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Right.
As RM suggested...
I'm still under the impression that the $500/lb offer was for wet weight... right there.. right now. He was looking to leave there with crop...wanting to return to his city with the 1st of the season.. "Before croptober hit".
If we can expect ~1/4 dry weight from wet maybe we are really talking around $1800-2000/lb, which sounds pretty much the normal reasonable mean for bulk outdoor.. and likely untrimmed (or roughly) at that.
The dude ran a successful dispensary it sounds up until he was raided. Certainly he's a bit in tune with the prices. I can't seriously see him making $500 offers when the going rate is well beyond that. He would have never had a successful dispensary if he ran around offending everyone like that.
Which brings up the question. If a grower had an opportunity to offload his produce without trimming/drying. What is a reasonable rate.. freshly cut wet weight? I find it hard to believe that if a lot of growers were given such an opportunity they'd be chomping at the bit for such a deal. Granted there would be a bit unknown as to "final" weight which might be some profit walking out the door, but in a commercial setting I think that such could be an agreed upon situation.
Someone want to take my shit right off the vine at at a reasonable wet weight without me having to trim it, sit on it, dry it, etc, etc.... I'd be all over that.
EDIT - I could be totally wrong and Stockwell was really offering $500/lb dry weight. If that is the case he deserves to be laughed out of the industry for offering less then half of what the market suggests. I guess we'll never know. What's ol' Stockwell doing these days now that his charges have been dropped.
As RM suggested...
I'm still under the impression that the $500/lb offer was for wet weight... right there.. right now. He was looking to leave there with crop...wanting to return to his city with the 1st of the season.. "Before croptober hit".
If we can expect ~1/4 dry weight from wet maybe we are really talking around $1800-2000/lb, which sounds pretty much the normal reasonable mean for bulk outdoor.. and likely untrimmed (or roughly) at that.
The dude ran a successful dispensary it sounds up until he was raided. Certainly he's a bit in tune with the prices. I can't seriously see him making $500 offers when the going rate is well beyond that. He would have never had a successful dispensary if he ran around offending everyone like that.
Which brings up the question. If a grower had an opportunity to offload his produce without trimming/drying. What is a reasonable rate.. freshly cut wet weight? I find it hard to believe that if a lot of growers were given such an opportunity they'd be chomping at the bit for such a deal. Granted there would be a bit unknown as to "final" weight which might be some profit walking out the door, but in a commercial setting I think that such could be an agreed upon situation.
Someone want to take my shit right off the vine at at a reasonable wet weight without me having to trim it, sit on it, dry it, etc, etc.... I'd be all over that.
true to that... but then would that same farmer with that modest outdoor grow.. putting in all that hard work, still be getting what he's bitching about today? Eventually.. my guess is not likely.. He'd just be a normal farmer, selling a legal crop of abundance, hanging out with the guy selling green-beans and complaining about how little income he gets for his blood,sweat, and tears. Hindsight is 20/20.
EDIT - I could be totally wrong and Stockwell was really offering $500/lb dry weight. If that is the case he deserves to be laughed out of the industry for offering less then half of what the market suggests. I guess we'll never know. What's ol' Stockwell doing these days now that his charges have been dropped.
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Budweiser13
Active member
Pot Cops fucking sucks ball's I watched the episode last night and I will not watch this crap of a show again. Bunch of spineless bastard pig's. All over a harmless plant...
I know southern Oregon is seeing prices like that... but up to and in Eugene? Ouch. I hope that trend doesn't creep further north.
Midwest is right around $4000/lb
for indoor fire
at least where I am
for indoor fire
at least where I am
RM - aquagrower
Active member
First of all, I think that the whole damn show was scripted.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only law I saw broken (feds aside) was doing 83 in a 55. Shotwell did have charges pending, and for all the tough talk, ain't no way the man was gonna commit a felony on national tv.
Next, I would gladly offload any "surplus" for $500 wet. Chop it down, hang the trunk from a scale, write down weight, rinse and repeat. Tally final numbers, and pay me. Now it's yours. Drive safe.
Maybe I'm just old school, but everywhere I've ever been, the "buy 3, get one free" rule applys. End user pays $75 a quarter? Zips go for $225. QP's $675, and so on. I remember being a guy who picked up a zip once a week, hooked up a few buddys and had a "free" quarter. System works because no one knows the folks up or down the ladder.
Now if a guy wants to take an elbow for $2025 and 8th it out, I care not. Will he make more? Hell yea he will. But he is also making 128 transactions, and taking the risk doing so. Long as he is upstanding should the worst come to pass, more power to him.
Grandpa always said, "ain't no such thing as free money"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only law I saw broken (feds aside) was doing 83 in a 55. Shotwell did have charges pending, and for all the tough talk, ain't no way the man was gonna commit a felony on national tv.
Next, I would gladly offload any "surplus" for $500 wet. Chop it down, hang the trunk from a scale, write down weight, rinse and repeat. Tally final numbers, and pay me. Now it's yours. Drive safe.
