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Prob'ly Headed to India or Thailand for Surgery

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Paz!!!!!! My memory isn't as pin-point-sharp as it once was, but when I see a name with whom I had many discussions, shared like minds, etc., it floods back!! Yes, I remember you too!! Brought a smile, man!!

I hope you are well yourself, and life is treating you as it ought to.

Naw, the whole, "I want my money back" thing was/is a joke on that very reality; no guarantees, no warranties, and "boogey 'til you puke." (It was a lot easier to say and play with when it was less likely, that whole, "Boogie 'til you puke," bit.)

Yeah, I've taken my body places I hadn't really considered. I'd envisioned lots of different exits, ends, etc., but none of them included lifting my youngest son up on a bet, and hearing a 'pop' come out of my upper back!! That's what ego can do for you when your kid makes a bet with you, right?

The lower back? That was on its way to being cooked years ago.

The whole thing with medi-travel has to do with long ago making a commitment to my family that I wouldn't take their future from them in order to stay here longer; that while the ride had its high-points, I wasn't always truly enthralled with the planet, society, etc., and there were many times that exiting stage left seemed the logical option as the only way to feel peace, except for my commitment to not bring that down on my kids' heads. Thus my commitment years ago to ride 'til I couldn't, but do it at bargain prices.

Back when I was blacklisted, I accepted the fact that ultimately, one day, I'd be worth more as a carcass than as a walking talking body. I told my wife that then.

But we had a third unexpected child in later years, and though I bucked and revolted at the thought of being glued to the planet for years to come, here I am. And when it was all said and done, he's been a serious wonderment to have around. Have never wished since for a different outcome. He's been our Buddha baby.

But I'm still back to trying not to take from the rest of my family's tomorrows. All paths diverge eventually. And they'll need to face what ever it is they face with as much behind them as possible.

I did manage to -very- recently make contact with a professor I had in undergrad many years ago. I was thrilled he was still alive, and apparently fairly healthy.. He's also from India, like naga was, and has agreed to contact family and friends there to make inquiries as well.

And I located a U.S. Board-certified spine surgeon in India through another avenue who has some fairly serious credentials (I'll abstain from getting too specific here re. his med history, but it's outstanding).

Lastly, I'm waiting to see if our old friend from way back replies to a message I sent. If he doesn't, then who knows. Some of his old writing indicates he was thinking about S. America.. Maybe he'll bump into you one day? :)

I haven't picked a solid path yet, as I've always been the type to lay the options out in front of me, and give it ridiculous amounts of thought.

I'm elated that you're still here, still kicking, and being yourself.

Take care, and I'll see you 'round while I'm here, I hope. Don't know how long I'll be around, as my selfish purpose in coming back here was to find naga, or other similar sources, and link into as much related info to my current mission as possible.

Speaking of old circles, you remember riko or mriko? Another source of great info and kind minds.

Again, take care, man.:)
 
M

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https://www.bumrungrad.com/en/institute-spine-surgery-bangkok-thailand
I live thailand ive been to this hospital they probably the best .

As for after care ,the hospital website has hotels/rooms near listed.A

Thanks Andyo. I found that one and another in Thailand while on-line looking. I then went and did a search for both Thailand and India for JCI-accredited clinics/hospitals. JCI is the International arm of the Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Hospital Organizations in the U.S.

Still thinking about it, and could change my mind, but for money's sake, other factors, etc., I'm leaning toward India at the moment, even though their visa situation is a bit more up-tight.

Thanks again.
 

Stoner4Life

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I'm leaning toward India at the moment, even though their visa situation is a bit more up-tight.

lie to them, tell them you're a republican ceo :nono: looking to outsource 40,000 jobs from the usa, they'll even pay for your trip.......
 
M

moose eater

lie to them, tell them you're a republican ceo :nono: looking to outsource 40,000 jobs from the usa, they'll even pay for your trip.......

Heck, if I do that anywhere near Bhopal, it might get me killed earlier than not!!

They're still trying to deal with that whole Union Carbide explosion, madness and mayhem, and contamination of the river!

But seriously, it's not that the visas in India are a real problem, as much as they require you pay for even the first visitors visa, whereas Thailand gives folks from the U.S. the first 30-day stay for free.

India even has specific visas for medical travel, though I imagine they mix and match.

