Polio Vaccine?

[Flying Goat]

Ah yes, good ol' aspartame. This is used as an artificial sweetener in almost everything imaginable. Your Diet Coke, your sugar-free gum, the list goes on and on. Aspartame is a dangerous chemical. They will tell you that this chemical has been deemed safe by 90 countries worldwide. The FDA will tell you that which they want you to hear. Understand that the FDA is a major farce. Ever wonder why they approved drugs and being unsafe only to find out a couple years later that these drugs that the FDA approved now calls all kinds of problems in the body. The FDA approves that which they are given money to approve. They are not concerned about your health. They are just as corrupt as the government. It is all about money just like the whole medical system is about money and nothing more than a scam. aspartame is composed of aspartic acid

MSG: This food additive is truly bad for the body. It is in almost everything you will find in your kitchen cabinet. It is a Substance added to foods and beverages that literally stimulate the neurons in your brain to death causing brain damage. It is not just MSG. Its is also other excitotoxins such as Aspartame (Nutrasweet), hydrolyzed protein, cystein and aspartic acid. So pay attention when buying processed foods. There are many brands of food out there that you can purchase that do not have MSG or these other chemicals within them. I will tell you the biggest reason why it is bad for you. Although it was supposedly developed as a food enhancer it actually designed to dummy down the brain. Yes it is designed to make you stupid. MSG is almost like a brainwashing chemical. It makes you more susceptible to crap that the government pushes down your throat thru the media sources. So you can ignore my warnings and go about your everyday life. Or you can wise up and give a big middle finger to the government who allows this shit to be put into your food supply.

Ah, yes... Aspartame is a dangerous chemical... But dig a little - find out how they make it...

Enormous tanks filled with E. coli bacteria... Yes, I said E. coli, the same that "contaminated" meat products & killed kids a while back.

What are these bacteria doing in the tanks? SHITTING, of course. Turns out, the FECES of these bacteria has a sweet taste... and people be trained by now to like it. So, Diet Coke is full of bacteria shit which makes it taste like regular Coke, but not quite.

Helluva marketing problem, eh? Better just use Rumsfeld (Searl Laboratories, then moved to the FDA) to push it thru, no questions.

Result: Instant, enormous profits. Makes people trying to lose weight get fatter. Highly addictive & withdrawal can cause weeks of migraines (ask me).

On the MSG, don't get me started... I can hardly think of a worse thing to put in one's food that this crap.

This 'soft kill' has been going on since the 1970s, y'all. But half of ya weren't even born then so have been conditioned to believe that "nothing is wrong, nothing to see here, just move along..."

There are actual documents by Bertram Russell & others about "teaching slaves to LOVE their servitude."

Those pro vaccination should realise that they now have vaccines that are able to select target populations by their DNA... And cancers usually don't begin to develop until DECADES after the vaccination is given.

Ask yourself - Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, WHO, Warren Buffett - ya really beLIEve they wanna vaccinate all of Africa from "the goodness of their hearts?"

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! This same establishment continued to send BILLIONS overseas while instructing the States to "suspend recharges of all EBT benefits UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE." (emphasis mine)

What??? Send millions to Israel & other places but let Americans starve? Duh! Why close down the San Joaquin Valley for a fucking minnow? Gulf seafood is gone. They're blowing levies around the Mississippi, flooding farmland there... Once they blow the New Madrid, there will be very little left for y'all to eat.

Hence the massive FOOD STAMP program. I knew in 2009 when Alabama's enrollment went up by 100%, we were on short time. They want you completely dependent so they can rip the rug out from under you.

Ask yourself WHY gmo food is good for "the masses," but the wealthy have access to organic produce from their own farms away from the toxic soup of CTs and bacteria raining down on you.

THINK!

Hopefully, enough of you are by now pissed enuf to get off here & go do some research. Start on YouTube.

Oyate. Myasin.

 

[Flying Goat]

Interesting definition of the word Fact there, considering not one single Vaccine contains Mercury.

Some vaccines contain a preservative derived from Mercury, but it isn't mercury, in the same way whiskey isn't grain.

Dude, are you out of your fricking MIND? They don't call it 'mercury,' now. It's "thimerosol" and it's in every vaccine as a 'preservative." Also found in many contact lens solutions.

