~PIFF~ A.K.A. Uptown Haze/Frankies/Church. Preserving a Heritage...

[Piff_cat]

thanks ..interesting..I sent him cbh selfed seed..the sawa sounds interesting.

the first photo looks more like the s1 cut I kept..

I culled more meaty more resinous more potent s1’s due to too much sedation for me..

I even found Ohz,Panama,BH7 too sedating..haha..

I grow for my head only and want almost zero sedation



those are sure beautiful photo's

thanks again



ps

I have rooted cuts of

the one Uptown Haze pheno loved ..I hope I chose the same one..

its had big non sedation a and high euphoria possibilities

me myself i like the brown haze types too.
between the piff clones 2 main profiles are brown(piff s1/s2 uptown brown) myrcene/ocimene/carolyphene
and black(cbh/bandaid) myrcene/ocimene/pinene the ocimene level is single most important trait in haze and it co occurs with high cbga levels which lead to reduced occular pressure.
, cbc and cbt are rare in high levels like those found in nyc haze coming from the A male. for euphoria. ocimene is an uplifting stimulant phermone but cbc and cbt produce the bliss molecule "andramine . different effect from thc more acting on the mushroom.molly type seratoinin boost.
id rather use a different outcross then sawa but the blood male trait is cool.
you could find something in there and then put it to your uplifitng clone
too see what shakes loose. one way of cutting down on drowsy is to limit myrcene content. after about .5 myrcene gives you bad couch lock. even tho its usually highest level in piff it seems to be influenced by the grower. this grower below from piffcon2 was somehow able to reduce myrcene from 1.0 down to .4 and increase ocimene from .1 to .24. a good trade for sure

very good brown piff s2 profile here. ocimene levels in haze A progeny start at around .1(ft collins cough) all the way up to .39(stone guru silk s)

 

[Piff_cat]

On the 28 hyp3rids will release their version of cuban black haze and has anyone bought that nh23 x kariba Diesel f2 from ojd of connoisseur genetics?
Fuck man everyone wants 100 -130 for the packs. I was tempted to buy the connoisseur genetics with 4 free packs of my choice so 60 seeds total fir 125 ish then the hyp3rids sounds good at 30 seeds for 100 plus shipping but as usual I can't afford them I can't grow shit outside this year anyway probably most will die
I have plenty of seeds I won't run out I can keep planting until weather allows me but they aren't the seeds I want I would love to have a huge bag of seeds I do want versus the weak shit I got right now

This year has been a shit show from mid June till now 104 to 110 every fucking day with seedlings dying fast and big plants burning or overwatered dead god damn it stunted growth bugs in soil shitty soil you name it
My biggest plant turned Male fucking asshole

heres a pic found of the kariba used in dankincense. this is from bushweed gallery. he documented the entire grail project until nev and kanga fell out. starting in 2010 with grail thead when nevil started posting on mns and a piece of shit japanfreak trolled him til he left. starts with the idea of putting lowland thai to the haze male progeny in order to increase the desirable haze A phenos. even tho haze A only makes up 25 percent of nevils haze nev said the best incense/spicy archaetype were haze A phenos. he sought to find these traits in thai landraces(he did) settling on hempys 78 tia for the outcross finalist.

and this is the nh23 female from dankincense or franken fuel as nev called sometimes.

nh23 female put to the kariba was also used with a sk1/mullum male which is the hybrid described

 

[ojd]

heres a pic found of the kariba used in dankincense. this is from bushweed gallery. he documented the entire grail project until nev and kanga fell out. starting in 2010 with grail thead when nevil started posting on mns and a piece of shit japanfreak trolled him til he left. starts with the idea of putting lowland thai to the haze male progeny in order to increase the desirable haze A phenos. even tho haze A only makes up 25 percent of nevils haze nev said the best incense/spicy archaetype were haze A phenos. he sought to find these traits in thai landraces(he did) settling on hempys 78 tia for the outcross finalist.
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and this is the nh23 female from dankincense or franken fuel as nev called sometimes.

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nh23 female put to the kariba was also used with a sk1/mullum male which is the hybrid described

I've never read it called Dankincense ever ? , I thought of that name myself for my NH23 xKariba hybrid, would be cool if we both thought of the same name.

