Possible Arrest Warrant: Emergency Takedown?

[armedoldhippy]

cops will FREQUENTLY refuse to allow a "suspect" to surrender. by doing so, they lose all leverage they would gain by doing a "search & seizure" on your home. they LIKE tearing shit up for no reason, because folks will often say shit when mad that they normally would keep quiet about. leverage is their favorite tool, don't give it to them. remember Ray Lewis of the Ravens? they charged HIM with a murder they KNEW he didn't commit, in an attempt to MAKE HIM give his testimony "freely" in court. ah yes, american "justice"...

 

[ak-51]

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[sanjuan]

Yes, and it sounds like you did the right thing--from a stress standpoint if nothing else.

 

[NHMI]

Well it is common for cops to lie to get you to incriminate yourself and that is also why they want to meet in person, they read your body language to see if you are lying or not....so know your local laws and know em well. More than that we all need to learn the Constitution and Declaration of Independance...and Bill of Rights...and in the context they were written so we can really grasp how far over the line the Govt has overstepped. It will make you sick, but if we keep that in mind come the next several elections and vote the right people in we can restore the Republic and then the Govt will have to mind its' business and pot will go back to being unlegislatable....then warrant situations will be less tense and people's plants don't have to give their lives without 1st yielding a crop...but better safe than sorry...

 

[statusquo]

Thank you! As IsmokeKush said finally someone who did the smart thing. I really like your suggestion too OP. We should ALL have tear down/storage plans in case of emergency. I have had to clean up shop once (friend died in my house...) in about 3 hours. EXTREMELY stressful situation but I handled it.

Protip: I hid some sketchy, but non-illegal, things in my car that was parked about a block away from my huge condo complex (we own). They were still able to find my car and do an outside inspection even though I was not being investigated or being placed with guilt. They did indeed question me about said sketch items as well.

 

[JJScorpio]

First of all, an arrest warrant and a search warrant are two different things. An arrest warrant does not give them the right to force there way into your home and search your premises

Secondly, giving a statement through your Lawyer, implicating another person is the same as if you did it yourself. There is a Lawyer/client confidentiality, but you gave him permission to tell your side of the story to the police. Your Lawyer is looking out for your best interest but when you told him your statement and then gave him permission to state this to the police you opened that door. They can use this information and subpoena you to testify in front of a Grand Jury. And your Lawyer is an Officer of the Court and he's not going to say that he lied regarding what you told him to say.....

I think you're involved in this more than what you are saying. If you're not involved why bother to have a Lawyer tell them anything? Although it was stated through your Lawyer, they now know exactly what you know......

I'd deffinately tear down now.... You should have just stayed quiet if you weren't involved in this.....

 

[!PeAcE!]

Ask yourself this, do you want to be sitting in jail saying "if only I went with my 1st instinct". Let me tell you a TRUE story, Ill make it quick, one night I just got super paranoid a few years back (smoked wayy to much hash) and I just kept getting sketched out for no reason and started throwing away my plants all of them by the next morning 6 garbage bags full were carried off and thrown out, later that day I smoked a blunt in my bathroom nearly burnt my house down and had 18 police cars and 5 fire trucks at my house........food for thought.

 

[slackx]

Hey guys, I need advice quick!

I was informed yesterday that I would probably be contacted by the police in a non drug related issue. I had my attorney call them today and make a simple statement on my behalf. This statement cannot be used against me nor anybody else in a court of law. I had hoped that would resolve the issue as far as my involvement. Unfortunately it seems that the police want to press charges on somebody/anybody in this case and told me that if I didn't come in to make a written statement then the would be filing charges tonight and they may or may not issue an arrest warrant. I think I told them enough to exonerate me, but my statements could be used against somebody else had I not gone through my attorney. The single charge is a felony, and I would like to reiterate, it is absolutely not related to growing or drugs in any way. There is no suspicion on their part, and the situation in which I am involved does not necessitate that they look for any evidence that I may have at my home.

Here is the issue: Do I teardown and cleanup?

I don't think that I can risk the police serving a warrant on me at my residence. I don't know if they would come in or not when serving one, I would hope that they just called me and I could report in but I think that may be wishful thinking. I may be over-reacting, but if I'm not I'll be so happy that I wasn't.

I am giving myself a little bit of time to think this over, but please respond quick.

Thanks

The fuck you snitching for?

 

[SmokyMtnToker]

Do not panic. If you see cops pull up while you are home be ready to leave the house and lock the door behind you. If they DO have an arrest warrant, they will take you then and there and have NO legal need or right to enter your abode.

The cops cannot get a search warrant just because they get an arrest warrant, two different things. Unless they have probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime is in your home then don't worry. Step outside and surrender, have your ID with you, and lock the door behind you. No problem.

 

[vonforne]

First of all, an arrest warrant and a search warrant are two different things. An arrest warrant does not give them the right to force there way into your home and search your premises

Secondly, giving a statement through your Lawyer, implicating another person is the same as if you did it yourself. There is a Lawyer/client confidentiality, but you gave him permission to tell your side of the story to the police. Your Lawyer is looking out for your best interest but when you told him your statement and then gave him permission to state this to the police you opened that door. They can use this information and subpoena you to testify in front of a Grand Jury. And your Lawyer is an Officer of the Court and he's not going to say that he lied regarding what you told him to say.....

I think you're involved in this more than what you are saying. If you're not involved why bother to have a Lawyer tell them anything? Although it was stated through your Lawyer, they now know exactly what you know......

I'd deffinately tear down now.... You should have just stayed quiet if you weren't involved in this.....

I think there is parts missing in this story. Like, what are the police accusing you of involvement with? A charge that would automatically include a home search?

