Please help save my grow!

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Hi all!!! The reason I'm making this thread is to get some help/feedback from some experienced growers. This is my first time growing a plant and I really want it to work out.

Lets start with the basics: the strain im growing is deep chunck x strawberry cough and is reported to be heavily indica dominant. I purchased the clone in rock wool and put it into a version of a rich soilmixture called the moonshine mix(theres a sticky about it in the organic thread). My mix basically is fox farms ocean forest, fox farms light warrior, black gold, chunky perlite, and a bit of coco. My plant is currently in a 5 gallon bucket, under 5 cfls, and has been growing for 2 and a half weeks. I haven't given it anything besides water with a ph level of 6.4 and a bit of kelp extract once.

The problem:When I first got the clone it had two big bottom fan leafs and a bit of growth starting above them. The two bottom fan leafs had a bit of browning on the ends of leaves, which has only gotten worst. The plant was growing really great at first, with the bottome leaves slowly turning more and more brown. Now one of the bottom leaves is completely yelow and dead and the other one is heading in its direction. Furthermore the new growth looks pretty good but the leaves seem kind of twisted and not natural and a few of the new leaves also have a bit of browning on the tips. Also the growth rate of my little girl has recently started to slow down.

So please icmag, help me save my baby!!

 

[Weedninja]

Can you take a runoff pH reading? What are you using to pH your tap water, or is 6.4 your tap pH?

Btw, we "earthlings" like to take pics with the subject straight ahead.

 

[mexilandrace]

that soil is too hot, and I suspect you have PH issues.

I would deal with the hot soil first.

That much soil for that small of a plant is well, umm, not needed.


dig her up repot in a very light non amended soil, water her really well till you get a decent amount of runoff.

or I don't know that doesn't look like a 5 gallon bucket to me in the picks, if it is smaller you just need to flush, but 5 gallons would be too much soil to flush for a plant that little.

you did add lime to your soil right?

 

[Barnt]

While a plant that size does not need 5 gallons of soil, it is not causing the problems.

By the wrinkles in the leaves it looks like the soil may be too hot? Clones can generally take 1/2 strength chemical fertalizers, but with organics mixed in the soil it should have no problem. If others have the same soil mix and aren't having problems, and you didn't add lime to your soil, then I would go with a mag def.

I've had mag def's that start off by yellowing the lower plant (looking kind of like a N def) but then moving upward in the veins. Your first and second pic shows yellowing in between the veins and canoeing of the blades which point to ----> Mg def.

Was there a lot of new growth after planting her which suddenly slowed/stopped when you noticed the problems? Mg defs always do that to me.

 

[Navigator330]

Your heat may be high, do you have ventilation? My babies looked like that when i was veggin with cfls in a closed box

 

[mexilandrace]

point of the 5 gallon mention was he doesn't want to flush that much soil for that small of a plant, had nothing to do with it causing problems

most all leave tips are burnt, coupled with the lower leaf issues, he is over doing it with the hot soil mix. Plus the PH issues that are likely

 

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now that I think about it the pot is prolly 3 gallons not 5. I have it in a wooden that gets kinda hot but nothing too extreme, theres a small desk fan in there and holes drilled in the box for airflow. So do you guys think I should just say late to this soil mix and stick the little girl in some straight ff ocean forest? If I was to try and keep it in this soil mix what should I do, flush the plant hardcore, add some organics nutes???

 

[mexilandrace]

how big is the plant?

 

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about a foot

 

[Barnt]

The two bottom fan leafs had a bit of browning on the ends of leaves, which has only gotten worst. The plant was growing really great at first, with the bottome leaves slowly turning more and more brown. Now one of the bottom leaves is completely yelow and dead and the other one is heading in its direction. Furthermore the new growth looks pretty good but the leaves seem kind of twisted and not natural and a few of the new leaves also have a bit of browning on the tips. Also the growth rate of my little girl has recently started to slow down.

I just re-read your post and now I am 100% convinced it is a mag def. If your soil was truly burning your plants, then you would have seen the damage you're seeing now on day one after planting. It would have never started to grow great, then slow down and show toxicity when you're only adding water.

Get yourself some Bottanicare Calmag+ and feed to 2 tsp per gallon (10mL). It'll take a few days, but growth will take off and they will begin to grow correctly again.

 

[mexilandrace]

if his soil is hot then adding water is pretty much exactly what would cause his plants to burn

A plant that size in that mix shouldn't have a deficiency

 

[Barnt]

While I'm not familiar with fox farm soils, I am familiar with fox farm nutrients (trio pack + supplements). Unless lime has been added to the soil (not sure if fox farm does this), there WILL be a mg def.

Also, to me it doesn't even look like over ferting, if anything it would be ph issues which I'd imagine fox farm sets the ph at a good level...

 

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well to clear it up theres been a bit of browning and twisted leaves since the beggining, nothing to severe but what alarmed my attention was the bottom fan leaves started dying fast and the growth has slowed down

 

[Weedninja]

Ok I'll tell ya....the reason why I asked about your pH, is that a major cause of fuckulated leaves is a pH issue. It can also be caused by Mg, so I was trying to rule Ph out. When I first looked at pic #1, It looked like nuteburn. But the other pics are telling me Mg, so I would recommend that you hit her with some organic food and either calmag or Epsom Salt.

 

[Skipload]

Maybe your plant is some what confused by the lighting, I am. Think of the leaf top surface, as solar panel surface, are they trying to grow towards several light sources? Are all the light sources below the top of the plant? If so you may want to place at least one flouro above the plant. If one already is, place them all above the plant. The fan leaf could be normal death. They do look like they are trying to dissipate heat. A small fan is recommended.

 

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I have one light directly above the plant and the other 4 are on the sides. and regarding ph the reason I know my ph is because I only feed voss water which has the ph of 6.4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voss_(water) cause I dont have a ph meter. Ima get some calmag tomorow and give it a watering, how much runoff am I supposed to be getting exactly? And with the calmag do I give it to it once and its cured or do I have to keep feeding all the way through flowering?

 

[Weedninja]

Do you use the still or sparkling Voss? The still has a very low mineral content, which would explain the Mg deficiency. The sparkling has a very high sodium content, which is just bad. It will be much cheaper in the long run to buy a pH meter.

You really don't want to have too much runoff, unless you're doing a pH test.

If you are going to keep using voss, you will have to use some cal-mag every time you water.

 

[SquallRealm]

You don't even need to buy a pH meter you can buy strips or a test drop kit at any pet store for $5.

Don't buy their pH up & down though it's not good for plants.

 

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Do you use the still or sparkling Voss? The still has a very low mineral content, which would explain the Mg deficiency. The sparkling has a very high sodium content, which is just bad. It will be much cheaper in the long run to buy a pH meter.

You really don't want to have too much runoff, unless you're doing a pH test.

If you are going to keep using voss, you will have to use some cal-mag every time you water.

Im using the still voss water and ima try and pickup a ph tester asap. I bought calmag today and fed her so hopefully it will help, how long until I can expect to see results. And if the plant isn't showing improvent in 5-7 days would it be wise to replant in some milder soil and give the plant some more calmag and some superthrive?

 

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someone please help, I know its still soon since watering but she hasnt shown any signs of improvement yet