I know you have read alot into Nevils work so have you got a quote where he ever called it Dankincense ? , just wondering , Frankenfuel what was I read Nevil called it , although my pack Nevil made just had NH23 x Kariba written on it , seeds came from brother Sim RIP ( love ya bro , you helped get these Nevil Genetics out there in a big way and i hope your smoking Haze Hash with Nevil up there )who got them from British Hempire who was friends with Nevil and had planned to do a European Seed project with Nevil that didn't pan out.

 

[Piff_cat]

I've never read it called Dankincense ever ? , I thought of that name myself for my NH23 xKariba hybrid, would be cool if we both thought of the same name.

I know you have read alot into Nevils work so have you got a quote where he ever called it Dankincense ? , just wondering , Frankenfuel what was I read Nevil called it , although my pack Nevil made just had NH23 x Kariba written on it , seeds came from brother Sim RIP ( love ya bro , you helped get these Nevil Genetics out there in a big way and i hope your smoking Haze Hash with Nevil up there )who got them from British Hempire who was friends with Nevil and had planned to do a European Seed project with Nevil that didn't pan out.

I just said dankincense as name for nh23x karibafrom the post before but may have misunderstood
. I read nev called nh23 x kariba frankenfuel during an update from bushweed or kanga after nev stopped posting. The post was about finding the frankincense trait very strong in the kariba plants.

Then I found the description of nh23 on breedbay nevs new seedlines reviews were posted on there in like 2012.

The pic of nh23 comes from old-school breeder association which sells nh23 x (skunk1 x mm) . I'm sure they aren't f1 but I like the pic no serrations heavy resin looks like.

Great job with all the nevil legacy stuff I think your making a great job getting these genetics to the people.

He'd be very happy to know this
so fucked up how ppl ignore contribution from king of cannabis

 

[Piff_cat]

I found one of the pedigree lists nev did posted by raho

 

[gmanwho]

Was able to score this cut. Believe it is from piffcoast farms. Labeled Metallic Frankencense , said nl5xhaze. said a 65-70 day.

Trying to learn abit more on the background.

Pictures just after a much needed transplant and was abit to close to the leds.

 

[shishkaboy]

Looks a lot like the one I got at piffcon…




Piffcon video

I’m in the background at 11:16 in

 

[goingrey]

Looks a lot like the one I got at piffcon…




Piffcon video

I’m in the background at 11:16 in

How come no one at Piffcon seems to be high lol?

 

[gmanwho]

Looks a lot like the one I got at piffcon…




Piffcon video

I’m in the background at 11:16 in

Yes, was said to be the piffconn 2023 winner. but i dont know for sure

i couldn't figure out who placed and with what on the piffconn ig feed, other then the test results.

Did you sample then, or flower it out since?

Thoughts etc etc.... thanks for responding!!

 

[ojd]

Looks a lot like the one I got at piffcon…




Piffcon video

I’m in the background at 11:16 in

Did you sample any special Haze flowers or extracts at Piffcon ? , if so from who.

I was honestly shocked I didn't hear more about Special Haze flowers at the show , i not heard no bad talk at all but thought I would of heard alot more praise of flowers/extracts sampled

 

[bigherb]

Ojd

I was hoping to meet you and here your thoughts as well as taste your selections and preferences

It be interesting to hear Unc Yosemite Sams opinions on some of his standouts . During our Convo I think he was impressed with some of the Old NYC Haze clones

We all have our own preferences here’s mine

My A Category favorites

Words - Limonana Haze - I think oldpro Lou stock

Soo dope farms - Harlem 21

Phenotek- black A5 Piff

Lobster fam farms - Pc3


My B category Favorites

Nelly farms - Cuban black Haze - OG original cut

Ed farms - silver haze

Root seller - Fort Collins cough

Sugar shack extracts - violet haze #5


Others that deserve mention not entered in the competition

Bronson farms - Panama Haze

Miami piff - 305 Haze

The piffcon IG page was never updated with Winners , that was deserving and I believe would have opened a platform for further discussion about what was Special


1luvbigherb

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

Greetings haze heads.
Happy to see the conversation never ended.

Been back at it fully... got some things coming down the line. Doing work with the Cuban Black Haze. Some reversals and pollen collecting. Popping S1s looking for.... something else.

Sifted through a few things like PC3, Tres Haze, and CBH. Copped a few packs from Piff Coast. Salute to that man for putting in the work. Definate fire has been preserved and this truly makes me happy.

There were many cuts being sold on the block throughout the relavent time period regarding PIFF. Everyone will have thier opinion on what true PIFF is based on their experience with it.