You did the right thing. Now you need to think things through to make sure you are never again involved with something outside growing tat could lead to a home search by our little friends in blue.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Hey guys, I need advice quick!

I was informed yesterday that I would probably be contacted by the police in a non drug related issue. I had my attorney call them today and make a simple statement on my behalf. This statement cannot be used against me nor anybody else in a court of law. I had hoped that would resolve the issue as far as my involvement. Unfortunately it seems that the police want to press charges on somebody/anybody in this case and told me that if I didn't come in to make a written statement then the would be filing charges tonight and they may or may not issue an arrest warrant. I think I told them enough to exonerate me, but my statements could be used against somebody else had I not gone through my attorney. The single charge is a felony, and I would like to reiterate, it is absolutely not related to growing or drugs in any way. There is no suspicion on their part, and the situation in which I am involved does not necessitate that they look for any evidence that I may have at my home.

Here is the issue: Do I teardown and cleanup?

I don't think that I can risk the police serving a warrant on me at my residence. I don't know if they would come in or not when serving one, I would hope that they just called me and I could report in but I think that may be wishful thinking. I may be over-reacting, but if I'm not I'll be so happy that I wasn't.

I am giving myself a little bit of time to think this over, but please respond quick.

Thanks

Depending on Your State, and the legal risk, make Your decision.

 

[!!!]

I think you're involved in this more than what you are saying. If you're not involved why bother to have a Lawyer tell them anything? Although it was stated through your Lawyer, they now know exactly what you know......

ANY TIME you say anything to law enforcement it should be through a lawyer, even if you're not guilty. Never assume that somebody is guilty just because they stand mute or refuse to speak without a lawyer.

I'm not saying the OP Isn't involved - none of us can know and it's none of our business but maybe the OP was afraid of the police coming to his home, and so wanted to appease them by at least saying something (through a lawyer, fortunately.)

 

[SunTzu]

Good luck hombre'

 

[joe fresh]

they want you to go in for questioning, so what i would do is go to the police station with my lawer, let them ask their questions, and let them hear my SILENT answers, or give them some bs statement, or better yet since the lawer is there let him do the talking for you, all you have to do is show up. that should clear any issue of them wanting to arrest you. but if they still do theyll do it right then and there. shouldnt take more than 2-3 hrs

 

[joe fresh]

First of all, an arrest warrant and a search warrant are two different things. An arrest warrant does not give them the right to force there way into your home and search your premises

Secondly, giving a statement through your Lawyer, implicating another person is the same as if you did it yourself. There is a Lawyer/client confidentiality, but you gave him permission to tell your side of the story to the police. Your Lawyer is looking out for your best interest but when you told him your statement and then gave him permission to state this to the police you opened that door. They can use this information and subpoena you to testify in front of a Grand Jury. And your Lawyer is an Officer of the Court and he's not going to say that he lied regarding what you told him to say.....

I think you're involved in this more than what you are saying. If you're not involved why bother to have a Lawyer tell them anything? Although it was stated through your Lawyer, they now know exactly what you know......

I'd deffinately tear down now.... You should have just stayed quiet if you weren't involved in this.....

first off, a search warrant will allow them to search you , your home, and what ever else is on tha warrant.

an arrest warrant gives them the right to arrest you, for example if they know for a fact that you are in your home because they seen you thru the window(or somthing along the lines) then that gives them the full right to kick in the door and arrest you. then once they are inside they have the full right to search the house or apt for their own security and safty, anything they find can be held against you in court.


and about the lawer thing, what the lawer tells the police on his behalf is not upheld in court, its counted as hearsay and cant be held up in court, but the police can still use this info to open up an investigation that would lead to further evidence and that "other evidence"can be held against you in court.

i have the best lawer in canada, he always says "SAY NOTHING TO NOBODY, WE CAN MAKE UP WHAT THEY(COPS/DA) NEED TO HEAR ALONG THE WAY", which is the ways its supposed to be, that is if your lawer really gives a shit about you. my lawer may be expensive, but you get what you pay for

 

[ak-51]

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[sanjuan]

"Involvement: perfectly reasonable to speculate on, since I decline to go into very much detail here for my own safety. I always have an attorney, and will always seek the advice of my attorney in any legal matter. They don't know exactly what I know; my statement was less of a tell-all biography and more of a cliffs-notes that the dog chewed up and buried in the back yard."

"They" being the police? I've read (on a cannabis lawyer's site) you should always tell your lawyer the full story. (I mean the full story of the incident--no reason for you to bring up cannabis.) In fact, that would put your lawyer in a jam--knowledge of ongoing criminal activity.

 

[JJScorpio]

Just because someone implicates you in a statement means nothing. If it isn't true then who cares. You said that you had your Lawyer explain to them your part, or lack of, in this.

I fail to understand why your Lawyer would have done this? Anything that you told him and asked him to tell them is more than they had before you did this.

As for the Grand Jury, if you're subpoenad and given immunity then you have to testify truthfully. The good part of that is if you are guilty of something, and they ask you to state what happened, nothing you say can ever be used against you.

"I think I told them enough to exonerate me, but my statements could be used against somebody else had I not gone through my attorney'. I assumed from this statement that you had your Lawyer tell the police your friends involvement in this crime. Am I incorrect? You have Lawyer/client confidentiality, but you asked him to make a statement to the police regarding what you know in this case. Didn't he explain to you the ramifications of doing this?

 

[mrwags]

Dr. Purpur I have no idea how long you plan on hanging out around here but you need to leave the lady's alone please.

You don't need the torment that they are more than willing to give and we sure as hell don't want to read about it so play nice please that statement had no relevance here and kidding or not some things you don't kid about.


TY
Mr.Wags

 

[ak-51]

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