

PTK x PTK (pos x. LDS, CAS, - about 75% should be PTK pollen minimum) - 60 (NOT guaranteed F2 (but should be fun enough for me atleast) its original Tomhill PTK used in both crosses.)

JD LATE MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 1

JD BIG MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 15

X18/DC x MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 167

CASCADIA "CHUNKY" mix (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 3

CASCADIA "TALL SAT MID POTENCY" mix (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 2

CASCADIA "SHORT very FAT" mix (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 4

CASCADIA "STINKY PHENO" MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 73 (the most stinky and resinous of all cascadias was used completelly for seed production - the hash was great! i hope some of the outcome will be nice keepers for me)

C PHENO x MIX (x LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 14

MOZAMBIQUE (SKINNY) x mix (x lds, ptk, cascadia) - 3

RACOS sat monster (MEAO-THAI x CORINTO) x mix (X LDS, PTK, CASCADIA) - 19


none of the seeds of the deepchunk x PTK came out viable.
still guys - remember im just doing this for fun

 

[Guest]

Well thats a nice bunch to play with for sure

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe lets see

this far i think the mozambique x ptk are more vigorous than the CT x PTK, but there is a long time left to flower them.. and i dont really know how that is going to go during the summer here! hehe

peace !

 

[bonecarver_OG]

a guerilla - somewhere on the Pacific coast of B.C canada.

check this spot -

- edited to aply to rule nr 7 -

nice looking B.C crosses.

 

[XyZ]

Wow Bone that is some hot stuff, great work & overall a very nice thread amigo :wink:
..i will smoke here around more often

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[humble1]

WAit a Minute....

WAit a Minute....

Is it a coco-perlite mix? or a sphagnum/bark/perlite mix?


nice guerilla location. i love those forests!