The Cuban Black Haze cut is blockwork PIFF. (shout out to asher!!! thank you!!) I bought and sold pounds of it. I believe the variation of flower time, skill of cultivator, method of storage, and age of the final product has caused many to believe there are more cultivars involved than there actually were.

Things are obviously all different now... There's a haze competition!! See you all there at the next one. I'll have some oirganic gringo grown 120 day CBH to throw down. Can't wait to meet all you haze heads and talk HAZE! I was late to come out of hiding.... lol

The block wants Runtz now anyway! lmao!!! Until they fuck with the "FINAL PRESERVATION HAZE". My life and experience with this special variety all sewn up in a seed. Stay tuned.

 

[goingrey]

The block wants Runtz now anyway! lmao!!! Until they fuck with the "FINAL PRESERVATION HAZE". My life and experience with this special variety all sewn up in a seed. Stay tuned.

Runtz, really? That's the big thing still in 2023? Final preservation Haze from you, interesting, you've certainly raised awareness about it more than maybe anyone. So expectations are high (no pressure lol).

 

[ojd]

Ojd

I was hoping to meet you and here your thoughts as well as taste your selections and preferences

It be interesting to hear Unc Yosemite Sams opinions on some of his standouts . During our Convo I think he was impressed with some of the Old NYC Haze clones

We all have our own preferences here’s mine

My A Category favorites

Words - Limonana Haze - I think oldpro Lou stock

Soo dope farms - Harlem 21

Phenotek- black A5 Piff

Lobster fam farms - Pc3


My B category Favorites

Nelly farms - Cuban black Haze - OG original cut

Ed farms - silver haze

Root seller - Fort Collins cough

Sugar shack extracts - violet haze #5


Others that deserve mention not entered in the competition

Bronson farms - Panama Haze

Miami piff - 305 Haze

The piffcon IG page was never updated with Winners , that was deserving and I believe would have opened a platform for further discussion about what was Special


1luvbigherb

Yeah I was hoping to attend and even enter but didn't work out , would of been cool to talk Haze with you and see what your best things you found at event or you had.

100% I want to enter next year and if I can't attend ( maybe refused entry and visa) my mate who is running Connoisseur Genetics USA will be there with a stand and my flowers for people to sample and the full Haze seed range I offer .

I really want to sample some of these USA Haze cuts people talk about so if I'm denied entry into USA next cup my mate will try get samples of flowers for me of vendors or anyone offering good Haze flower/extract to purchase at the show and send me the samples to try.

Looked a cool Haze gathering the Piffcon event and I'd defo love to be there amongst my Haze brothers sampling and sharing my samples also

 

[420empire]

We deff need to make haze and piff great again!
Was at the Canna expo in Copenhagen, Everything was freakin a mix of different cookies !!! I do like a good cookie but it's boring when Everything is the same ahhh.

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

goingrey - No pressure at all. I quite literally live for this shit. I know exactly what I'm looking for. I appreciate you.

ojd - I can get your mans some samples. I'm dealing with a simular situation with Spannabis... not sure they wanna let me in.

420empire - Haze and Piff have always been great. if you know, you know.

I have some CBH coming down next week at 120. Just like every other strain I've grown, the magic happens in that last leg... so much is lost when she is pulled early. She's like a totally different plant taken early. She is a true beast. Huge colas. I see why those Cubans ran her so hard for so long... shes special. I'll put up some pics soon.

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

a little blurry. I'll get better ones.
This is about 114 days...

 

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

 

[rolandomota]

@ojd we can just sneak you in to usa from Mexico or even easier from Canada. Or you can make a legal asylum claim
Here's my secret recipe that some of you have probably thought of already.....you ready?.... killer 5 Haze x Dankincense. Because it's not the weeds fault if you catch my drift

 

[shishkaboy]

Yes, was said to be the piffconn 2023 winner. but i dont know for sure

i couldn't figure out who placed and with what on the piffconn ig feed, other then the test results.

Did you sample then, or flower it out since?

Thoughts etc etc.... thanks for responding!!

Ohhh, So you got something different. I didnt get any of the winners. I just picked up the pc3 (piff S2) since I would get it legit from the source.

I saw the sawtooth on your leaves and couldnt help but notice the similarity and when you said it came from piffcon i jumped to conclusions...

Either way please keep me posted on how shes performing for you.

I got to sample something in a session with a few guys at piffcon that was memorable. But not sure if it was an entry even tho...