And ALL silver "amalgam" fillings. Those are ILLEGAL down here, as are root canal procedures. My dentist is very cheap, does great work, works from his house, and SPECIALIZES in removing silver amalgam fillings & replacing with porcelain compound.

I clued in a few other expats & now he has a "dental tourism" business building. IF ya gotta have dental work, why not relax on the beach afterward, eh?

BTW, every coal-burning power plant (and they're still better than nukes" is spraying down mercury on residents within the 3 mile zone every day, 5 mile zone with winds.

Every "efficient" CFL lightbulb after it is warmed up, emits mercury vapor into the air you are breathing. Wonder WHY incandescent bulbs are how hard to find, or ILLEGAL in some places now?

For your own good, of course!

I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing you've never traveled outside the US (mebby Mex or Canada)... But you have MOST DEF never LIVED outside the US.

More freedom in Laos, which I loved. Returned in 2007, horrified to see what happened when I was gone.

Make plans then to GTFO, but then the Gulf dog & pony show, & had to just keep alive. Used the time to study this country's constitution, economy, living standards, history, traditions, etc.

May I ask how many languages you speak? Crawl out from under yer rock, mate.

'Pologies for stepping on your toes, but if you can still feel it, there might still be hope.

Peace.

 

[trichrider]

use cannabis...

thanx Gray Wolf...

Here is an explaination of how the cannabinoids address cancer, by a biochemist prostate cancer patient named Dennis Hill, that I scored on another forum, where it was presented by Dom

Cancer-specific Cytotoxicity of Cannabinoids

First let's look at what keeps cancer cells alive, then we will come back and examine how the cannabinoids CBD (cannabidiol) and THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) unravels cancer's aliveness.

In every cell there is a family of interconvertible sphingolipids that specifically manage the life and death of that cell. This profile of factors is called the Sphingolipid Rheostat. If ceramide (a signaling metabolite of sphingosine-1-phosphate) is high, then cell death (apoptosis) is imminent. If ceramide is low, the cell will be strong in its vitality.

Very simply, when THC connects to the CB1 or CB2 cannabinoid receptor site on the cancer cell, it causes an increase in ceramide synthesis which drives cell death. A normal healthy cell does not produce ceramide in the presence of THC, thus is not affected by the cannabinoid.

The cancer cell dies, not because of cytotoxic chemicals, but because of a tiny little shift in the mitochondria. Within most cells there is a cell nucleus, numerous mitochondria (hundreds to thousands), and various other organelles in the cytoplasm. The purpose of the mitochondria is to produce energy (ATP) for cell use. As ceramide starts to accumulate, turning up the Sphingolipid Rheostat, it increases the mitochondrial membrane pore permeability to cytochrome c, a critical protein in energy synthesis. Cytochrome c is pushed out of the mitochondria, killing the source of energy for the cell.

Ceramide also causes genotoxic stress in the cancer cell nucleus generating a protein called p53, whose job it is to disrupt calcium metabolism in the mitochondria. If this weren't enough, ceramide disrupts the cellular lysosome, the cell's digestive system that provides nutrients for all cell functions. Ceramide, and other sphingolipids, actively inhibit pro-survival pathways in the cell leaving no possibility at all of cancer cell survival.

The key to this process is the accumulation of ceramide in the system. This means taking therapeutic amounts of cannabinoid extract, steadily, over a period of time, keeping metabolic pressure on this cancer cell death pathway.

How did this pathway come to be? Why is it that the body can take a simple plant enzyme and use it for healing in many different physiological systems? is endocannabinoid system exists in all animal life, just waiting for it's matched exocannabinoid activator.

This is interesting. Our own endocannabinoid system covers all cells and nerves; it is the messenger of information flowing between our immune system and the central nervous system (CNS). It is responsible for neuroprotection, and micro-manages the immune system. is is the primary control system that maintains homeostasis; our well being.

Just out of curiosity, how does the work get done at the cellular level, and where does the body make the endocannabinoids? Here we see that endocannabinoids have their origin in nerve cells right at the synapse. When the body is compromised through illness or injury it calls insistently to the endocannabinoid system and directs the immune system to bring healing. If these homeostatic systems are weakened, it should be no surprise that exocannabinoids perform the same function. It helps the body in the most natural way possible.