Sadly, the whole 'scalpers organizing your medical trip for a cut of the end billing' has caught on over there too. I guess they saw folks on this side of the ocean doing it for large sums of unnecessary cost/profit, and figured, "Why not us too?"
 

sprinkl

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I'd consider Malaysia, and I don't mean to sound snooty, but I have a philosophical commitment to myself not to shed any cash that way for their execution of drug prisoners, including past death sentences that were sometimes commuted, for tourists who fell prey to Aussie/Malaysian gangs using tourist luggage as transport, and the tourists in question believably weren't even aware what had occurred to their checked bags once the bags left their control.

For similar reasons, I have some degree of heartburn for considering Thailand, but.....

Reasons enough not to spend money in any country worldwide if you want to take that path of thinking... Not to mention what's true and what isn't if your source is MSM, many countries/dictatorships have been slandered to get the public's OK to rush in with an army and take over.
 
M

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Reasons enough not to spend money in any country worldwide if you want to take that path of thinking... Not to mention what's true and what isn't if your source is MSM, many countries/dictatorships have been slandered to get the public's OK to rush in with an army and take over.

I wasn't aware of any army rushing into Malaysia, and the stories of executions in Malaysia for even hashish possession over 'X' weight are old enough and plentiful enough that I figured I didn't need to fact check it.

But I guess you're right. I could fact-check it and see what happens.


http://goseasia.about.com/od/travelplanning/a/seasia_drugs.htm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barlow_and_Chambers_execution

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4536.html

http://www.encod.org/info/DEATH-PENALTY-FOR-MARIJUANA-IN.html

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2009/12/death_penalty_for_marijuana_in_malaysia.php

Not exactly MSM, but this came up during a mid-nite trip to the low-fat yogurt container. Of course, at the top of the list was Saudi Arabia, but I hadn't planned to get anything done there, either.

Admittedly, there are plenty of countries where the raiding party, whether dressed as ninjas, or in prim and proper uniforms, or what ever, have acted as judge, jury and executioner. But I was more leaning toward the formal process of killing persons for a little bit of dope, to include marijuana and hashish.

If there's some source of other information that clears those countries I've named that have reportedly formally invoked the death penalty for relatively small amounts of cannabis or related products, I'd be open to seeing or hearing it.

I've had close friends hang out in places like Bali, reporting back on the local ganja markets there; "up-tight," "not very good quality," & "not worth the potential trouble."
 

bombadil.360

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hello again moose! :)

yes, I remember mriko, he had some great posts on the cannabis scene in places like Pakistan and India, how could I forget him? I've not seen a post from him in ages though, and the last posts I did read from him, it appeared as if he was frustrated by the ways of the world, I do hope he is better and more level headed today though, wherever he may be.

If Naga ended up in South America, I surely hope he did not go to either Venezuela, Argentina or Bolivia! these specific three countries are plagued by the worst governments ever in the history of South America, specially true for Venezuela. I left South America about five years ago though, and forgot my password to my old account, so if he tried to contact me if he made it there, I would not know. I sure hope he stayed in India, unless he had an amazing unmissable opportunity in S.A of course.

hope to hear you have found the ideal place to fix your back soon!

much peace and good health to you and yours!
 
M

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Thanks Paz! You too!!

Yes, the part of the world where mriko walked could easily lead most persons to find frustration as an end result, if they were bright and thoughtful persons. mriko was that. To see abject poverty, and live with the reality of drones placing others not involved into the fracus at hand, outside any control of their own, the clashes within rural Pakistan, and more, could cause a thoughtful person to grow more and more bitter.

Bitterness can lead to hate, whether turned inward, or expressed outward; the ending is not where we ought to go.

All of these persons in that global group of 'friends' came together in the topic of cannabis, but discussed so much more over time; love, gardening, life, gardening, dogs, gardening, family, gardening... vehicles, fishing, gardening, music... :biggrin:.

I asked in a PM the other day about Piece-of-My-Heart. I recall her getting banned back then some time, going to another site, etc. I've thought about her on an off through the years. And some other folks too..

Again, take care.
 
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sprinkl

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Admittedly, there are plenty of countries where the raiding party, whether dressed as ninjas, or in prim and proper uniforms, or what ever, have acted as judge, jury and executioner. But I was more leaning toward the formal process of killing persons for a little bit of dope, to include marijuana and hashish.

Nothing is what it seems... The most unscrupulous governance happens right here in the West. These bananarepublic dictatorships are a very direct result of and very profitable to the west. And who had the brilliant idea to marginalize and jail dope users in the first place? If you look at the prison system in the USA, life after prison, and the effect on society, death might even be a more humane solution.

