Pot is Legal in California!

[bombadil.360]

Despite taxes, CO prices have fallen. In 2017 it will become very obvious in CO how much prices have fallen.

CA will need 1-2 outdoor grow season to saturate the demand in CA and prices will fall too.

 

[bombadil.360]

Well......I guess that it's good news for many, and bad news for some.

Hopefully the rest of the world will take note, and move themselves towards legalization, in whatever guise it comes...

But I won't be really happy about it, until growers of cannabis have the same freedoms as growers of tomatoes.....and we can all grow as much as we want or need, so long as it does not detrimentally affect the environment, or other people's freedoms.

Back in 2002, in my home town in the Venezuelan Andes, a buddy worked at a local primary school, they were forced to re-locate because the plots next to the schools were being used to grow a specific type of potatos that caught many fungi and needed constant spraying, the kids were getting sick. The potatos were for a bagged potato chip big name brand (lay's).

Just an example of how a legal crop can fuck with other people's right.

Peace!

 

[igrowone]

Hey hey hey
It's a beautiful day and I can't stop myself from smiling ...

 

[Snook]

i wish i could, but Trump winning the White House means that Christie might get his wish to be atty general, & crack down on weed- legal states federally...

Hoeleeship! I never gave Christie a thought. Yeah, hesa dik with the weed but to shit on over half the nations will would not be a good idea. They have much bigger fish to fry! Benghazi still eats at my ass. I think DT will be more liberal with the Cannabis laws than establishment Republicans, I refrain from calling them conservatives...


EDIT: another thought is Ben Carson for Surgeon General.. one would think he would lean the 'make it available' direction.

 

[Loc Dog]

Hoeleeship! I never gave Christie a thought. Yeah, hesa dik with the weed but to shit on over half the nations will would not be a good idea. They have much bigger fish to fry! Benghazi still eats at my ass. I think DT will be more liberal with the Cannabis laws than establishment Republicans, I refrain from calling them conservatives...


EDIT: another thought is Ben Carson for Surgeon General.. one would think he would lean the 'make it available' direction.

Trump is open on weed. Christie is douchebag, and Trump has always treated him like a joke. NJ last governor passed MMJ on way out, and Christie perverted it so 120 people in state were eligible. New Jersey has many pharmaceutical companies whose poison he pushed.

I am not a Trump fan, but he knows Christie is an ass licker.

 

[Payaso]

Let's keep it on track to the topic here... pot legalization in Cali... not the general election politics...

 

[Mrs.Babba]

Congratulations to California, it's about time!

Giggle you will have to make a trip out here and I'll give you the grand tour!!

 

[St. Phatty]

Fantastic news California! This is the beginning of world wide freedom for cannabis.

But it's bad news for cash croppers, though there will be a short term uplift in prices due to the increased demand, but within 12 months prices will drop so low that it will shock you.

I'm ready.

I'm reminded of India, where farmers sometimes commit suicide when they can't get a good price for their crops. Or is it when they lose a crop ? Haven't paid a whole bunch of attention.

I remember about 10 years ago, a one of the other dispensary members I met in Sonoma County was calling me up, trying to move some Himalayan Sativa. Accepting $1900 a pound.

But I didn't need any - or know any body who needed any.

I just gave a friend on a very limited income some pot yesterday. Now he won't be buying any.

If I buy some, it'll be out of curiosity, and I don't care to pay more than $10 a gram.


I think the market is headed to being somewhat similar to the Hops market - with similar prices, adjusted for more labor for Cannabis grows.

Is Cannabis more mold sensitive than Hops ?


In order to help the market for Cannabis, President Trump (or Obama) would need to make it legal to export.

Which would help prices for a while - until Cannabis growing is legalized in all those export markets.

So international legalization would help prices - for a year or 2.


What happens when China starts applying their lowest-cost manufacturing ability to the production of Herb ?

Of course we'll need extra analyt. equipment to test for heavy metals and pesticides and spray on Chinese simulated resin.

 

[Snook]

I'm ready.

I'm reminded of India, where farmers sometimes commit suicide when they can't get a good price for their crops. Or is it when they lose a crop ? Haven't paid a whole bunch of attention.

I remember about 10 years ago, a one of the other dispensary members I met in Sonoma County was calling me up, trying to move some Himalayan Sativa. Accepting $1900 a pound.

But I didn't need any - or know any body who needed any.

I just gave a friend on a very limited income some pot yesterday. Now he won't be buying any.

If I buy some, it'll be out of curiosity, and I don't care to pay more than $10 a gram.


I think the market is headed to being somewhat similar to the Hops market - with similar prices, adjusted for more labor for Cannabis grows.

Is Cannabis more mold sensitive than Hops ?


In order to help the market for Cannabis, President Trump (or Obama) would need to make it legal to export.

Which would help prices for a while - until Cannabis growing is legalized in all those export markets.

