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Phylos Bioscience sparks outrage after announcing their beginning their own breeding

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Frylock

Bob Marley?? LOL

I can't remember who the guy was but he wasn't Bob Marley :biglaugh:
 
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Frylock

I thought it was weird the guy that posted video had the Bob Marley image for the other guy's song :)

:bigeye::good::whee:
 

CaptainDankness

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Did anyone really think Phlyos was really going to look after the little guy?

But now that a lot of people gave them DNA of all the greatest plants, well makes it really easy for them to make GMO plants using CRISPR that will probably be better than anything we are growing now.

Kind of exiting honestly, a little fucked up sure, but it was bound to happen. I'm kind of against the whole GMO cannabis thing but at the same time I want to see what these mad scientists can do.

I know the way Sam talked about CRISPR a while back it doesn't sound too bad. Of course he didn't call it GMO. Lol, if it takes a lab to genetically modify a plant or animal it's GMO. Of course with CRISPR it would only be genes within the cannabis, so if done properly it could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Possibilities are endless really, they might be able to do a haze that's actually done in 6 weeks and yields twice as much as Big Bud.

Fuck it, I'd like to see if they can really blow our current strains away. Worst case scenario I have plenty of seeds and it's going to be a little while before all the small breeders are forced to retire, the big guys will probably hold out a little while Mr. Nice, Sensi, etc.

One thing for sure is all the bandwagon followers will jump on GMO cannabis if they can actually make it better than our clone only. Probably going to take a few years anyways.
 

zif

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^ Nah, their breeding is going to be worse than their marketing / public relations. Nothing to fear, or even secretly look forward to.

*assuming they can even stay afloat.
 

CaptainDankness

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^ Nah, their breeding is going to be worse than their marketing / public relations. Nothing to fear, or even secretly look forward to.

*assuming they can even stay afloat.
If they can somehow make GG#4 look like schwag they won't have any problems. Of course I find it hard to believe that anyone can make a strain that's a lot better than GG#4. Though in the 70's they probably didn't even see weed getting this good. Just pictures from a cannabis cup way back it all looked like trash pretty much why Skunk is in almost everything these days.
 

englishrick

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There is another level of breeding we haven't seen yet,,,pure line chemotypes, homozygous lines with super stable terp production ,, variation from mutation,, im guessing synthetic seeds will become big in the future too,,, we definitely have room for improvement and different forms of standardisation,,

I guess we all feel bad for work that we won't get anything for,, but I guess smoke is smoke,, it all burns
 

slownickel

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Did anyone really think Phlyos was really going to look after the little guy?

But now that a lot of people gave them DNA of all the greatest plants, well makes it really easy for them to make GMO plants using CRISPR that will probably be better than anything we are growing now.

Kind of exiting honestly, a little fucked up sure, but it was bound to happen. I'm kind of against the whole GMO cannabis thing but at the same time I want to see what these mad scientists can do.

I know the way Sam talked about CRISPR a while back it doesn't sound too bad. Of course he didn't call it GMO. Lol, if it takes a lab to genetically modify a plant or animal it's GMO. Of course with CRISPR it would only be genes within the cannabis, so if done properly it could be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Possibilities are endless really, they might be able to do a haze that's actually done in 6 weeks and yields twice as much as Big Bud.

Fuck it, I'd like to see if they can really blow our current strains away. Worst case scenario I have plenty of seeds and it's going to be a little while before all the small breeders are forced to retire, the big guys will probably hold out a little while Mr. Nice, Sensi, etc.

One thing for sure is all the bandwagon followers will jump on GMO cannabis if they can actually make it better than our clone only. Probably going to take a few years anyways.

If we look at the way GMO's "success" went, I doubt anything will come of it in this industry. As much as man would like to think they can fuck with genetics, the results have been dismal. Yields are not there as promised, nor resistance to bugs either. The only thing that was achieved was glyphosate resistance so you could use Roundup.

Well the Roundup days aren't looking too good. Billion dollar settlements and the owner, Bayer, is having their stock value plummet.

If you think that a boy genius like this putz from Phylos is going to organize a better crew to genetically create better varieties than the multinational monsters, I wanna know what he is smoking.

The geniuses couldn't get it right on ANY GMO so far. Zero success! I wouldn't be worried about anything that these guys come up with.

What is interesting is that a number of rats have been brought to the light. Jodrey and the soilking guy seemed to have been in on this from day 1, either that or they are dumber than they look and sound.
 

Rico Swazi

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good post^
all those rats be scurrying to find a buyer for phylos as the shit hits the fan
Syngenta and Biotech Institute LLC are two that come to mind


any doubt that was the plan from the beginning ?
 

CaptainDankness

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Yeah, does seem like it would be hard to genetically modify marijuana to be better than a good mother plant. Not to mention people will still pay more for organic.