To see how this works we visualize the cannabinoid as a three dimensional molecule, where one part of the molecule is configured to fit the nerve or immune cell receptor site just like a key in a lock. There are at least two types of cannabinoid receptor sites, CB1 (CNS) and CB2 (immune). In general CB1 activates the CNS messaging system, and CB2 activates the immune system, but it's much more complex than this. Both THC and anandamide activate both receptor sites. Other cannabinoids activate one or the other receptor sites. Among the strains of Cannabis, C. sativa tends toward the CB1 receptor, and C. indica tends toward CB2. So sativa is more neuroactive, and indica is more immunoactive. Another factor here is that sativa is dominated by THC cannabinoids, and indica is predominately CBD (cannabidiol).

It is known that THC and CBD are biomimetic to anandamide, that is, the body can use both interchangeably. us, when stress, injury, or illness demand more from endogenous anandamide than can be produced by the body, its mimetic exocannabinoids are activated. If the stress is transitory, then the treatment can be transitory. If the demand is sustained, such as in cancer, then treatment needs to provide sustained pressure of the modulating agent on the homeostatic systems.

Typically CBD gravitates to the densely packed CB2 receptors in the spleen, home to the body's immune system. From there, immune cells seek out and destroy cancer cells. Interestingly, it has been shown that THC and CBD cannabinoids have the ability to kill cancer cells directly without going through immune intermediaries. THC and CBD hijack the lipoxygenase pathway to directly inhibit tumor growth. As a side note, it has been discovered that CBD inhibits anandamide reuptake. Here we see that cannabidiol helps the body preserve its own natural endocannabinoid by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks down anandamide.

This brief survey touches lightly on a few essential concepts. Mostly I would like to leave you with an appreciation that nature has designed the perfect medicine that fits exactly with our own immune system of receptors and signaling metabolites to provide rapid and complete immune response for systemic integrity and metabolic homeostasis.

~Dennis Hill

The Human Endocannabinoid System Meets the Infammatory Cytokine Cascade

The Endocannabinoid System (ECS) started revealing itself to researchers in the 1940s and by the late ‘60s the basic structure and functionality had been laid out. Today we know the ECS is a comprehensive system of biochemical modulators that maintain homeostasis in all body systems including the central and peripheral nervous systems, all organ systems, somatic tissues, and all metabolic biochemical systems, including the immune system.

This homeostatic matrix is not a recent evolutionary twist just for humans; we find the Endo-cannabinoid System in every chordate creature for the last 500 million years. It is a fully mature biochemical technology that has maintained health and metabolic balance for most of the history of life itself.

The two major interactive systems within the ECS are (1) the cannabinoid receptors that we find on all cell surfaces and neurological junctions and (2) the endocannabinoids that fit the receptors to trigger various metabolic processes. Looking at a cannabinoid receptor distribution map we see that CB1 receptors, that are most sensitive to anandamide, are found in the brain, spinal nerves, and peripheral nerves. CB2 receptors preferred by 2-arachidonoylglycerol (2-AG) are found largely in the immune system, primarily the spleen. A mix of CB1 and CB2 receptors are found throughout the rest of the body including the skeletal system. And yes, 2-AG or CBDwill grow new trabecular bone.1 It is also useful to note that both anandamide and 2-AG can activate either CB1 or CB2 receptors.

The nature of the endocannabinoids are functionally much like neurotransmitters, but structurally are eicosanoids in the family of signaling sphingolipids. These signaling cannabinoids keep track of metabolic systems all over the body. This information is shared with the nervous system and the immune system so that any imbalance is attended to. If the body is in chronic disease or emotional stress, the immune system can fall behind and lose control of compromised systems. It is here that phytocannabinoids can pitch in to support the stressed body in a return to health. The cannabis plant provides analogues of the body’s primary signaling cannabinoids. Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is mimetic to anandamide, and cannabidiol (CBD) is mimetic to 2-AG, and has the same affinity to CB1 and CB2 receptors; providing the body with additional support for the immune and endocannabinoid systems.

