PNW Growers- Redux

[Spaceman_Spliff]

SmokinDog, You are more than welcom to hang with us. I think everyone has something to bring to the table, a fresh perspective if nothing elce. Welcome! I have no experience with Sour Bubble is that a BOG cross of Rez's strain? Both are very good at what they do! From what I understand BOG specializes in mainly indoor strains, but I have wanted to try my hand at a couple of his crosses outdoors. He too is from the great Pacific North West. As for RezDog I know very little about his strains but I hear they are top notch!

Peace, SSSSpaceman SSSpliff

 

[klaze]

Did you get the error messages fixed 3t?

Klaze

 

[3tOwN]

Yeah, I just backed everything up and reformatted. She's running great now! Thanks for the help!

 

[klaze]

Anytime, glad to help when I can. Im a computer science major so that kind of thing is more or less my cup of joe.

Klaze

 

[3tOwN]

Klaze- Do you think LimeWire could be the problem in getting spyware so much? If so, you know of any other music downloaders that are clean?

-3t

 

[klaze]

Oh yes, LimWire is very bad. It comes chalk full of spyware and adware. Its how they offer it for it free. There really is no "safe" free mp3 downloading software. If you want to use a program to download Mp3 you could use LimeWire, but I would suggest using the free version of LimeWire to download a hacked copy of the pro version, which would normally cost money. This may sound odd, like stealing, but hey the music is free isnt it...hmmm. Just search for LimeWire Pro from the program search option, download and use.

But my suggestion would be not to use such programs, for the sake of your sanity and your poor computer. There is another method to download Mp3s, but it is quite time consuming. Basicly it envolves searching for Mp3s from Ftp sites, either through search engines using an Ftp only option or through a special Mp3 search engines. To utilize this method you will need to download an Ftp client, which can be found at www.download.com Find a high rated free one and download it. Then basicly look up the artist and album name on the search engine and connect to the Ftp sites that pop up with client, it will give a directory list you can navigate to try and find the particular song or album you want. Now the time consuminb part is the fact that alot of the sites will deny you access, or will require that you upload a song they dont have to download one song. It takes some searching but there are servers out there where you can freely download music from. Some even just require you to post to there forums...hmmmm.

Basicly no music is free, it either requires your time (alot some times) and sweat, or your computers blood and your tears. Hope this helps

Klaze

 

[haxixe]

Shareaza seems to work pretty well...

 

[3tOwN]

Thanks Klaze, I never thought of downloading the pro version of Limewire from the free ver. I'll give that a try, but I definitely gotta get some music back on this thing. Always a great help, thanks again.

Tonight I'll take some updated pics of the indoor project. The girls are really blowing up. I feel bad for turning this thread into a tech support line, hehe. Let's get back to the bud!

-3tOwN

 

[3tOwN]

Hey Folks! As promised here are a few updated pics of the Monster(s) in the closet...





More pics including the constructed dual 150 air cooled hood on the indoor thread, check it out!

Keep on keepin' on!

-3tOwN

 

[klaze]

Girls of beauty you have there, and an elegant way to return the topic to bud I might add.

Now for the begining of a never ending stream of questions....

I am really wanting to run an outdoor grow this year. There are a ton of things I am curious/need to know about. So I will start with the basics.
I am in the northwestern oregon area, which means I have the beautful cascades at my feet. When is the best time to get the plants into the ground? I would ideally like to get some seedlings rooted and ready to go, and so I am trying to plan a good timetable of events that should take place to ensure my success, or at least give me the best probiblity of success. The logistics of how the grow is to be set up is a tad bit clearer in my head than as to when it should all go down. Another thing, what sort of strain would be better, as I am a noob, as to give me a higher success rate? What strains do best in the cascades type climate? More than likely I will be running it on the east side of the cascades, as there are less people milling about there and I am much more familiar with that sort of environment which tends to be more pine tree populated and drier overall. All the help and guidance I can get will be much appreciated.

Thanks all
Klaze

 

[3tOwN]

BACKCOUNTRY and myself are sitting side by side reading this, and he is definitely the person to talk to when it comes to outdoor growing questions, and really any questions in general. Anyway, he says he'll be answering your questions when he gets home. Questions are always wecome!

More updates on the completed hood on the indoor thread!

-3t

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Hey klaze!

Thats some beautiful savage terrain up there!

As for a season time table? I will use the weather history for Sisters Oregon as a example, it is located on the east side of the mountains, at the edge of the desert. Click here to view the weather records for last year-> History and almanac for Sisters,OR

Looking at it, I can see that the final freezing temps of Spring occur in 4th week of June, making the last week your earliest starting time, and depending on the season, it may be later.

Looking at fall the other end of the season , I see the first freezing temps occur in the 3rd week of Sept, withen 2 weeks the light frosts turn into deep freezes in the 20s. The plants will survive several light frosts, but the could die in longer colder freezes.

So your season (assuming you are not planting too much higher than Sisters), will be about June 25th-Sept 20th. A tight schedule, but not impossible. You will need a Auto flower strain or a early Season strain.
A early Canadian strain would be awesome in that climate.

