Plant seeds indoors for 2022 outdoors.

[Creeperpark]

Planting a few seeds indoors for the 2022 outdoor season. I'm planting some short Brazilian Sativa indoors now and will transplant them outdoors after the last frost. I will sprout and grow them under a fluorescent light for about 30 or 40 days. My hope is that these plants stay short and fat like their mother. They should be perfect for a short low-profile plant that blends in well and still have a good yield. Anyone else getting ready?

 

[44:86N]

Got my Friesland Indicas going, but searching for good moms to take cuttings off of, it's a little early this far north. The clones will then be grown outdoors. Extras to be shared with friends!

 

[Hasselhoff1337]

Wish I lived in a climate that would allow me to plant something soon haha. Fingers itching

 

[JDubsocal]

I am about a week away from planting the seeds indoors for this years outdoor to give them a jumpstart. Then move them outside after daylight savings.

 

[Creeperpark]

Got my Friesland Indicas going, but searching for good moms to take cuttings off of, it's a little early this far north. The clones will then be grown outdoors. Extras to be shared with friends!

I saw those 10 Indica you planted and they looked good already. How are they doing?

 

[44:86N]

Hey! It's 12! Though one looks a little recessive.

They are coming along nicely. Will probably need a pot-up in 5 or 6 days.

That sounds like an interesting strain you're growing. How does she treat you?

What kind of tubes are you planning on running?

I've got mine under a ViparSpectra 600 watt a friend gave me (he don't smoke much anymore and I board his San Pedro collection for the winter). That things grows some stacked and packed vegetative plants.

 

[Creeperpark]

I had gotten one of the 1st old original White Widows from the old days and pollinated it and made seed. It was a last-ditch effort to save the genetics after 10 or 12 years of storage. It won't be the same as the original W W but the two different parents show themselves well. The two parents are Brazilian Sativa, the other is an Indian Hash plant. I made seeds from each parent and the Sativa's are very short and stocky. Here are some photos of parents. The Sativa is on a 1ft stool.

 

[Creeperpark]

Hey! It's 12! Though one looks a little recessive.

They are coming along nicely. Will probably need a pot-up in 5 or 6 days.

That sounds like an interesting strain you're growing. How does she treat you?

What kind of tubes are you planning on running?

I've got mine under a ViparSpectra 600 watt a friend gave me (he don't smoke much anymore and I board his San Pedro collection for the winter). That things grows some stacked and packed vegetative plants.

Growing under fluorescent lights and then going outdoors under the best light of all. SUNSHING

 

[f-e]

May 23rd the last likely frost here. I start on the 7th of Jan if I want to get up mums and flower a cut off each, for a smoke before deciding which to really concentrate on. That's not a typical year though. Last week in Feb is alright for known mums. That's a week to surface then 8 to get to a good size, say 20 cuts each. Giving me cuts mid May. Really the end of May and Early June is fine in central England. The ground is cold still late May, and a cold start stays with your plants for life. Though the ground won't be ideal until too late anyway, it's always a compromise.

I have 3 good outdoor plants, after decades of selection. They are too good to loose, so I keep them in veg year round. I have a month to order something new though. The selection process can never end. I have some semi's in the fridge to get rid of though, which are entirely different timing. Even the 1st of May can be too early, as they could flower mid June. That is the date though.

 

[Creeperpark]

May 23rd the last likely frost here. I start on the 7th of Jan if I want to get up mums and flower a cut off each, for a smoke before deciding which to really concentrate on. That's not a typical year though. Last week in Feb is alright for known mums. That's a week to surface then 8 to get to a good size, say 20 cuts each. Giving me cuts mid May. Really the end of May and Early June is fine in central England. The ground is cold still late May, and a cold start stays with your plants for life. Though the ground won't be ideal until too late anyway, it's always a compromise.

I have 3 good outdoor plants, after decades of selection. They are too good to loose, so I keep them in veg year round. I have a month to order something new though. The selection process can never end. I have some semi's in the fridge to get rid of though, which are entirely different timing. Even the 1st of May can be too early, as they could flower mid June. That is the date though.

It sounds like you don't have enough time for long flowering plants. In your case timing is super important because the window is so short.. How long do you have between frosts to grow outdoors. ?

