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whitebox

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hey, just keep that drain ec low... and use just a third of the pk dose recomended, but maybe wait another week with that

hi Moritzst,
thanx for tha advice bro',
i've down the ec to 1.1 but you know i've a background Ec of 0.43 so they just have roughly 0.70Ec in real food...
for the pk a friend (growshop owner) gave me a sample bottle of top shooter from H&G, i plan to give a half or third dose to reach an overall 1.1/1.2. so, i'll low the normal food to reach this Ec level including all.
i've read that coco grows can be very sensitive with pk adds.
thanx for your input Mo.
:tiphat:
 

whitebox

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hey friends, i think i'll give in a day or 2 the 1rst pk dose to the crosses wich are 8weekers and wait for the unknown wich seems to be well longer, they have a huge amount of long white hairs and makes new everyday.
one of the 2 crosses have already a good part of the hair brown, i know it is not a full ripe sign but it indicate the plant is going in the ripe direction more than full white hairs.
i always check trichs several times before to harvest.
i wish i don't do anything wrong with the pk...
cheers Friends.
 

imakandi

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hello
whitebox

all good looking :)

see you start with more ec
but now is 1.1?

pk week is strongest week

in experiance,
add pk take pH very high
to keep 5.8-5.9
withuot additive
push more ec from base nutrient
balance 1-1-2 to 1.5-2-3

but is no instruction
safe is best

luck to you :)
:huggg:
 

whitebox

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hello
whitebox

all good looking :)

see you start with more ec
but now is 1.1?

pk week is strongest week

in experiance,
add pk take pH very high
to keep 5.8-5.9
withuot additive
push more ec from base nutrient
balance 1-1-2 to 1.5-2-3

but is no instruction
safe is best

luck to you :)
:huggg:

hi Imakandi,
thanx to stop and nice for the advice i always need many,
i'm not sure i get what you means to explain to me.
my fert is a 2 bottles line with grow and bloom wich are used together along the grow.
actualy the ratio is 1grow and 2 bloom and i give them around ec1.1/1.2 twice a day with a good runoff (20%minimum).
i've lowered a bit the ec because i saw light feedburn on the tip of a few plant's top leaves.
so what do you sugest?
i thought to give them a light Pk dose with dropped down nutes to reach an ec of 1.2/1.3 alltogether.
but i'd like to try your way if it is safe and effective.
i need to be sure that i have understand , my english is not good, sorry.
have a nice day Amakandi.:)
 

Cmoon

Member
O.K Iv reviewed the comments and feel my post is confusing:biggrin:


P.K at a third first dose, PK at half 2nd time, But my base nutes (canna) are max and in total ec around 2.00 on a strain like my Thai leaning Northern 2.4 on an iws with no tip burn.


Im not sure of the nutrients you use whitebox and if the low ec regime works for you lightly dosing as you discribe will work perfectly well, im just confident hitting them hard in big bloom week drastically increases final yeild for me but i do build in increments dedicated by plant progression.


looking sweet as, even small pk hit will be evident in days:tiphat:
 

whitebox

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hey Cmoon,
thanx for the precisions,
i've mailed GHeurope and they answer that no pk is needed neither calmag even with RO with this formula, and they add that i risk a p or k toxicity if i add some...
i think a good dose will not kill them anyway and will try first on the 2 crosses.
true that in the GH line i didn't see any pk except ripen wich is not totaly a pk.
tomorow i'll shoot a couple pics.
have a nice day Bro'.
 
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Cmoon

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I use ripen if its through the Blumats but prefer to handwater blackstrap molasses a few times over the last weeks of flush.


good luck
 

Cmoon

Member
sry m8 (this northerns getting stronger):laughing:
disclaimer:biggrin:


I never flush, I feed them water for the last 10 to 14 days, molases or ripen are minimul and just water last 4 days:dance013:
 

whitebox

Active member
day 36

day 36

hi Cmoon, thanx for precision.
i plan to give them 4 or 5 days of ripen maybe only 3 and a good week water only flush at ph6.
usually they do great with that but it's my first round with floracoco so don't really know...

anyway, tonight i gave them an half dose of top shooter with their food for a total Ec of 1.3, wait and see.

so the unknown are really impressive, i have 3 phenos i think on the 4 plants, one is more indica shaped the smallest, but budz are really the most dense of the3 so far, with a strange synthetic strawberry/coffe mixed in the smell,
so covered in trichs that the few gnats flying around got sticked and died on gooey leaves.

another one is well indica dom too but a tad taller ,smell is more like the third pheno.budz are dense too.

third pheno is expressing on 2 identical plants, the heaviest yielder i guess, tiny bit less covered and also less dense than phenos 1 and 2 but plants are double in size so they should be generous when harvest come.

this pheno smell is really hard to describe with my poor english...
very fruity but not at all on the berry nor strawberry side, at first it reminds me sort of a lady perfume, this shit reeks but not like some weed, it is something different i didn't know this type of smell in weed until now.
few pics: the down side unknown with a suicidal gnat on the sticky leave
down side budz on the fastest OgxCali:
random budz day 36 today:
 
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Cmoon

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]so covered in trichs that the few gnats flying around got sticked and died on gooey leaves.[/FONT]
cant beat a BarbQ:biggrin:


Looks great:dance013:
 

whitebox

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thanx for the nice words bro',
i'll give them the second Pk blast on friday i think.
have a nice day Cmoon.
 

whitebox

Active member
hi Friends, today is day42 and i only have pic from yesterday but i'll pic plants one by one tonight.
food is at ec1.8 (including their last dose of TopShooter), ph is 6.2 i just bought a 25 bucks Ph pen...
they look nice i think, and the unknown seems to be really longer than the Og's to finish, they are turning very dense and heavy in the last few dayz if i compare with the 32nd or 35th day of flow,
pics:
the last one is an Og cross, the slowest of the 2 phenos.
cheers guys.
:tiphat:
 

ridoo

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Hohoho, that start to frost on the top leafs :p

they still look nice green and white flowers, you gonna have a pretty good harvest man

cool
 

whitebox

Active member
wow, thats some heavy budskirt the last ones wearing, quality yield looks on

thanx Cmoon for the kind words,
i gave them half PK dose at first and a full blast 3 dayz later as you advised and it turned to work more than well.
you can note that i listened more at you than at the answer GHEurope gave me...
thank YOU so much.
:tiphat:
 

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