So international legalization would help prices - for a year or 2.


What happens when China starts applying their lowest-cost manufacturing ability to the production of Herb ?

Of course we'll need extra analyt. equipment to test for heavy metals and pesticides and spray on Chinese simulated resin.

Imagine the lighting technology that they probably have already...

 

[Snook]

I'll be in PalmSprings for Christmas... used to be 'white' xmas, now green Christmas.. mobetta.

 

[growsjoe1]

I am just going by a documentary I saw about Colorado. Top shelf bud was about $20 a gram then a $10 tax, so $30 a gram, so $840 an ounce. Then there is sales tax, income tax, they will add growing tax, and any other tax they can think up.

All for something they were killing people for, ruining lives, imprisoning for decades, just because now they can make money from it. Just my opinion.

I just hope the taxes go to help the poor and low income, plus do good for the states, and do not go to the fed to piss away on more war mongering to make their friends rich.

...hope or not, the important thing is NO jail...that's about it, no one should be jailed for this, just not.

 

[m314]

i wish i could, but Trump winning the White House means that Christie might get his wish to be atty general, & crack down on weed- legal states federally...

Trump has come out and said that he wouldn't interfere with states who vote for legalization. He's actually in favor of medical marijuana. It's a big change from when Obama was elected 8 years ago.

I would hope that Trump sticks with this position and instructs his attorney general to not go after weed in states where it's legal.

 

[TNTBudSticker]

Trump has come out and said that he wouldn't interfere with states who vote for legalization. He's actually in favor of medical marijuana.

That's what I've heard too.Leave it to the states.If push came to shove then it'll just be rescheduled to benefit users,growers.And the Miracle Grow dirt stock.
Ohh,that would make it jump too,A reschedule.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

The Economy of Prohibition.

The Economy of Prohibition.

I wonder what the annual, actual real monetary cost of cannabis prohibition is in the US.

The funds to perpetuate this crime against humanity come from the US tax payers, and I wonder how much per tax payer, per-year it works out to be?

With these property confiscation/seizure laws and all the fines attributed to it that have to be paid under the current federal or state laws, it must add up to very large sums indeed, probably in the $Billions...

A recent gallup poll said that over 60% of Americans wanted legalization...

The benefit in state and federal taxes, plus the jobs that could be created from the plants legalization are enormous, but still the ridiculous federal laws, that group cannabis in with heroine and crack cocaine, and say that the 'erb is classified as a SCHEDULE ONE NARCOTIC, because it has no therapeutic or medicinal use is irrefutably FALSE, and most any educated person knows this is a COMPLETE and UTTER LIE which is still there, on the statute books, so that all of the INDUSTRIES of PROHIBITION can continue to profit after 80+ years, via persecuting and prosecuting INNOCENT PEOPLE, like PREDATORY PARASITES, feasting on the property and liberty of INNOCENT PEOPLE over victimless crimes,....yes, making CRIMINALS out of VICTIMS, just for profit.

How sick is that?

 

[Betterhaff]

^^ Tough to take away the feed bag especially when they’re the ones providing it.

The more states that join the legalization movement the tougher it will be for them to perpetuate the lies.

 

[subrob]

Critical mass has already been reached in the states...even before this election...it was/is just a matter of time..
But if Cali couldn't pass a bill that people in the industry are happy with...how do we all think it's gonna go w the feds?

 

[soserthc1]

Don't see Christie getting a atty general spot especially with jail hanging over his head. He was just convicted of bridge gate before the election. Trump had him sit out the last week of campaigning. He should get a spot in trumps cabinet just not that big of one.

Trumps a business man and cannabis is big business so I'm pretty sure legal states are safe.

@gyspynirvana we ( USA) consider cannabis a schedule 1 drug like heri and crack. Lsd is only a schedule 2 drug

 

[armedoldhippy]

^^ Just me guessing but Trump runs Christie and will take away his twinkies if he tries shit with states pot legalization. Trump ran casinos-booze and gambling, I doubt he has any bad will towards someone toking.

Sheldon Adelson also runs casinos, booze & gambling etc. i think he is afraid of the competition weed has for booze. i know which one i prefer...i sure hope you are right!

 

[armedoldhippy]

Critical mass has already been reached in the states...even before this election...it was/is just a matter of time..
But if Cali couldn't pass a bill that people in the industry are happy with...how do we all think it's gonna go w the feds?

considering that lots of growers think that there should be NO regulations & NO taxes, there will NEVER be a bill that EVERYONE is happy with. joe voter does not care if adults grow/consume weed. BUT, he also does not want minors to have access to it, and if you are selling it, he thinks you should be licensed & pay taxes. it IS an intoxicant, albeit the most benign one on the planet...

 

[bombadil.360]

This is appropiate for the occasion:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uEJjSuqcwtU