Poll: When do you start day 1 flower? 12/12 or first pistil?

[Phases]

Moose eater - I have to agree with you go by the tricromes that's the sure way to tell.

I count the first day of 12/12 as day one and then look at the tricromes to determine when to harvest.

 

[theweedman420]

Exactly

Exactly

No.... Some of us let the buds tell us when they're ripe.. not the ink on the package.

Now that is true.. Why I said if you start day 1 from 1212 flip.. It will go 9 or 10 weeks..I use to count from 1212 but when I do they always go over 9 weeks in flower.. Now that I wait they only go 8 weeks or little more and I only go 5% amber

 

[theweedman420]

I really don't count flower I keep track of water\feedings give plants what they want bye looking at them then when I see red hair I start looking for amber

 

[moose eater]

When feeding on the heavy side in mid or later phase bloom, (often/sometimes to production and quality's detriment) it's possible to arrest some of the energy the plant would/might express through the buds. Then rinsing for what is estimated to be the last couple of weeks takes that level of nutrients down, at some point in the graph coming into a more normal range, and I have seen buds find what might be called their 'second wind,' and start putting out fresh new pistils as they re-enter that more normal range of nutes, even though the plant, overall, is more or less ripe... or close to it.

Just one example, in my experience, of the fluctuations in the estimated number of days to harvest caused by circumstances.

Now that is true.. Why I said if you start day 1 from 1212 flip.. It will go 9 or 10 weeks..I use to count from 1212 but when I do they always go over 9 weeks in flower.. Now that I wait they only go 8 weeks or little more and I only go 5% amber

 

[theweedman420]

Yes but not flower lol

Yes but not flower lol

There's no need to be defiant weedman, however, I do admire your passion.

Day 1 = The first full day of a 12/12 cycle for me. I then simply label and date each unique seed #1, #2, and so on according to when each shows sex.

defiantly the first day of 12/12 but not flower.. Idk about your plants but after my plants are about 10 days of 12/12 they don't start driving up for another 8 weeks every time just about it... but you probably Harvest when your hairs starts to turn red hun...

 

[theweedman420]

Lol driving up haha

 

[theweedman420]

Only reason its 96 to 29 is kuz the ones who voted for 1212 ain't high kuz there Bud's ain't mature.. And the others forgot to vote because they're high as hell off of their riding buds and the other 29 are still waiting for their s*** to ripen up so they're out of smoke for a few weeks

 

[theweedman420]

F****** spellchecker ripened

 

[$eriously$illy]

I count from 12/12 flip, but only to compare strains or for info sharing. Harvest time, though, is a matter of reading the trichomes rather than the calendar.

 

[$eriously$illy]

Would like to know how others reliably count the outdoor times. For my own purposes I count days-from-solstice to harvest, but figure there's some better way.

 

[moose eater]

If by 'outdoor' you're including greenhouses, in the sub-arctic, the days are long in the middle of summer, but the growing season is curtailed by a wet August (Interior of Alaska) and (typically) a cold Fall.

In days long gone, 40+ years back and since, greenhouse growers up here would often darken for r12/12 with black plastic over frames, using everything from manually-spread black visqueen, to the same material on ropes and pulleys (with the bottom edges weighted with long poles of one wood or another, plastic pipe, lighter-weight conduit, etc., and for the fancy folks with money, similar systems rigged to garage door openers (if they had access to electricity. Some used tracks of one sort or another, with carts made of (typically) plywood, lumber, and casters, with greenhouse structures joined to windowless sheds, and rolling the carts on tracks between the greenhouses and darkened sheds.

In those cases, there's still a definable day/moment of going to 12/12.

Would like to know how others reliably count the outdoor times. For my own purposes I count days-from-solstice to harvest, but figure there's some better way.