~PIFF~ A.K.A. Uptown Haze/Frankies/Church. Preserving a Heritage...

[dramamine]

Be carefull, my clones from Ben's Nursery came with spider mites.

Same.

 

[flylowgethigh]

I was reading this thread from the beginning with ArtofMakingFire. Looks like he had the golden cut from the golden bean. I hate how his life took a bad turn and he lost it.

Is the PCF seed line making those? Wow, what a new world where we can grow these legendary strains from available seed. Sorta.

 

[led05]

DurLumbo - As Piffy as it gets, some are just pure full blown Frankies more than anything I’ve ever tried

SMC/Durban x SMG

IMHO - Piff comes from a Colombian & African blend, im near certain of this…

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

lookin’ good led…….

 

[led05]

^^ everyone has different explanations of precursor smells to Frankie’s smoke; imo it’s stinky gym shoes, cotton candy & mothballs - like a musky sickly sweet odor, funky basement is just a piece of it….

But there’s no mistaking that Orthodox Church smell; it’s all Frankies in the end…

Peace

 

[led05]

lookin’ good led…….

TY - very early tester, the variety of high end temple like incense & frankincense you get from this cross is special… about half are full blown Frankies

The musky basement terps / odors imo are present in both Lumbo & Africans but stronger in the Africans

Peace

 

[Mtn. Nectar]

that incense ….old school scent that permeated homes in the 70’s….
ganj on…..

 

[OldCoolSativa]

Everyone knows that big herb has been the keeper of the piff legend since way back. I know he was a judge at Piffcon but I’ve never seen him post anything about how today’s piff compares to the stuff he remembers.

 

[sushi]

Have been reading these piff/church threads for so many years now. Back in 99 I was given two clones, one was blueberry and one was NL5xHaze. Not sure of the source of these. The NL5xHaze was some of the best weed I've ever grown or smoked. It smelled very much like cedar incense. When smoking it the room was filled with a powerful incense aroma that hung in the air for ages. On more than one occasion a friend would stop by and thought I was burning incense. Ive never had NYC haze/piff/church/whatever but a lot of the descriptions from people sure sound very similar to the NL5xHaze. I've never seen anything like it since.

 

[Nobody's Nursery]

 

[PiffCoastFarms]

Have been reading these piff/church threads for so many years now. Back in 99 I was given two clones, one was blueberry and one was NL5xHaze. Not sure of the source of these. The NL5xHaze was some of the best weed I've ever grown or smoked. It smelled very much like cedar incense. When smoking it the room was filled with a powerful incense aroma that hung in the air for ages. On more than one occasion a friend would stop by and thought I was burning incense. Ive never had NYC haze/piff/church/whatever but a lot of the descriptions from people sure sound very similar to the NL5xHaze. I've never seen anything like it since.

Makes sense!! Piff is supposed to be nl5hz. That smell is unmistakable and unforgettable. Sounds to me like that’s what you were growing!! Now you know what all the fuss is over, ha

 

[sushi]

What can add about the cut I once had. I took it half of it at 10 weeks and the other half at 12 weeks the first time. The 12 was better but the 10 was no joke. It was my second grow I think and I had mites and the two flowering nl5xhaze out produced the other 6 plants together. So I don't find it hard to see commercial growers loving it. It cloned easily and grew super fast.

 

[led05]

. The 12 was better but the 10 was no joke. It was my second grow I think and I had mites and the two flowering nl5xhaze out produced the other 6 plants together. So I don't find it hard to see commercial growers loving it. It cloned easily and grew super fast.

back before every cookie & dessert were related to each other ….. well they had this thing called Hybrid Vigor

 

[Nobody's Nursery]

This is a Metallic Frankincense pheno from Doc D's NL5 haze work.

imo the frankincense comes from a5 and the metallic part comes from haze c. It's the right recombinations of the two that puts out the metallic frankincense smell in the progeny.
The a5 alone has more of a woody liver smell but when you blend it with haze c it take on some sweetness and turns to metallic frankincense.

 

[yesum]

Seems getting the smell down is not that hard, the high being the hard part to reproduce. For me the high is about all I care about. The taste or smell is just a bonus.

From what I gathered, this strain at it's best, was on the verge of being another drug experience other than just cannabis. Hard to say, as I am sure there was fake piff and variations going around. Plus different people having different results.

 

[Llano_oasis]

My second run of piff coast farms audubon purple(Audubon gold haze x harlem dreams) very insennce forward with hints of leather and chocolate on the first run, this one is shaping up to be even better. Absolutely unique smoke and effect, stands alone in my stable of jars.

 

[Llano_oasis]

First run, my first smoke every day now. This next run already looks better.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

^^ everyone has different explanations of precursor smells to Frankie’s smoke; imo it’s stinky gym shoes, cotton candy & mothballs - like a musky sickly sweet odor, funky basement is just a piece of it….

But there’s no mistaking that Orthodox Church smell; it’s all Frankies in the end…

Peace

The frankincense we used to get here was all red brown and dark gold...the actual finished bud used to smell of pure frankincense and this weird hospital antiseptic like scent....sandlewoods, camphor and other scents came from different ones but the frankincense was all frankincense....its like the all the bud had been dunked in something....when you smoked that all the vapours would go in your sinuses and coat all your throat.....the sandalwood one was even stronger in taste and would have an almost lavender camphor type aggressive bite that would almost hurt your throat and nose it was that strong...that was a lighter shade of gold...with that you could only put small amount in the joint as the taste was to aggressive...id like to see some try to smoke a blunt of that raw, probably end up shredding the throat....the high was ridiculously aggressive too...is that what you guys are getting over there...cus thats what I know as the proper frankincense and sandlewood haze.. nowadays people get some faint incense smell wen they burn it an ive seen lots of people say ive got the frankincense..but the actual bud smells of something else and its all faint..it aint really the proper stuff....we had another one the bud smelled all chemical cleaner type of like fairy liquid or what you guys call dish washing liquid, and all musky incensey and mossy.....I could go on....none of them are easily found now round this side of the world...hopefully you guys are swimming in it...

 

[Piff_cat]

Doing the best I can with what I got I’m not sure why people are still stuck up on the piff s2s as that was one of my first drops years ago. I’ve done a black haze reversal since then and found the Harlem dreams through that breeding then did a Harlem dreams reversal and made and am finding a bunch even more cool stuff now. Got the flowering time down while retaining the piffy incense smell that’s left in the air while you smoke it and added some bag appeal. Every generation just keeps coming out better and i was never able to find any genetics like this in the 10+ years I was growing and buying haze seeds looking for it before I got the clone so wether I’m perfect or not I like to think I’ve done more good than harm in preserving and sharing of these genetics within the community

Man don't listen to the haters especially hempy. You've done more for the home growing community then any other person this decade and second only to nevil big picture.
Your not the first to have the cuts you are the first to let them free. Without you we would all be bumping around in the dark arguing over which line may have piff phenos etc. Not only have you released the clones,selfed clones, and outcrosses you released very useful and detailed test results of terpenes and cannabinoids. This info is priceless and puts a face to the mythical piff.

Maybe it's a culture thing for us east coasters or maybe it's just because the boards are full of haters. Just keep doin you. Put alot of good piff karma out there.
Also piffs2 Is nothing to be trifled with. Still the best smelling bud I've ever grown and it was released to give the public a piece of piff before you could let the f1s out. Here's some piffs2 x (old timers x tom hill) incredible vigor many blood red stem these were only germinated last week.

 

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