 

[f-e]

It sounds like you don't have enough time for long flowering plants. In your case timing is super important because the window is so short.. How long do you have between frosts to grow outdoors. ?

Hey creeper
I let that latest frost date guide me, and have done for a long time. Global warming has realistically changed it now, but experience has taught me more about timing our plants, than local agricultural practices. It's wet in the UK. If you grow decent buds, they will probably rot away, long before they die of the cold. There are people that at the extreme, have plants out till November. For me a plant out in October is like keeping veg fresh in the fridge. I don't even like late September. About a week into September we start seeing temperatures drop below 10c at night. There is a taste change in the bud like calcium phosphate. Or, smoking bones. Not the chemical P taste, but the hard black ash and blandness of... well.. smoking bones. I would rather chop early, but on a good year can make it to about the 10th. Then little happens anyway, even if it is dry. Most tradition Dutch outdoor is a week into September. Any later being too late in our quite comparable climates. That last week you need early sun to dry off the dew that settles in the night. Poly-tunnels need to be wide open. It's damp in the UK.

My two main strains are a serious6, for some 6 foot bushes with monster heads, that must have good weather. Then Critical Sour, which is not so big, or so heavy. However it's abundance of smaller buds mean it often yields better, having chucked the big 6 colas away. So basically I do two plants, and the weather decides which is better.
Last year I put out the 11 roses fast version for a look. One pheno had failed indoors, looking like a stringy Sat at 12/12. Outdoor it liked the longer days. Proper buds, finished in August. I just managed to salvage the mum, who had been drying her rootball in the bathroom (ffs). So I'm looking forward to a proper run with that, not just a cut in a bad corner.

I tend to watch the UK forums for people doing a range of plants, to see them side by side, as the weeks go by. We are lucky the Dutch weather is so similar and we have people like Real Gorilla working here. You can see it in my choices. That strong Dutch connection. I miss my 'business trips' over there at the moment. Where I only smoke what I fly over there to consider buying. Though I'm drifting onto indoor with that. In the states such as Cali, watching what we do here has little meaning. Things like rain and mist. Wet feet from dew in early August. Clothing diaries listing weather conditions, times of day, number and type of layers and accessories, and how you felt marching in, then stood about for hours. We stood by a canal once, knowing it would be warmer and just as dry to jump in. Other times stopping to wring our socks out. PPE has become a serious issue, with welfare equipment as valid an expense as seeds or compost.

 

[Creeperpark]

Here's a first glance. It will be fun watching these plants for the next few weeks under fluorescent lights. I weigh them before watering to make sure I don't overwater. I hear a lot of people still talking about FoxFarm soils, so I bought a small bag of Ocean Forest to see what it's like these days. It's been years since I used it in the past. One thing I noticed is Ocean Forest weighs 50 grams less than Root Organic per solo cup. It will be interesting to see the difference between the two mixes in plant growth vs soil weight?

 

[wvkindbud38]

I don't really like to put anything outdoors before May 1st or so. Of course I like to start them indoors at least by March. But I seem to have better overall harvest if I don't try to rush them outdoors to early. Your gonna go through a lot of bad weather until it gets into May and your young plants will get drowned out with to much water and the colder temps make for difficult growing. So as long as you get them started for about a month and a half and get them healthy inside and get them out in May you'll do great. I've put plants out into late June and they did great. So for me it's more of a waste putting my plants out that early. I just kinda gauge the weather when I really decide to put them outdoors. I like to get a few weeks of good weather when I bring them outdoors to get acclimated and they will great.

 

[Jeezy]

Starting indoors then putting outdoors is very smart. Saves a bunch of veg time plus if you time it right they will start flowering once put outside if there big enough

 

[Creeperpark]

Starting indoors then putting outdoors is very smart. Saves a bunch of veg time plus if you time it right they will start flowering once put outside if there big enough

I have a nine-month growing season and that's a long time before flowering. I will first start getting flowers in Sept and finish in Nov. That is what makes this an interesting grow, having a long flowering Sativa strain.