And even so, does that mean I do not approve of the USA? A country is much more than its government, I bet most Americans don't approve of their government, and that goes for most if not all countries. We are being scammed by lying 2-faced politicians, who probably most of the time can't help it themselves, worldwide.

People can be brainwashed so easily... Look at the nazi's in WW2, convinced jews were of a lesser race and deserved to die horrible deaths. Those were normal people like you and me someday... We learned in school about the terrible efficient results of Hitler's propaganda. But what's happening now in the world? Most people don't even realize we're being spoonfed quite similar propaganda.
 
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Nothing is what it seems... The most unscrupulous governance happens right here in the West. These bananarepublic dictatorships are a very direct result of and very profitable to the west. And who had the brilliant idea to marginalize and jail dope users in the first place? If you look at the prison system in the USA, life after prison, and the effect on society, death might even be a more humane solution.

And even so, does that mean I do not approve of the USA? A country is much more than its government, I bet most Americans don't approve of their government, and that goes for most if not all countries. We are being scammed by lying 2-faced politicians, who probably most of the time can't help it themselves, worldwide.

People can be brainwashed so easily... Look at the nazi's in WW2, convinced jews were of a lesser race and deserved to die horrible deaths. Those were normal people like you and me someday... We learned in school about the terrible efficient results of Hitler's propaganda. But what's happening now in the world? Most people don't even realize we're being spoonfed quite similar propaganda.

No disagreement with your synopsis or history; the pressuring of India and Nepal to adopt UN standards re. the early phases of Nixon's drug war were synonymous with the U.S.A. and UK and their combined efforts to use an international body to whip the world into submission.

I've been aware of our U.S. history and its hand in South and Central America, 'socialist' uprisings there, slave wages in Honduras for tariff-free exportation of bananas, the relationship between the CIA/State Dept./USAID and various administrations (supposedly both left and right), with dictatorial governments around the world, whether Samosa, Baby Doc, the Shaw, early decades of CIA relationship with Saddam, and on and on.. The larger government here likes pro-corporatist regimes regardless of how sociopathic and treacherous they may be, much like many punks of questionable fortitude these days like to stroll down the street with a poorly-bred pit-bull wearing a spiked collar, that's been abused and in-bred to the point of instability and violence.

Then when the People in what ever country who have watched 'us' pour arms and money into said dictator's pocket for the benefit of Coca Cola, ITT, Chevron, British Petroleum, et al, finally get ready to light the barricades, and get all Bolshevik, proverbial or otherwise, and something tragic happens in our bubble on this side of the Atlantic/Pacific, the naïve soap opera watchers ask, "Why would they do that to us?" followed by some stooge of a corporate cowboy puppet with an Ivy League background, like GW (or BO) saying something as insanely idiotic and stupid as "They hate us for our freedom," never minding that we house more inmates per capita than any other country in the world in the U.S., and finance a military with more money than the next 14 nations combined, notwithstanding that much of that involves politically convenient/inflated contracts that include kick-backs, and have us, as tax-payers, buying $800 toilet seats for C-137s, $600 claw hammers, and $135 bolts for an F-16.

I'm old enough, been around enough, organized enough political action, and went to Occupy SPECIFICALLY because MONEY coated in Teflon -is- THE fucking battleground, now that the whole world, including the country I was born and raised in, and ran somewhat free in as a youngster, has gone so fucking mercenary that it barely allows conscientious people to eat breakfast without vomiting.

I've earned my stripes, though am ashamed to admit that it was fear of an arrest record interfering with international travel that led me to confront my own cowardice made of opportunism and self-interest at OWS.

But when it comes to countries, 'puppetized' or not, who parade prisoners on widow's walks (appropriately named) outside a prison's towers, applauding, like some medieval enshrining of those about to be burned, hanged or be-headed, I draw my own line. Every bit as much as I draw a line when one little kid on the playground succumbs to the command by the class bully that the one little kid beat up the littler kid, or face physical reprisal himself.

Our job, in my sometimes humble, sometimes frightened opinion, trying to be true to myself and beliefs, is to do what we know needs to be done, regardless of fear, etc. Regardless of who told us to do what. If it's wrong and we do it, it's on us. Regardless of stimuli.

