Pine Tar Gush F3 grow along.

[VerdantGreen]

hey @Jahaze they both look amazing ! - i'm a bit gutted that i have no PTG left in my jars for Christmas.. it would make a good festive smoke that's for sure... great to hear the pine is still going strong in your cured buds.
Really appreciating your attention to detail on these test grows - i was happy after your first rounds and think you did a good job, but the way you have got across the needs of the plants in the second runs has really impressed me. I think you are one of the best growers i have come across and you are also good at observation and documenting - i guess those two things go hand in hand. (and this is coming from someone who has a fairly high opinion of his own skills and is not easily impressed ! )
much respect and thanks
VG

 

[EastCoastGambit]

Does anyone carry these seeds in the US?

 

[PerroVerde]

Love the Pine Tar Kush , been having the pleasure of growing her and smoking her a few years now and she definitely makes amazing crosses. Great job @VerdantGreen @Tonygreen

 

[EastCoastGambit]

Damn, I may have had a keeper of '79 X Mas Bud which someone said might also be PTK with a different name. 2 plants were really squat but one grew taller, branchier and was very frosty. Maybe it was kind of special/rare and I should have grabbed a clone? While the structure was great it didn't seem as "piney" as I wanted and reminded me a bit of what I had just grown which was Romulan and Skywalker OG. It was still piney though - just not different, has that sweet citrus mixed with pine. Oh well - too late now.

Sorry not trying to hijack your thread. Beautiful work though @VerdantGreen and @Jahaze!

 

[VerdantGreen]

Thanks @PerroVerde - I loved the PTK too, this cross with the GB has kept all the pine funk and the 'fuel' element coming from the GB seems to amplify the pine scent and really bring it to life even more. Also the potency and yield are higher and more in line with modern hybrids, with an easier growth habit.

thanks @EastCoastGambit - i think Christmas Tree bud is a different line. I remember Nspecta checking in to my PTK grow a while back when i was doing the repro and saying that i had 'real' PTK and talking about someone else growing Christmas tree bud and passing it off as PTK. i'm not sure what the difference is though lol.
I'm bound to say this, but if you looking for pine... you really should try the PTG
this was the seed mother of about 40% of the F3 seeds - even TomHill himself was impressed with this pic !

VG

 

[PerroVerde]

ok so the Christmas tree bud and the PTK Repros done by Nspecta happened because FarmerJoe420 tricked haze man in a trade, he sent him Christmas tree bud labeled PTK and when Nspecta started to do them FarmerJoe420 called out haze man saying he didn't have the PTK. Then FarmerJoe420 didn't realize that Hazeman had saved all the messages between them and called out FamerJoe420 for tricking him and then trying to make him look like he was full of shit.
Then that's when Nspectas started the repros fo the 79 XMAS bud that came from NDNGuy the same source as the 88G13/HP that lots of people are currently using in their seed making programs (Bodhi is the one who really made it famous) @VerdantGreen @EastCoastGambit

 

[PerroVerde]

@EastCoastGambit nspecta took out the haze man seed that was LABELED PTK out of the repro room and moved them to another spot to continue and gather more seed stock for the 79 XMAS bud repro

 

[EastCoastGambit]

ok so the Christmas tree bud and the PTK Repros done by Nspecta happened because FarmerJoe420 tricked haze man in a trade, he sent him Christmas tree bud labeled PTK and when Nspecta started to do them FarmerJoe420 called out haze man saying he didn't have the PTK. Then FarmerJoe420 didn't realize that Hazeman had saved all the messages between them and called out FamerJoe420 for tricking him and then trying to make him look like he was full of shit.
Then that's when Nspectas started the repros fo the 79 XMAS bud that came from NDNGuy the same source as the 88G13/HP that lots of people are currently using in their seed making programs (Bodhi is the one who really made it famous) @VerdantGreen @EastCoastGambit

That clears it up albeit a little confusing. So someone had passed off X Mas bud as PTK and not the other way around. They seem to have similar traits but maybe the PTK someone thought they were growing was actually XMAS bus and that is why.

 

[RobFromTX]

My ptg's are the most squat plants ive ever grown. They are literally stretching outward instead of growing upward. But i expect great things from the pics i see hear. Beautiful colors abound

 

[PerroVerde]

That clears it up albeit a little confusing. So someone had passed off X Mas bud as PTK and not the other way around. They seem to have similar traits but maybe the PTK someone thought they were growing was actually XMAS bus and that is why.

FarmerJoe420 was doing a classic bait and switch with his seeds when he sold them to Hazeman and then tried to call him out as a liar. Lucky for hazeman he saved all the messages between them and was able to call out FarmerJoe420 for being shady and selling fake PTK seeds.
79 XMAS bud is legit as he received them from NDNguy and NDNguy has confirmed that.

im sorry to take this thread to another topic but I just thought I would clarify since I knew what happened when it happened.

 

[PerroVerde]

some of this seasons outdoor Pine Tar Kush harvested Oct 30th

 

[RobFromTX]

Most of my ptg's are short and squat like pic1. The fastest growing is pic2. Fascinating leaf patterns

 

[VerdantGreen]

thanks rob, looking happy, early days but the plant on the right looks promising...
VG

 

[RobFromTX]

thanks rob, looking happy, early days but the plant on the right looks promising...
VG

Would you say that the one on the left isnt worth keeping? I figured that for a ptk pheno. Its definitely a slow grower

 

[VerdantGreen]

Would you say that the one on the left isnt worth keeping? I figured that for a ptk pheno. Its definitely a slow grower

It could be a PTK leaner but also the Gorilla bubble has sour bubble outcross which looks similar... Unless you short of space then i would always flower them out as thats the only way you know what you've got for sure... if it is slow then probably best not to top it.. but i guess if you have to select down the number of plants then it would be one to consider culling. The smaller phenos of PTG i had were still lovely smoke.
VG

 

[Jahaze]

last of the ptg f3s for now. just at week 9. i wanted to let her finish over the next week but getting guests for the holidays and dont want to trim with them in the house. I have one more clone to run but its gonna have to wait for another rotation. anyway here is #2 with more resin than before and from underneath she looks completely silver. just caked on resin sparkling as the light hits it and smells so pungent of pine, gas, metal and this time a sweetness that i hadn't detected before. looking forward to this one. btw VG, you were right, its near impossible to put these down once you start smoking. very enjoyable smoke.

 

[VerdantGreen]

Looking good @Jahaze - with this one, at least if your guests smell it you can tell them it's the Christmas tree and the fumes from the chainsaw you cut it down with !
VG

 

[RobFromTX]

These strains are turning into bushy fat cats. The PTK was lagging behind but i must say they caught up quite fast. VG when would you say is good time to throw them into flower? Some are close to 2ft

 

[VerdantGreen]

hi @RobFromTX i think they are big enough to flower for sure... looking good!

 

[shivaling66]

Am so glad i found this diary as I've five PTKs about to go into flower and it’s my first run of them. Outstanding grow very inspired.