 

[Creeperpark]

I don't really like to put anything outdoors before May 1st or so. Of course I like to start them indoors at least by March. But I seem to have better overall harvest if I don't try to rush them outdoors to early. Your gonna go through a lot of bad weather until it gets into May and your young plants will get drowned out with to much water and the colder temps make for difficult growing. So as long as you get them started for about a month and a half and get them healthy inside and get them out in May you'll do great. I've put plants out into late June and they did great. So for me it's more of a waste putting my plants out that early. I just kinda gauge the weather when I really decide to put them outdoors. I like to get a few weeks of good weather when I bring them outdoors to get acclimated and they will great.

You make a lot of really good points. I have lost plants from being overly eager due to hail damage and frost. Its heart breaking to walk up on your plant and find them wasteds from bad Weather. . My last frost date is March 15 and after that, I'm good to go. These plants are really used to getting 6 months of veg outdoors before flowering. They stay short and stocky and take a long growing season. The Mom was from Brazil. I'm running six seeds so I hope for 1or at least 2 females for research. Thanks for sharing.

 

[44:86N]

My last frost date is March 15 and after that, I'm good to go./QUOTE]

Hey Creeper, keep an eye on the La Nina/El Nino status if you can. That seems to have a big effect on the NA Continent's weather -- this year is a double La Nina, so it will be somewhat similar to last winter/spring. The storm tracks are swinging south again. This is the second year in a row that I have seen pitiful snow cover up here. It's dry.

Watch out for that next El Nino. He's gonna be a real bastard.

(yes, I am a weather geek)

 

[wvkindbud38]

Yea a lot of it depends on your region and knowing your weather and area your growing in, strains your growing etx. The last 5-6yrs I've grew a lot of different strains and had plants I can tend to daily and a few guerilla patches I go to 1-2 times a week. I usually grow in 5 to 30gallon pots or grow bags. I've had 50-75 female plants in that time period each season. But this season I'm probably gonna do around 10 plants in larger containers, probably around 50gallon containers. And probably 5-10plants in my guerilla patch. I usually grow a lot of different strains from seed but will probably go with just a couple of different strains this season. I'm gonna go with mostly the tried and proven stuff this season. But I'm sure I'll try some different strains also as I like to grow a variety. I'm kinda on hold with indoor growing as I'm finishing up some legal issues from last year and can't really chance growing more than a plant or so indoors at this time sadly. Good luck guys hopefully everyone has a good outdoor season!!

 

[Creeperpark]

My last frost date is March 15 and after that, I'm good to go./QUOTE]

Hey Creeper, keep an eye on the La Nina/El Nino status if you can. That seems to have a big effect on the NA Continent's weather -- this year is a double La Nina, so it will be somewhat similar to last winter/spring. The storm tracks are swinging south again. This is the second year in a row that I have seen pitiful snow cover up here. It's dry.

Watch out for that next El Nino. He's gonna be a real bastard.

(yes, I am a weather geek)

You have to be a weather geek to stay ahead of the game. I'm in a drought now and have only 3 gallons of rainwater left. I guess I will use that for the 6 dixie cups for now. I will have to go to RO until the rain buckets are full again. I watered all my outdoor vegetation the last 2 two days to keep everything from dying. I have some pecan trees suffering from not getting enough water. I put soaker hoses on them but it takes a lot of water Keeping my fingers crossed for Spring rains.

 

[Creeperpark]

Yea a lot of it depends on your region and knowing your weather and area your growing in, strains your growing etx. The last 5-6yrs I've grew a lot of different strains and had plants I can tend to daily and a few guerilla patches I go to 1-2 times a week. I usually grow in 5 to 30gallon pots or grow bags. I've had 50-75 female plants in that time period each season. But this season I'm probably gonna do around 10 plants in larger containers, probably around 50gallon containers. And probably 5-10plants in my guerilla patch. I usually grow a lot of different strains from seed but will probably go with just a couple of different strains this season. I'm gonna go with mostly the tried and proven stuff this season. But I'm sure I'll try some different strains also as I like to grow a variety. I'm kinda on hold with indoor growing as I'm finishing up some legal issues from last year and can't really chance growing more than a plant or so indoors at this time sadly. Good luck guys hopefully everyone has a good outdoor season!!

Wv do you use grow bags on your guerilla patches? Don't take any chances because everything has its season.