The vape cartridges seem to be a bigger problem than someone trying to make GMO seeds, probably be better off doing tissue cultures, I'd buy some dank tissue cultures, though I'd rather buy clones, probably be cheaper anyways.
 

frostqueen

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I was thinking that it's a bit odd for them to plan on selling clones made from tissue culture rather than conventional cuttings. And then it occurred to me that maybe their strategy might be to genetically modify any given strain to not be cloneable. That way they would ensure repeat business and avoid people growing or selling their modified clones via further conventional propagation. Few people do tissue culture, and few would want to do it on a long term basis just to keep a modified strain going. That wouldn't be a big limitation for a huge production facility, though.
 

herbgreen

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I was thinking that it's a bit odd for them to plan on selling clones made from tissue culture rather than conventional cuttings. And then it occurred to me that maybe their strategy might be to genetically modify any given strain to not be cloneable. That way they would ensure repeat business and avoid people growing or selling their modified clones via further conventional propagation. Few people do tissue culture, and few would want to do it on a long term basis just to keep a modified strain going. That wouldn't be a big limitation for a huge production facility, though.



They talked a lot about tissue culture last adam dunn show

...one goal is to make clones that cannot take pollen

Also no doubt clones that are difficult to clone to protect their source material and keep demand up

Sterile clones, patent enforceable GMO cannabis strains, cryogenic micro-propagation storage, and tissue culture

They want to grow it on the moon and eat it raw!


Breeders Rights with Jerry Whiting from LeBlanc and Justin with DSG Labs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmEFO7ssTwk
 

GMT

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I'd suspect in order to make a clone, unclonable, you'd fuck up its ability to grow roots at all. You'd have to grow them with an i.v. drip. Not seen that done outside tiny tissuse culture applications.
 
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Though in the 70's they probably didn't even see weed getting this good.

lol, I hear this a lot.......I was smoking then and I'm still smoking now and I'd rather have one gram of a tropical sativa that was grown in the ground and under the sun than an ounce of just about any modern hybrid that was grown under lights in 8 weeks....why? because it's all about the quality of the high.

Today's bud smells great, tastes great, finishes flowering in 8 weeks not 5 months, yields 3 times more and is stronger but the highs are mostly boring with a short duration...when was the last time you were exhilarated or inspired or delighted and high for 4 hours after smoking a joint of today's bud? When was the last time you had laughed so much that your stomach hurt next day? When was the last time you had a creative thought after smoking today's hybrids?

Most bud nowadays gives a short, strong, boring buzz, I just can't call it a "high", it's more like a "low" as it dumbs down and doesn't uplift.

Just pictures from a cannabis cup way back it all looked like trash

Back in the 70's it was always about the quality of the high, looks or smell never mattered (why would it?)...the only reason I smoke cannabis is to get high. Now days, it's all about looks, smell, flowering duration, yield....the quality of the high is not mentioned most of the time.

I was wrong, I really thought that as soon as the US, California especially became legal then we would see every one growing sativas that take 5 ~ 6 months to complete flowering...but instead all we see is more fatter, faster, stronger, bigger hybrids that have boring, monotone effects.

The high from today's buds is about as good as practicing guitar in your room, the high from a great 70's tropical sativa was like playing a lead guitar solo in front of 10,000 cheering fans...that's the difference, but you can keep smoking your pretty, scented buds and I'll keep smoking my sun grown sativas.
 
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herbgreen

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Though in the 70's they probably didn't even see weed getting this good.

lol, I hear this a lot.......I was smoking then and I'm still smoking now and I'd rather have one gram of a tropical sativa grown that was grown in the ground and under the sun than an ounce of just about any modern hybrid that was grown under lights in 8 weeks....why? because it's all about the quality of the high.

Today's bud smells great, tastes great, finishes flowering in 8 weeks not 5 months, yields 3 times more and is stronger but the highs are mostly boring with a short duration...when was the last time you were exhilarated or inspired or delighted and high for 4 hours after smoking a joint of today's bud? When was the last time you had laughed so much that your stomach hurt next day? When was the last time you had a creative thought after smoking today's hybrids?

Most bud nowadays gives a short, strong, boring buzz, I just can't call it a "high", it's more like a "low" as it dumbs down and doesn't uplift.

Just pictures from a cannabis cup way back it all looked like trash

Back in the 70's it was always about the quality of the high, looks or smell never mattered (why would it?)...the only reason I smoke cannabis is to get high. Now days, it's all about looks, smell, flowering duration, yield....the quality of the high is not mentioned most of the time.

I was wrong, I really thought that as soon as the US, California especially became legal then we would see every one growing sativas that take 5 ~ 6 months to complete flowering...but instead all we see is more fatter, faster, stronger, bigger hybrids that have boring, monotone effects.

The high from today's bus is about as good as practicing guitar in your room, the high from a great 70's tropical sativa was like playing a lead guitar solo in front of 10,000 cheering fans...that's the difference, but you can keep smoking your pretty, scented buds and I'll keep smoking my sun grown sativas.


Oh yeah.......sad but true :biggrin:



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shaggyballs

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I'd suspect in order to make a clone, unclonable, you'd fuck up its ability to grow roots at all. You'd have to grow them with an i.v. drip. Not seen that done outside tiny tissuse culture applications.

Do you think it is possible to get it to change sex or go to autoflower before it roots?

Would there be a viable alternative type of prevention?
 
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Fermented

The high from today's bus

lol. I must be high...get down from the top of the bus Fermented, you know you shouldn't be there!
 
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