Phytocannabinoids supercharge the body’s own Endocannabinoid System by amping up the response to demand from the immune signaling system in two modes of intervention: one, of course, is in bonding with the cannabinoid receptors; the other is in regulation of innumerable physiological processes, such as cannabinoid’s powerful neuroprotective and anti-in$ammatory actions, quite apart from the receptor system. It is interesting to note here that the phytocannabinoids and related endocannabinoids are functionally similar, but structurally different. As noted above, anandamide and 2-AG are eicosanoids while THC and CBD are tricyclic terpenes.

Let us look more closely at the two primary therapeutic cannabinoids, THC and CBD. The National Institutes of Health tell us that THC is the best known because of its signature psycho-tropic effect. is government report shows THC to be effective as an anti-cancer treatment, an appetite stimulant, analgesic, antiemetic, anxiolytic, and sedative.2

CBD (cannabidiol) is a metabolic sibling of THC, in that they are alike in many ways but are also different in important properties. First we see that CBD has no psychotropic effects and there are few CB2 receptors in the brain and peripheral nerves. There appears to be a broader therapeutic profile associated with CBD, which is listed here: anxiolytic, anticancer, antipsychotic, antidiabetic, antiepileptic, antisporiatic, neuroprotective, intestinal anti-prokinetic, vasorelaxant, analgesic, antispasmodic, bone-stimulant, anti-ishcemic, anti-inflammatory, antiproliferative, immunosupressive, antiemetic, antibacterial.

One of the most important health benefits of cannabinoids is their anti-inflammatory property. In this, they are strong modulators of the inflammatory cytokine cascade. Numerous disease states arise out of chronic inflammation; such as, depression, dementias including Alzheimer’s, cancer, arthritis and other autoimmune disorders, viral infection, HIV, brain injury, etc.

Inflammatory cytokines can be activated by oxidative stress and disease states. Cannabinoids, being immunomodulators interrupt the cytokine inflammatory cascade so that local inflammation does not result in tissue pathology. Thus we are spared morbid or terminal illnesses.4

If our own endocannabinoid system can maintain metabolic homeostasis and even cure serious disease, why are we plagued by illness? We know that the body produces only small amounts of anandamide and 2-AG; enough to maintain the body but not enough to overcome chronic stress, illness, injury, or malnutrition. Cannabis is the only plant we know of that produces phyto-cannabinoids that mimic our own endocannabinoids. One of the great benefits of this mimetic medicine is that cannabinoids are essentially natural to our biology and do no harm to our tissues and systems.

It is well known that most diseases of aging are inflammatory in origin, thus making cannabis the best anti-aging supplement we could take to avoid arthritis, dementia, hypertension, diabetes, osteoporosis, and cancer. is is our key to good health and long life.

Since it is such an important attribute, as well as being independent of the cannabinoid recep-tor system, let’s look a little deeper into the ability of cannabinoids to inhibit the inflammatory cytokine cascade. Inflammation is good for us, a little here, a little there; it brings T-cells and macrophages to infection sites. is is good. However, chronic inflammation can cause serious illness and death. How do phytocannabinoids rescue us from dreaded infirmities? When the call comes in to the immune system to send troops, the first thing to happen is that the immune system signals glial cells to produce cytokines. Once this cat is out of the bag, the process can go one of two ways.

Killer cells clean up the infection and all is well.

Cytokines can stimulate more cytokine production and cause many more cytokine receptors to awaken. Unchecked, this becomes a cytokine storm showing symptoms of swelling, redness, fatigue, and nausea; even death.

Phytocannabinoids have the ability to suppress this inflammatory cytokine cascade by inhibiting glial cell production of the cytokines interferon or interleukin. Here we see the seeds of chronic inflammation dissolved by the modulation process of cannabinoids bringing homeostasis to systems out of balance. This is a good example of how cannabinoids normalize biological processes all throughout the body and allows us to keep that glow of well-being through a long and happy lifetime.

~Dennis Hill


Harry...OK. so mercury is in the thimerasol which is used as a presevative...so mercury in vaccinations...although this is a bit outdated as they say...damage done...scroll down to RESULTS...thanx.

http://www.healing-arts.org/childre...search/Thimerosal_Brain_Damage_Cell_Death.pdf

 

[Flying Goat]

Excellent read, Mr. Trich! I'm tired & need my nap but why do I smoke???