That's my treatise. I know enough of history, and have taken part in making some. I acknowledge those times I betrayed myself and those I love, and know the ills of pride, too. Worn ashen sack cloth, and worn some fine silk shirts. Lots of blue jeans I between

I figure each group in each location owes it to -themselves-, first, and the world secondly, to straighten out what is in THEIR bubble. Their atmosphere. And I have worked at that in more ways than I'll elaborate here.

But I DON'T patronize places that parade persons to be hanged or be-headed for some questionable amount of hash or ganja. Regardless of who props them up.

And in the cases of those regimes, I look forward to THEIR people taking them down and giving them the instant karma they deserve, just as I view it as MY job to discipline my kids, BEFORE they become a problem for the neighbors.

Now you know a -little- bit more about me, but there's way more. I'll keep it short here now, though. I've used up more than my share of bandwidth here.

Take care.:tiphat:
 

Tudo

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I know that I was taken to the er when I was 33 with a possible heart attack. The bill was over 5 grand but thankfully no heart attack although my cardiologist NOW will disagree with that.

I called my older bro then and he asked me what kind of health insurance do I have and I told him " I can't afford it" to which he replied "you can't afford NOT to"

No truer words were spoken.
 
M

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I know that I was taken to the er when I was 33 with a possible heart attack. The bill was over 5 grand but thankfully no heart attack although my cardiologist NOW will disagree with that.

I called my older bro then and he asked me what kind of health insurance do I have and I told him " I can't afford it" to which he replied "you can't afford NOT to"

No truer words were spoken.


I understand the sentiment, Tudo, but while my wife is covered by her office insurance for medical, to purchase insurance for my youngest son and I would cost over $1,300.00/month, just for the two of us, and it's no where near the Cadillac insurance we had 20-30 years ago with good jobs; the insurance companies don't even typically offer the caliber of insurance we had back then, and then we were doubly covered.

As stated earlier, we're ineligible for the ACA/ObamaCare.. And if you look at ObamaCare (and I have, in-depth), it's not even good insurance. The 'silver' plan is shoddy at best, the 'bronze plan' reminds me of something scammers would've sold years ago, and I suspect the 'gold plan' clearly refers to 'gold plated,'..... maybe.

Even if we were eligible for the ACA, the cost over-runs are expected to result in significant increases not only in the amounts the gov. subsidizes, but the required amounts the recipients pay.

Health care (and health insurance, in a chicken and egg sort of reciprocation), in the U.S., has sky-rocketed at an average of a 12% increase per year. it's a cannibalistic system, clearly. As a stock market item, it's a winner, through and through, but finding some semblance of the Hippocratic oath within this behemoth of a system is difficult at times.

No, what I'm doing now is exactly what I promised my family I would do if a treatable crisis occurred (a crisis that permitted travel to occur, and didn't require treatment in a matter of seconds).

They know right off the bat that I'm a DNR guy, no feeding tube if in a vegetative state, and no elaborate surgeries or procedures unless they can fly me to a place that works for reasonable jing, and values health care itself, as evidenced by not taking away your ability to live decently after the fact, either financially or physically.

I've told folks for years now, even with mediocre insurance in this country (the US), our health care system frequently leaves a person with two choices; leaving their estate to their (spouse/children/other family), or leaving it to a Doc you may not know or even like much.

I know where I intend to leave my kibble, home, life insurance and limited cash when they plant me. And it's not to the Doc.
He's already living quite well, from what I've seen. :)
 

bombadil.360

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it's such a disgrace what Obama has done to the U.S... not even Bush Jr. was so good at intentionally fucking the people over. I coined him "the gringo Chavez" lol... sweet talks you and then rams it up the ass when you are not looking.

just wait until Hillary wins though, and Obama will look good...

I seriously don't know where and when exactly the U.S went so wrong, but what was once a great country, has turned into a circus...

it may be that when the country was doing very good, a generation that received the country in relatively great shape, took it for granted and just played 'rich boy I do what I want' when they had to lead; but as you all know, boys that never had to work and ignore the value of hard earned coin, have no ability to lead and can only play circus.

who knows really...

peace
 
M

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I've got some of my own opinions on the variety of 'wrong turns' we took, Paz, (bet you'd have never guessed that, right?:biggrin:) and I have to tell you it's nice of you coming back 'round. Old home week of sorts.

I think the post depression crowd wanted their kids to never go without, but also tried to teach the work ethic, and responsibility. The next generation, the baby-boomers still wanted it better for their kids, learned to disregard some of the pabulum, didn't focus as much on earned status and integrity as their immediate predecessors did, but by then the programming by way of mass communications had already begun a revolution, and we entered the more gullible years hard-core that were evidenced earlier by Orson Wells' 'War of the Worlds,' and the number of persons who took it as serious, giving credibility to the concept of, "If it's on the air/tube, it must be real, right?"

