mark6699331
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I've gone down to 3-5ml a gallon and had good results too as a preventitave when i bring new plants into the room.
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Powdery Mildew Rx for flowering plants?
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How well does that work?
Is it supposed to be a systemic solution? Doesn't look like it, looks like it is designed to just keep them at bay as long as you're keeping a coat of it on them, but will you continue to coat your plants in late flower, keeping in mind that even a week can destroy a crop?
I have a feeling that a lot of these organic / OMRI-listed / blah blah "solutions" (temporary and only for external fruiting bodies, as long as you keep spraying) are far more harmful than the proven Zone + Penetrator and possibly the potassium bicarbonate product(s) like GreenCure (just no real feedback on it yet, based on actual indoor trials on MJ plants).
Is it supposed to be a systemic solution? Doesn't look like it, looks like it is designed to just keep them at bay as long as you're keeping a coat of it on them, but will you continue to coat your plants in late flower, keeping in mind that even a week can destroy a crop?
I have a feeling that a lot of these organic / OMRI-listed / blah blah "solutions" (temporary and only for external fruiting bodies, as long as you keep spraying) are far more harmful than the proven Zone + Penetrator and possibly the potassium bicarbonate product(s) like GreenCure (just no real feedback on it yet, based on actual indoor trials on MJ plants).
julsbagell
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that stuff works well smells like fcking shit def not for flowering go with zone+penetrator in bloom or greencure.
mark6699331
Active member
yeah that stuff is just good if you want to coat your plants in oil- it just smothers the pm doesn't kill it. And then HARSH smoke. Bad medicine.Brings a new meaning to "garlic" bud.
I don't know why you all don't try the zone- IT WORKS!
I don't know why you all don't try the zone- IT WORKS!
George W Kush
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Free 3.25 tsp sample of GreenCure ($1.99 S&H)
Out of stock at the time of posting this, though.
As a comparison, Zone + Penetrator is a roughly $35-$40 combo for 1L set. Problem is the high application rates (60mL/L) of Penetrator. GreenCure is ~$25 shipped.
Zone + Penetrator seemed to work well for me, though.
Out of stock at the time of posting this, though.
As a comparison, Zone + Penetrator is a roughly $35-$40 combo for 1L set. Problem is the high application rates (60mL/L) of Penetrator. GreenCure is ~$25 shipped.
Zone + Penetrator seemed to work well for me, though.
Mark... here is my problem...
I have PM... LOL Sounds sick.
But all plaants are outdoors.
The SWT#3 is almost ready for harvest.... but the Grape Punch needs another 3-4 weeks. (easy)
I all between jobs and need to be fiscal. I am on the way to the store to pick up ZONE. But my question is:
If all penetrator is, is a wetting agent, would I be okay using a drop of dish detergent?
I dont know if I can swing the cost for both right now. Got bills, ya know.
All 4 plants are outdoors so dipping is out.
But when I have indoor plants... I flower in 5 gallon buckets and most my plants grow to 4-5 feet. Dipping is not ideal. so spraying and spraying HEAVY until drenched regular is the way to go?
Thanks for the pointers... I was going to try h2o2 and the mik thing... but sounds like ONE is the way to go. I am harvesting the SWT#3 in a week or two, and the Grape Punch not far there after. (2-3 weeks)
So I need to get rid of the PM so it doesnt hurt my GP, and makes my SWT#3 smokable.
I have PM... LOL Sounds sick.
But all plaants are outdoors.
The SWT#3 is almost ready for harvest.... but the Grape Punch needs another 3-4 weeks. (easy)
I all between jobs and need to be fiscal. I am on the way to the store to pick up ZONE. But my question is:
If all penetrator is, is a wetting agent, would I be okay using a drop of dish detergent?
I dont know if I can swing the cost for both right now. Got bills, ya know.
All 4 plants are outdoors so dipping is out.
But when I have indoor plants... I flower in 5 gallon buckets and most my plants grow to 4-5 feet. Dipping is not ideal. so spraying and spraying HEAVY until drenched regular is the way to go?
Thanks for the pointers... I was going to try h2o2 and the mik thing... but sounds like ONE is the way to go. I am harvesting the SWT#3 in a week or two, and the Grape Punch not far there after. (2-3 weeks)
So I need to get rid of the PM so it doesnt hurt my GP, and makes my SWT#3 smokable.
George W Kush
Member
The way I understand it, Penetrator is not a wetting agent.
xen_dau said:
ok ok,,,let me straightn you out>>>
if you got plants near harvest,,,theres not much you can do without tainting your smoke. in your place,,, i would bite the bulllet and make hash,, cant smoke PM buds>>>DONT smoke PM buds,,,that is mold going right to yer lungs! also---no point spraying her down trying to kill PM if the area is still high RH,,, first thing most people dont realize about PM is you have to have your conditions ideal,,otherwise PM will not leave. cant control shit outdoors,, and i doubt that the RH has dropped to a level OD where it would be possible to fight the PM anyhow... i would focus on your indoor crop,, and make sure you dont bring spores inna yer grow room. i would suggest gettting the Z+P (((have to get em both,,,dont cheap out here))) and douche all your indoor plants,, JUST TO MAKE SURE you havent already brought spores into the room....
if you need any more info///advice feeel free to PM me. --BhT
George W Kush said:
i had a huge room of mothers,,,and enviorment was perfect. i ended up leaving for a week,,, and force from the vaccum combined with strong outside
wind,,sucked the windo fan+++filter out of the window and into the room. pulling in tons of RH,,,effeictly coating the room with PM (((shes vere previlant around my area)))
cost me $300 to get PM under control. 1gal each of Z+P,,, hit ever 3 days. and on every other day,,, when the room was compelety dry,,, id sulpher bomb the entire room. sulpher ++ zone&&& penetrators will kick PMs azz. Z+P did well on its owned,,,but couped wit a sulpher burner,,, shit was gone in less than 2 weeks.
hope thie helps..--BhT
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BiG H3rB Tr3E said:
Well Humidty has dropped like crazy around here.