Maybe I'm just old school, but everywhere I've ever been, the "buy 3, get one free" rule applys. End user pays $75 a quarter? Zips go for $225. QP's $675, and so on. I remember being a guy who picked up a zip once a week, hooked up a few buddys and had a "free" quarter. System works because no one knows the folks up or down the ladder.
Now if a guy wants to take an elbow for $2025 and 8th it out, I care not. Will he make more? Hell yea he will. But he is also making 128 transactions, and taking the risk doing so. Long as he is upstanding should the worst come to pass, more power to him.
Grandpa always said, "ain't no such thing as free money"
this ^^^^^^
growbig789
Member
Pot Cops - When it comes to the content of the show, I actually enjoyed the 1st episode alot more than any of the weed country episodes. I can understand people not liking the cops getting to tell the story from their point of view, but it is what it is... and like some are saying, it shows them for what they really are
The good thing I think is that this show so far seems to really shed some light on the scene as it is right now. It reminds me somewhat of Wild Justice, but better IMO. (that show makes the Fish and Game wardens look pretty lame too). So far the stories they cover were definitely in the local media last summer, and it shows what is actually happening and gives some color to the news releases.
It seemed to shed some light on the fact that this is really an industry that runs the emerald triangle and that there is nothing they can do to stop it. Personally to me its just amazing the scale things have grown to. Its futility and ridiculous to do anything but regulate and capitalize on the industry in a healthy way (if there is one). Its just not right or ethical for law enforcement to be busting people with a reasonable amount of weed. Public land stuff tho, I can see that... and there are definitely some shady characters in the game.
Show gave some nice looks at different setups and grows, man there is alot of weed being grown. more entertaining, to me at least
The good thing I think is that this show so far seems to really shed some light on the scene as it is right now. It reminds me somewhat of Wild Justice, but better IMO. (that show makes the Fish and Game wardens look pretty lame too). So far the stories they cover were definitely in the local media last summer, and it shows what is actually happening and gives some color to the news releases.
It seemed to shed some light on the fact that this is really an industry that runs the emerald triangle and that there is nothing they can do to stop it. Personally to me its just amazing the scale things have grown to. Its futility and ridiculous to do anything but regulate and capitalize on the industry in a healthy way (if there is one). Its just not right or ethical for law enforcement to be busting people with a reasonable amount of weed. Public land stuff tho, I can see that... and there are definitely some shady characters in the game.
Show gave some nice looks at different setups and grows, man there is alot of weed being grown. more entertaining, to me at least
Looks like all out war to me in cali hahaha!!!
Loved how they had cops from 7 counties meeting to bust folks..
SPREAD BABY SPREAD UNTIL ALL LAND IS FARMED WITH MJ!!!!!!!
Boy' those cops shure are tryin to keep their jobs huh....
How about when they said"they will defend their land at any cost" why the fuck nOT?
Yah right....all i ever see is the person opening the door and gently getting CUFFED!
THEIR lies are running out of time,and hopfully their JOBS haaaaaaaa!!!!
PiGZ are nothing more than terrorists.
Loved how they had cops from 7 counties meeting to bust folks..
SPREAD BABY SPREAD UNTIL ALL LAND IS FARMED WITH MJ!!!!!!!
Boy' those cops shure are tryin to keep their jobs huh....
How about when they said"they will defend their land at any cost" why the fuck nOT?
Yah right....all i ever see is the person opening the door and gently getting CUFFED!
THEIR lies are running out of time,and hopfully their JOBS haaaaaaaa!!!!
PiGZ are nothing more than terrorists.
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BugJar
I don't see the big guys really making any less than they do and a few personal growers here and there wouldn't effect the greater market. I wouldn't think so anyway...
Give farmers a legal avenue to sell their herb direct and I believe legalization would really revitalize the great state of Oregon.
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BugJar
I would normally agree but the HB here in Oregon is looking pretty sweet for the little guy. sure they want to use the liquor commission for retail but we also have bitching farmers rights laws that if you grow it you can process and sell direct to the consumer
My retired Republican neighbor across the road told me he supports medical marijuana "as long as 'the wrong people' don't get it." He also said he'd love to grow hemp as a cash crop if it was legal. But this is the south, so he won't make any of that happen at the ballot box.
That would be a better deal
That would be a better deal
Something like that is best, IMHO. Cut out as many middle people as possible.
That would be a better deal
Something like that is best, IMHO. Cut out as many middle people as possible.
I dvr'ed POT COPS, and watched it today, The 2 things I took away from the show, are WHY ARE THE COPS TARGETTING ANY GROWERS FROM AMERICA>>>>AMERICAN GROWERS DON"T BURN THE FORESTS, and WHAT IN THE HELL ARE THESE COPS DOING, HANGING OFF A ROPE, WHOOPING AND HOLLERING, HITTING A GARDEN, WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE GONNA BE SHOT AT?? I am a grower, and I was born and bred in America, and it pisses me off, that these cartels are coming in and bringing heat to us, and hurting our market, and ruining the environment. REAL GROWERS care about the land that produces our medicine!!!!!!
Why?Something like that is best, IMHO. Cut out as many middle people as possible.
Do you dislike all jobs or just ones dealing with cannabis?