Mas media programming was born..

Then Kennedy went up against the Military Industrial Complex, after undecidedly playing footsie with them for a while. Like Teddy Roosevelt, identifying that heavy corporate power in a democratic-functioning world stood the chances of tilting the scales to the point of no return.

Teddy Roosevelt made a speech (I want to say it was about 1910 or so, but I could be wrong) entitled, 'The New Nationalism.' Anyone who has witnessed the screwing the middle class has received, often without their immediate knowledge, or who thought the concepts raised at OWS were new, strange and foreign communist plots, needs to read those words. Teddy was no red-arm-band wearing kinda' guy, but he sure had some common sense.

We've entered a world or era that Orwell could only kick himself about, asking himself how '1984' could be so close, yet fall so short. Up is down, in is out, black is white, red is green, yadda yadda yadda. The populist Pres BO took more money in 2008 from Wall St. contributors than any other candidate. Populist? So Jamie Dimond and Co. screwed Ma and Pa Amerika out of their 401k's playing fast and loose, every major bank in Manhattan got nailed either selling fraudulent shorts on a repeat/serial basis, or massaged the books to make themselves look more solvent than they were, or both. Most engaged in illegal robo-signing of foreclosures, often without proper transfer of liens to the new holders, and taking homes in some cases from folks who owed NOTHING, in extreme cases.

The mainstream media, now consisting of roughly 9 primary sources, owned by both faux left and faux right factions and mostly corporate entities, alleges the OWS folks are lazy and don't want to work, but a few years later, Dimond signs a voluntary settlement for over $17 Billion (that's BILLION, with a 'B'!!) AFTER the criminal statute of limitations has expired, which is the customary route those cases take... What with the SEC typically consisting of the banksters' former CEOs, and a revolving door between the two.

To my knowledge, not a one of them has gone to prison yet for draining the country's savings and retirements dry like the silk-suit-wearing carpet-baggers they are, and BO claims that Jamie Dimond is some sort of financial genius and a personal friend, working hand-in-hand together to sink various financial reforms even lately.

And the mo fo's claim we're morally depraved for sparking a reefer...

Ever get the feeling someone spiked the water with something sub-standard to what you might've ingested 40-50 years ago, and this is all one bad hallucination??

I've met some Gen Y folks who are aware, see other angles in this, etc., and there's some old timers still out there. But many persons are still more pissed off at their television programming being interrupted without warning, losing out on their favorite sit-com, than they are about the corporations and oligarchs who now buy elections, and just stole their kids' futures right out from under their asses, with almost nobody even yelling, "RAPE!!"

When you have federal elections where the money spent on a single seat is in the millions of dollars, easily, not to even mention what gets spent on the Presidential race, you can bet your genitals that kind of money doesn't flow for nothing, with no favors owed.

It's B-grade theatre, where even John Kerry, Mr. Dove himself, is heavily invested in the war machine, sensing little conflict of interest in doing the job he does while holding such stocks.

Hillary is named no less than 400 times in the WikiLeaks docs, and turned a blind eye to an illegal Russian arms shipment to Africa, in the name of preserving some sort of diplomatic nonsense.

And look what they did to a hero of mine, one Ray McGovern, when he showed up at one of Hillary's presentations on China's human rights record.. Ray being a 20-year CIA analyst and Army vet before that, now heavily affiliated with Veterans for Peace, in his 70s now. They've treated him that way more than a few times.

It's a brave new world, Paz, and my kids will one day be without any guidance or insight from those of us who preceded them. I worry for them.

When the real criminals run the joint, any one with heart, soul, and conscience needs a new zip code at the minimum. Jay walking is prosecutable, selling loose cigarettes can get you killed by the cops, but draining the country is a 'mistake.'

And the trickle down can be seen in what came of the ACA, where single-payer and similar programs never touched the table even a little bit. Wall St. and corporate debts are a bitch, Paz.

Is it any wonder Jerry Ruben ended up on Wall St.?

Keep the flame burning:huggg:.
 