Im not NOT smoking my crop.... stoopid as it may sound, so far only fan leaves have been affected, and it has shown up in the past 3 weeks.
I cannot afford to NOT harvest and keep my buds. My Grape Punch is still some time away from harvest.
I need to stop it before it gets too bad and save my crop.
My indoor grow has not even been put together yet, so any clones I take will be treated. I am digging up 2 and trying to revegg them (to make mums), so they need to be treat as well.
well you can do what you like,,, in tha end its YOUR deicions,,,not mine..
but just know that even though you dont think its on the buds ,,, it is
if it is on the leafs,,,it has been there for a while (2-3wks)which means it will be on your bud as well. if you take a closer look at the bud im sure youll find many trichome looking stalks,,,and you will know it is PM stalks because they will not have the glands or heads on top>>they are very similar looking and easy to mistake.
some strains are resistant to mold,,, many are not. i just know that smoking it is very unhealthy. when i was younger and unknowing i tried to smoke some PM tainted herb,,,and it has bad taste to it,, and after smoking it for a few days your lungs will have this itchy pain to them. and takes a few days of not smoking to clear up. i love herb,,,but i am not trying to worstend my lungs by any extent because of a crop gone wrong. hopefully you will understand the same,, as we only have one life to live.
i already said,, but you cannot treat plants so close to harvest with pm remedies. many of them are very acidic or poisionus,,,and treating flowers would only absorb those poisions and acids,, causing more trouble. i was in your case not long ago and lost my entire outdoor crop to pm and mold. the best thing to do is freeze it and make bubble hash. that way your not directly smoking the mold. if you ask other knowledge able growers,,, they will tell you the same. sory to hear for your torubles braddah,,,keep it ez.--BhT
but just know that even though you dont think its on the buds ,,, it is
if it is on the leafs,,,it has been there for a while (2-3wks)which means it will be on your bud as well. if you take a closer look at the bud im sure youll find many trichome looking stalks,,,and you will know it is PM stalks because they will not have the glands or heads on top>>they are very similar looking and easy to mistake.
some strains are resistant to mold,,, many are not. i just know that smoking it is very unhealthy. when i was younger and unknowing i tried to smoke some PM tainted herb,,,and it has bad taste to it,, and after smoking it for a few days your lungs will have this itchy pain to them. and takes a few days of not smoking to clear up. i love herb,,,but i am not trying to worstend my lungs by any extent because of a crop gone wrong. hopefully you will understand the same,, as we only have one life to live.
i already said,, but you cannot treat plants so close to harvest with pm remedies. many of them are very acidic or poisionus,,,and treating flowers would only absorb those poisions and acids,, causing more trouble. i was in your case not long ago and lost my entire outdoor crop to pm and mold. the best thing to do is freeze it and make bubble hash. that way your not directly smoking the mold. if you ask other knowledge able growers,,, they will tell you the same. sory to hear for your torubles braddah,,,keep it ez.--BhT
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BiG H3rB Tr3E said:
Hmmmmmm....
mark6699331 said:
I dunno... The GP has very little if any.... And are also 3-4 weeks away from finishing. I will treat these. One of the SWT#3 is not that bad, but one is pretty bad. So its a toss up. I might risk it, but I cant do bubblehash now... no bubblebags.
Best I could do is butta.
xen_dau said:Hmmmmmm....
I dunno... The GP has very little if any.... And are also 3-4 weeks away from finishing. I will treat these. One of the SWT#3 is not that bad, but one is pretty bad. So its a toss up. I might risk it, but I cant do bubblehash now... no bubblebags.
Best I could do is butta.
dont believe me??? go buy zone and penetrator,,, no way you can tell me youd WANT to dip your buds in that shit
looks and smells like antifreeeze.....
ive only read this last page, so forgive me if i am posting what most already know or have gone over in this thread.
--DONT smoke buds with pm
--if its on leaves, and has been for more then a day-its in the buds. period.
--the only effective way i found to get rid of that shit in flowering is burning sulfor. and once i finally broke down and bought the burner, i couldnt believe i had wasted so much time and energy and money on any other method.
--i wouldnt even bubble the pm buds to be truthful, i would iso them. from what i understand, its the only way to really kill the pm on the buds at that stage.
--good luck to all who are ever exposed to this creepy shit......sub
--DONT smoke buds with pm
--if its on leaves, and has been for more then a day-its in the buds. period.
--the only effective way i found to get rid of that shit in flowering is burning sulfor. and once i finally broke down and bought the burner, i couldnt believe i had wasted so much time and energy and money on any other method.
--i wouldnt even bubble the pm buds to be truthful, i would iso them. from what i understand, its the only way to really kill the pm on the buds at that stage.
--good luck to all who are ever exposed to this creepy shit......sub
Has anybody tried to use 2 tsp. of baking soda (Sodium bicarbonate) dissolved into 32 fl.oz. of water late into flowering??? Could even use a tsp or two of soap as a spreader sticker earlier in flowering with the baking soda (Sodium bicarbonate) as a PM killer and preventer??? Maybe....
AndreNicky
Member
subrob said:
I got acouple spots of Pm late in flower on acouple lower fanleafs/budleaves and 98% of the bud i harvested had no PM. If its only effecting acouple spots and u can rip those leaves off u should be fine.
dutchcrunch
Member
Do you use the Zone/penetrator combo w/ lights on like suggested? I am in day 27 of flower w/ some huge buds and I do not want to burn the pistils. So lights on or off??
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