1) Pain control;
2) Promotes cellular apoptosis
3) Prevents angiogenesis of tumors
4) Stops nausea, muscle spasm, GI issues related to FM

5) Helps me tolerate people; I prefer goats to most humans, and the more I read here, for good reason

6) Every single part of this plant is balanced by Mother Nature to do exactly what your body needs it to do.


Why??? Hell, I love it. Growing is much more addicting than just smoking. I smoke it, I grow it, I eat it and I heal others with it.

'Nuff said.

Great article, Trich. When me eyes are better, will pick thru some stuff. I have about 20 years' of documentation on this shit, having once worked for the 'Deathcare Industry.'

 

[trichrider]

bring it! cannot have too much.

information heals as well as sickens.

 

[itisme]

ASPARTAME is renamed AMINO SWEET among a few others and it is SHIT from Genetically Engineered E COLI! Sweet shit!

GREAT THREAD!

 

[supermanlives]

all of the oldest healthiest folks I know live backwoods and haven't ever had any shots. makes ya wonder.thats why I am done with the city. I get to check out my food before harvesting it. the closer you are to mother nature the better off. now go get your shots bitches and don't let your immune system do its thing. then when something your system cant handle comes out without a shot your fucked. cause your system aint been working out. other than this cancer I am dealing with I aint been sick for like maybe 2 weeks total in my life. I believe it was cause my immune system got worked hard and did what its fucking supposed to.it would be my luck that the few shots I got as a kid were the cause of my cancer. carlin did a thing about them shots lol the more you stray from natural the more your fucked. I hate fake sugar and I don't trust a company whos goal is profit with my health no matter how many people they pay off and studies they got. common sense works for me

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Dude, are you out of your fricking MIND? They don't call it 'mercury,' now. It's "thimerosol" and it's in every vaccine as a 'preservative." Also found in many contact lens solutions.

Thimerisol, is derived from Mercury, it is not mercury. It is not in every vaccine. Yes it is a preservative, that's what I said.


Also, CFLs do not emit mercury fumes. The mercury is contained in a sealed glass tube. There is an issue when CFLs are broken, but they do not emit mercury fumes when in use.

I assure you, I am not under any rock, I just don't read natural news or prison planet. Show me some real evidence, ie real peer reviewed studies, published in one or more mainstream scientific journals (not some journal started by the crystal healing homeopathy set), that hasn't been subsequently shown to be flawed/wrong, and I will change my mind.
What how many languages I may or may not speak has to do with anything I don't know.

 

[trichrider]

whatever your purpose here, you posting argument is welcome, ridicule not so much. it doesn't further anyones exposure/education by dropping that here.

peace

edit: Harry that was not intended to be directed at you. only there certainly are passionate views both sides of this.
look at who/what damage has occurred and from whence it came. apologists for vaccines are supported by the industries causing the damage.
whom you choose to believe is up to your conscience...did you evaluate all the possibilities?

i didn't start this thread, it was redirected from another. but it appears that more people are in areement than not. i'm pretty sure there is reason for that.

 

[DrFever]

all of the oldest healthiest folks I know live backwoods and haven't ever had any shots. makes ya wonder.thats why I am done with the city. I get to check out my food before harvesting it. the closer you are to mother nature the better off. now go get your shots bitches and don't let your immune system do its thing. then when something your system cant handle comes out without a shot your fucked. cause your system aint been working out. other than this cancer I am dealing with I aint been sick for like maybe 2 weeks total in my life. I believe it was cause my immune system got worked hard and did what its fucking supposed to.it would be my luck that the few shots I got as a kid were the cause of my cancer. carlin did a thing about them shots lol the more you stray from natural the more your fucked. I hate fake sugar and I don't trust a company whos goal is profit with my health no matter how many people they pay off and studies they got. common sense works for me

Think about this for a moment in men our sperm count is decreasing at a rapid rate compared to back in the 40- 50- 60's
you know i laugh when i see people getting there shots and why so many get so sick right after it fck that be old school like back in the day you will live longer

 

[trichrider]

Thimerisol, is derived from Mercury, it is not mercury. It is not in every vaccine. Yes it is a preservative, that's what I said.

http://www.healing-arts.org/childre...search/Thimerosal_Brain_Damage_Cell_Death.pdf

pay attention to 'results' on page 2. a must read...and i believe it's in the vaccines we've been discussing.