 

[klaze]

BC, thanks -
Interesting that it uses the roberts airfield in redmond, located about 20-30 miles away as the history.
That is nonetheless a tight schedule. It almost seems not long enough to work, but I will take your word for it. I will make an attempt at finding an elevation at the most the same as sisters, but maybe a tad lower. I know of some great spots to the south and east of sisters that are lower that would be awesome (hopefully). So I should probibly then have some good healthy starts ready to grow like mad by mid june. How big should I get them before letting them bear the wild wilderness? I ll start looking into early canadian strains and see what I can come up with. I guess I could also look to the west, as the weather is a tad more temperate. In choosing a spot, what do you recommend in terms of slope face? south, east, west, north? I know that the sun is hardest in the mid afternoon, and can get nice and hot so I would imagine that southerly facing slope, that could encompas the rise and fall of the sun, as the best, maybe helping to ward off early and late frosting. Im not sure on this though, suggestions?
Thanks again BC
Klaze

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Hmmm I didn't notice that Sisters doesn't have its own history records(oops), it does have a different weather forcast(from Redmond). So I would asume that the season may be even shorter than I estimated.

I'd start seeds by June 1st, They will be a foot or so tall by planting time.

Always look for a southern slope

Good luck man!

 

[klaze]

So I would asume that the season may be even shorter than I estimated.

Hmmmm.... Maybe I should rethink my location then? That whole desert area is pretty high in altitude making the growing season pretty close to what redmond is like, which is pretty damn short...I will definetly need to put my thinking cap on for this one....

foot tall seedlings....Ive seen a couple fairly ingenious ways of transporting the seedlings to the site. Such as dixie cups with no bottoms and the like. But foot tall seedlings will be difficult no? I want to get them into the area seemlessly, without much chance of being ID'd as cannabis. I should also probibly consider the survival rate will be lower than average...but i dont even know what average is for this type of grow...

*pondering intensly* Klaze

 

[haxixe]

Whoa... NW Oregon generally would mean low elevation, last frost probably in April, 1st in the fall, typically in early November. Right?

I've devised a great way to transport starts to the grow site. You carefully take the plants out of the containers they were grown in, shake most of the loose soil off the roots, then carefully pack them into a plastic snap lid container which will fit into a backpack. It sounds brutal I know but I've had good success doing it. 30 or so 200-300mm plants can be transported inconspicuously in a daypack using this technique. I can be more specific about how it's done, but that's it in a nutshell.

 

[Spaceman_Spliff]

Beautiful 3tOwN! How are they smelling so far? I'll be over to check out the other pics in a bit.

Klaze, You could slice a paper towel cardboard roll lengthwise and roll the foliage into that and tape it closed, kind of like how they send christmas trees home. Although I like Haxixe's method, you can relly transport a lot without the soil.

Here's some Valentines pics for you all .

Peace, SSSSpaceman SSSpliff

 

[3tOwN]

Hey Spaceman- They're definitely starting to take on an odor. Its noticeable when the plants are taken out or the cab door is open. The carbon filter seems to be doing the trick when the cab is closed up. Temperatures seem to be doing good with the addition of the new HPS and hood. We're running an average of probably 81-82 degrees when the lights are on, dipping down to 60-65.

-3t

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Whoa... NW Oregon generally would mean low elevation, last frost probably in April, 1st in the fall, typically in early November. Right?

Hey haxixe! In Oregon we generaly divide the state into 2 greater regions, east and west. Basicly the dividing line is the Cascades, east of the spine is east, and west of it is west. klaze lives in the west portion apperently, but he wants to go just to the east side of the Cascades, where it is alot quieter, and is very much high desert. West side: low and wet, East side:high and dry. Sisters Oregon is the first town of size on the east side of the ridge, between Eugene and Bend/Redmond, this is why I used it as a example.

I like your idea for transporting plants, I could get lots of plants hiked into the hills that way.
A matter of fact, I'll be doing a self-sustained grow just this side(west) of the Cascade ridge, in that beautiful mountain range. Found a great spot last Sept, when I was hiking up there.

klaze-A sibling of mine lives on the east side, and keeps trying to get me to move over there. If I did, I figured I would be forced to build a heated greenhouse, or grow indoors to get the kind of weed I like to use(long season strains).

It may be easier to find a spot this side of the ridge, but it is possible to do it there, just don't expect your plants to get to big, plus you will be very limited on the plants you can use. But it is possible.

 

[haxixe]

BC, I know it probably sounds a little dodgy, but I've had better than 90% success using it, only about 5% worse than I got hauling in boxes made special for transport filled with starts in keg cups which I did for years afraid of hurting my babies. This way is SO much better and safer. With a weekender type camping backpack, it's entirely possible to carry 60-70 probably more plants very inconspicuosly. I'd imagine with a external frame one could figure out how to carry 100-150 or more even, once most of the soil is shaken off they aren't very heavy.

The snap lid containers are widely available and inexpensive. Find some that fit nicely into your backpack. I can just squeeze two 12 litre ones together into a largeish day pack. I can even ride my mountain bike carrying them! Super stealth... Be careful putting the starts in, you have to make sure the leaves are folded up towards the top of the plant, they don't seem to like being bent the other way. Oh, and mist them down good before you go and keep the bottoms down the whole run.

I can't imagine a better way to haul plants around to one's site.


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