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bombadil.360

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moose, thanks for your reply, interesting view about the post-depression generation, baby boomers and the rest. indeed, something was lost in that time-line.

we've lost so many things, from taking pride in doing well whatever is it you do, up to personal accountability... it seems it is always someone else fault for our short-comings and never our own.

even someone who needs to do an easy job, he won't do it properly because "I'm not getting paid millions to do it, so fuck it"...

also, the idea that you need to sacrifice whatever is it you do in life to evade the issue of how our world is being badly run in order to make it better is just a horrible fate to contemplate, why should anyone have to sacrifice their lives to battle all the corrupt people making the world such a shit-hole? only when I consider this do I understand the youngsters from Y Generation and disdain them a little bit less :D

imo, with the internet and the amount of books' availability at affordable prices in today's world, if the mass media has managed to screw with your world-view, well, you are a retard consumed in keeping yourself willfully ignorant, no excuses. when I run into these type of people, I keep on running and never look back.

then you have the ones that think they know it all and have it all figured out because they go check infowars or rt news lol... different face, same coin.

indeed, Orwell did not nail it as good as Huxley did!

much peace and good health bro!
 
M

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There's also information over-load these days, Paz. Folks have access to so much information, 'X' percentage of it pure bullshit, and eventually go back to 'I Love Lucy' or 'Sleepy Hollow.'

I taught my daughter this last year, with her being almost 22, that apologies don't have 'buts' attached to them. They come from the heart as a humble admission of 'This is what I did, and I was wrong,' leaving the other's crimes or offenses on their shoulders and heart; we're responsible for our own offenses, not the other person's.

Hard to live up to what we preach sometimes, though. :)

She called today from her nurse's training, and told me she'd completed the current exit interview. Her primary instructor told her that she rarely takes on younger students, as they're often not as responsible. Then I'm told she stated, "Tell your parents they did a good job."

I know her better than her instructor does, and know where she has need to grow yet, just as I know where I have need to grow still, but I was proud.

I used to struggle with my older son's lack of applying himself, acknowledging to him that part of what I resented in him was his likeness to me in so many ways. A mind-fucker for a young man who thinks he's honoring his father to be like him, to be told there's a 'problem in the network,' that I haven't always been what I could've been, despite what I did achieve, and others nearest me paid for that.

Years earlier I would struggle with my judgment of him, and tell myself, perhaps if all I do is raise a thoughtful, conscientious and kind person, then I've done well. That argument, really based in my own conflict with my own propensities, never ended. I still go 'round and 'round with myself about many different expectations in life; for myself and others.

In many ways his head is further up his ass than many folks I know, but he's known as a kind and thoughtful guy...

"and so it goes..."

You take care, Paz. Keep the sun on your face, and a warm wind at your back, man.:)
 
M

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MRIs in-hand as of a while ago, and various opinions. Sorting out 'takers' in India, some of whom, despite skills, are clearly into cutting for money. Been feeling a lot like a piece of bloody hamburger on a hook, trolled through a mud puddle over-filled with piranha in that regard..

There's Docs in all places who love to cut, looking for opportunities to do so; they get paid well by their own local standards, and believe they can do the best job for what they do. Sometimes true, and sometimes not.

Trying to locate and lock in the true Rembrandts among them, and marry that to those who only want to cut what is necessary.. While trying to get local rates, skip the expensive roller-coaster ride many would like to deliver on the belief that all Americans are wealthy, etc.

Medical attendant arranged for, and a back-up attendant is possible in case of need.

Worst fear? Not the fear of dying, but rather the fear of waking up paralyzed from the neck down, eating through a tube, subjecting family to an endurance run that would tax them until I passed, and a life-time of vegetative state that would ultimately require me to contract with someone to perform some effective form of euthanasia.

I've recently received gifts and offers that have been more than a bit humbling. Sometimes we spend a lot of life not knowing who we matter to, or don't matter to. Finding those things out in moments of high emotion are sometimes cause for a serious pause.

Otherwise, we're sorting through as much info and logistics as possible in as little time as possible, and the clock is ticking. But we're not heading into this thing blind. We've learned a lot in this. And as with all things, the best info has often come (though not always) from our own endeavors. And computers are way cheaper than Docs when the costs are all added up.
 

bombadil.360

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Hola Moose!

Let me ask you, if by any chance do you have any Jewish in you? Any one of your 4 grandparents? If so or more, have you looked at Israel as an option? You may be eligible for medical assistance and even citizenship if so... Just putting it out there for probability's sake.

Hope you finally get over this chapter in your life soon so you can get on to other things during this little time we got here.

Much peace and good health and strength to you and yours!
 
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