 

[trichrider]

http://momsagainstmercury.org/Research/Toxicity of Thimerosal[1].pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892749/

many more...

 

[trichrider]

A Salon/Rolling Stone joint investigation

In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the session -- only private invitations to fifty-two attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly "embargoed." There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.


The federal officials and industry representatives had assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency's massive database containing the medical records of 100,000 children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines -- thimerosal -- appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. "I was actually stunned by what I saw," Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants -- in one case, within hours of birth -- the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children.

...an excerpt:
More than 500,000 kids currently suffer from autism, and pediatricians diagnose more than 40,000 new cases every year. The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among eleven children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931.

...
"The preservative, which is used to stem fungi and bacterial growth in vaccines, contains ethylmercury, a potent neurotoxin."




read entire article... http://www.coonlakebeach.com/autism.htm

 

[bill cooper]

Anti vac paranoid fuckwits backing up there fuckwit claims with links to quack sites

 

[floralheart]

Dude, are you out of your fricking MIND? They don't call it 'mercury,' now. It's "thimerosol" and it's in every vaccine as a 'preservative." Also found in many contact lens solutions.

According to what I've been told by older family members, thimerosol is what was causing children to be born with duck bills and assorted animal parts.

It also appears that it has been sprayed as an aerosol over parts of Africa. And whether connected or not, animals have been born with the faces of humans the past 10 years and uploaded onto the Internet. Probably from whatever bio weapons are being sprayed overhead.

I don't believe for a second every region receives the same spray. It probably started as an inert solution, and is strategically what ever it needs to be. Not to mention, a lot of it has likely been dispersed by drones and remote pilots.

Back on the medical field, Bayer was a key member of IG Farben. Also the creator of the drug heroine. And was also recently involved in the past 10 years in a scandal where toxic plant chemicals were fed to children under the guise of powdered milk, in Peru.

Of course, the children were hospitalized and most if not all died. Which makes me ever question pharmaceutical companies. Especially, when one tracks their origins to Nazi Germany and follows forwards to modern scandals and intrigue.

 

[trichrider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXRXrh8BHQ

[YOUTUBEIF]zmXRXrh8BHQ[/YOUTUBEIF]

 

[trichrider]

all you fuckwits!!...! OUTTA THE POOL!

 

[floralheart]

Thimerisol, is derived from Mercury, it is not mercury. It is not in every vaccine. Yes it is a preservative, that's what I said.


Also, CFLs do not emit mercury fumes. The mercury is contained in a sealed glass tube. There is an issue when CFLs are broken, but they do not emit mercury fumes when in use.

I assure you, I am not under any rock, I just don't read natural news or prison planet. Show me some real evidence, ie real peer reviewed studies, published in one or more mainstream scientific journals (not some journal started by the crystal healing homeopathy set), that hasn't been subsequently shown to be flawed/wrong, and I will change my mind.
What how many languages I may or may not speak has to do with anything I don't know.

Can I show you a list of dead biologists instead? It's almost comical how many scientists are hog-tied and set on fire in their basements, shot outside their homes and drown in hotel swimming pools.

Science is a dangerous field. Plane crash, car crash, jumps from a bridge. One even exploded when a remote control bomb detonated near his car. Wait, more than one.

 

[trichrider]

link it...

 

[Harry Gypsna]

whatever your purpose here, you posting argument is welcome, ridicule not so much. it doesn't further anyones exposure/education by dropping that here.

peace

edit: Harry that was not intended to be directed at you. only there certainly are passionate views both sides of this.
look at who/what damage has occurred and from whence it came. apologists for vaccines are supported by the industries causing the damage.
whom you choose to believe is up to your conscience...did you evaluate all the possibilities?

i didn't start this thread, it was redirected from another. but it appears that more people are in areement than not. i'm pretty sure there is reason for that.

No worries fella, if we all thought the same way, the world would be a bloody boring place.


I still think you are wrong though